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Boyfriend following "Anti feminist" women on Instagram and twitter

158 replies

Applepop · 06/01/2025 18:31

Would that worry you? We've been together 3 and a half years.
He has only just started following/ sending me stuff from these people.

We are supposed to move in together soon and I'm a little concerned about it, it's not Andrew Tate level ( he says he hates him)
I'm not sure if I can put the accounts on here ?

He's never he has never expressed anything misogynistic to me before

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ClapKissBang · 07/01/2025 16:12

DwarfPalmetto · 07/01/2025 16:07

Of course you can change your mind. You can change your mind at any point. Student or not, he is a grown adult and responsible for himself.

It might be better to wait until he has a job, so you can start off on a 50/50 basis.

Are you afraid he will kick off if you say no to him?

Absolutely.

A man who chooses not to work and spends hours on social media is quite frankly a loser.

He needs to contribute if he’s moving in.

TipsyJoker · 07/01/2025 16:12

Applepop · 07/01/2025 15:55

Oh dear I see that a lot of you think moving in together right now it a very bad idea.

Unfortunately I've already said he can so I can't change my mind now and leave him with nowhere to go can I ?

Yes you can. It’s your home you can say you’ve changed your mind. He will just need to find another flat share. That’s life. He’s a grown adult. Either that or he gets a job immediately and agrees to pay half of everything. The fact that he was willing to move into your home and pay nothing speaks volumes about this guys moral compass and character. No self respecting person would move in to another persons home and expect to live there for free. That’s ridiculous.

ClapKissBang · 07/01/2025 16:14

A whole load of nonsense, in particular women supporting men through thick and thin at all costs.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 07/01/2025 16:17

Applepop · 07/01/2025 15:55

Oh dear I see that a lot of you think moving in together right now it a very bad idea.

Unfortunately I've already said he can so I can't change my mind now and leave him with nowhere to go can I ?

This is getting annoying, now.

Okay, you’re right. Let him move in.

ClapKissBang · 07/01/2025 16:19

Here’s the thing - her boyfriend is ridiculous 😂. Look at how he’s manipulated her into allowing him to live with her free of charge. It’s a boy looking to be mothered till he’s secure enough to fly the nest.

pikkumyy77 · 07/01/2025 16:19

OneLemonGuide · 06/01/2025 20:46

Although it might surprise those in the progressive echo-chambers, only about a third of people identify as feminist. It’s seen by many as a toxic term and a facet of “wokeness”. It doesn’t mean he’s
misogynistic… In fact, it’s the knee-jerk presumption of many that anyone who doesn’t identify as feminist must therefore be a misogynist that turns people away from feminism…

So if the idea that he’s not a full-on feminist offends you, and that he dares to engage in content that challenges a feminist agenda, then you’d be doing both of you a favour by dumping him. However, don’t then complain that you’re then only able to attract soy-boys and simps… as the men displaying the masculine traits that we tend to love, tend not to be feminists!

🙄

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 07/01/2025 16:41

Applepop · 07/01/2025 15:55

Oh dear I see that a lot of you think moving in together right now it a very bad idea.

Unfortunately I've already said he can so I can't change my mind now and leave him with nowhere to go can I ?

YES YOU FUCKING CAN.

Applepop · 07/01/2025 17:28

DwarfPalmetto · 07/01/2025 16:07

Of course you can change your mind. You can change your mind at any point. Student or not, he is a grown adult and responsible for himself.

It might be better to wait until he has a job, so you can start off on a 50/50 basis.

Are you afraid he will kick off if you say no to him?

Not that he will kick off, but I know he'll be upset.

He always says he hates when people say they will do something and don't or when people let him down.

I'll talk to him tonight

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ClapKissBang · 07/01/2025 17:35

Applepop · 07/01/2025 17:28

Not that he will kick off, but I know he'll be upset.

He always says he hates when people say they will do something and don't or when people let him down.

I'll talk to him tonight

That’s too bad. He will live.

Send some job adverts his way alongside Twitter accounts of men who believe in providing for their women.

slightlydistrac · 07/01/2025 17:42

Applepop · 07/01/2025 15:55

Oh dear I see that a lot of you think moving in together right now it a very bad idea.

Unfortunately I've already said he can so I can't change my mind now and leave him with nowhere to go can I ?

Of course you can change your mind. If he's in a house share and finishing a course, then he's got until the summer there anyway, surely?

And if he asks why, just tell him that his views and yours do not align when it comes to feminism. Tell him you'll reconsider the matter when he's finished his qualifications and got a job, so he can pay his way. Until then - nah.

Combattingthemoaners · 07/01/2025 17:45

PhilomenaPunk · 07/01/2025 16:11

They are usually pretty, young women who are pandering to fragile male egos and working to undermine and misrepresent what feminism actually is while still enjoying all of the bounties of feminism's work, such as having a career, a bank account, being able to drive, access to maternity healthcare etc etc. It's pathetic and baffling in equal measure.

Thank you. Well explained and I agree, pathetic indeed!

slightlydistrac · 07/01/2025 17:48

Applepop · 07/01/2025 15:54

The Instagram - I don't think is too bad,I just find her really annoying for some reason

Not sure what MGTOW is

I didn't know what it means either, so I googled it and the AI overview is this:

'MGTOW is an anti-feminist, misogynistic, mostly online community that espouses male separatism from what they see as a gynocentric society that has been corrupted by feminism'

Who knew that AI could be so helpfully concise and useful?

ClapKissBang · 07/01/2025 17:51

slightlydistrac · 07/01/2025 17:42

Of course you can change your mind. If he's in a house share and finishing a course, then he's got until the summer there anyway, surely?

And if he asks why, just tell him that his views and yours do not align when it comes to feminism. Tell him you'll reconsider the matter when he's finished his qualifications and got a job, so he can pay his way. Until then - nah.

Indeed! 😂

slightlydistrac · 07/01/2025 17:59

"What on earth is an anti-feminist woman?"

In a nutshell - a twit.

Crikeyalmighty · 07/01/2025 18:11

@PhilomenaPunk can I add in 'usually wanting a flash SAH lifestyle but with good holidays and plenty of spending money on tap in exchange for sex, cleaning and cooking - not usually interested in the average gamer bloke on modest money who needs his partner to work - '. often the kind of guy that buys into this shit too

Bumblebeestiltskin · 07/01/2025 18:14

Applepop · 07/01/2025 15:55

Oh dear I see that a lot of you think moving in together right now it a very bad idea.

Unfortunately I've already said he can so I can't change my mind now and leave him with nowhere to go can I ?

You absolutely can. If it were me, I'd be ending the relationship, not just stopping him from moving in. But I don't date anyone with even the slightest whiff of misogyny about them.

pikkumyy77 · 07/01/2025 18:38

Applepop · 07/01/2025 17:28

Not that he will kick off, but I know he'll be upset.

He always says he hates when people say they will do something and don't or when people let him down.

I'll talk to him tonight

So what? Maybe you’ve had s good think about it and you hate people who freeload off you and then send passive aggressive instagram links whining about how tough it is to be a man.

category12 · 07/01/2025 19:10

Applepop · 07/01/2025 17:28

Not that he will kick off, but I know he'll be upset.

He always says he hates when people say they will do something and don't or when people let him down.

I'll talk to him tonight

Of course it will probably shock and upset him if you withdraw the offer, but you mustn't do the wrong thing for yourself just to avoid difficult conversations. You need to have boundaries and not people-please to your own detriment.

If you still want him to move in and think you have a bright future together (despite the weird alarm-bell-ringing antiwoman stuff), then tell him he'll need to pay his half of the bills out of his loans.

If he's half-decent, he will want to pay his way.

If he's just moving in for convenience (his) and to save money, he'll not be keen.

anonymous98 · 07/01/2025 19:22

Leave.

OhBling · 07/01/2025 19:40

@applepop you have agreed you will continue to pay most of the bills.... is he planning yo contribute the same as what he is paying currently?

XChrome · 07/01/2025 19:44

OneLemonGuide · 07/01/2025 08:32

In which case, feminism’s work is done, at least in the UK (though it definitely isn’t in many places in the world!).

However, those who promote feminism today in the West often don’t seem to be advocating for “equality” anymore, at least in terms of equality of opportunity and rights (which is something most people, including myself, overwhelmingly support).

Rather they are advocating “equivalence”, where the aim is for men and women to be essentially indistinguishable in all aspects of life except perhaps in how they identify, but where feminine traits are promoted and masculine traits are frowned upon… with the result that men are only accepted if they adopt feminised characteristics, but shunned if they adopt masculine ones (hence my use of the terms simps and soy-boys which I accept was rather provocative and now regret using).

This is a trend many,many women, as well as men, don’t like, and why only a 1/3 or is of people identify themselves as feminists.

This is completely devoid of fact. It is merely your fantasized version of what feminists stand for.

The reality is that there are no "masculine" or "feminine" personality traits. Some personality traits can be destructive and yes, many of them do tend to appear more in men, but they appear in women as well. Excessive aggression, for example, is destructive no matter what sex you are. There are certainly some quite aggressive women out there. There are fewer of them because of social conditioning and because women are smaller and more liable than men to get hurt if they act aggressively. Nobody encourages men to take on traditional toxic "feminine" characteristics like being gossipy mean girls anymore than people encourage women to become more physically aggressive. The bottom line is that some traits are inherently anti-social and should be discouraged.

XChrome · 07/01/2025 19:50

Applepop · 07/01/2025 15:55

Oh dear I see that a lot of you think moving in together right now it a very bad idea.

Unfortunately I've already said he can so I can't change my mind now and leave him with nowhere to go can I ?

It's not your problem. You aren't his mommy or his wife, you are just somebody he has been dating. You do not owe him that kind of commitment and you have every right to change your mind because you have misgivings. He should just get a job and his own place. Please let us know how it goes.

XChrome · 07/01/2025 19:54

OneLemonGuide · 07/01/2025 09:04

Although feminists often say that they only want “equality”, which is what most people agree with, including myself… in actual fact what they tend to be advocating for is “feminised equivalence”, and that’s something many people, men and women, don’t want.

Again, not a fact at all. This is just your perception, which is skewed by your own feelings.
Try not to call your totally subjective beliefs facts. You may want to revisit the definition of the word fact.

labamba007 · 07/01/2025 19:54

Oh does that mean he pays for everything then? Buys you a house (of course you're on the deeds though) and he can work and pay for everything you need?

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/01/2025 20:13

OneLemonGuide · Today 08:32

In which case, feminism’s work is done, at least in the UK (though it definitely isn’t in many places in the world!).

However, those who promote feminism today in the West often don’t seem to be advocating for “equality” anymore, at least in terms of equality of opportunity and rights (which is something most people, including myself, overwhelmingly support).

Rather they are advocating “equivalence”, where the aim is for men and women to be essentially indistinguishable in all aspects of life except perhaps in how they identify, but where feminine traits are promoted and masculine traits are frowned upon… with the result that men are only accepted if they adopt feminised characteristics, but shunned if they adopt masculine ones (hence my use of the terms simps and soy-boys which I accept was rather provocative and now regret using).

This is a trend many,many women, as well as men, don’t like, and why only a 1/3 or is of people identify themselves as feminists.

Can you give examples of this, @OneLemonguide ? Which 'feminised characteristics' are men being asked to adopt? What are women asking for that's beyond equality? What do you mean by equivalence (other than equivalence of opportunity and rights, which presumably you agree with)?