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Is it that much of a turn-off when a man never had a GF?

254 replies

SharpMember · 27/12/2024 18:27

The only sex I ever had was what I paid for at age 30 after trying to get it the normal way all my life. I paid for it until I was like 34 but after that age it’s been the same as it was in my 20s. I am 39 now and still single simply because I lack experience in real relationships.

should I give up?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/12/2024 19:54

A punter and a liar?

What's not to like?

Mom2K · 28/12/2024 19:56

It's not your lack of relationship history that is causing women to have an aversion to you. It's the following:

  1. You're the type of man to have paid for sex.
  2. You don't understand why paying for sex is wrong.
  3. You clearly think a male boss who only promotes women who will sleep with him is fine...and have used this example to justify your use of prostitutes.
  4. If you think what your boss is doing is ok and that this was a good example to use, then you're not too bright.
  5. You're a liar- you've admitted that you would lie if any future partner outright asked if you've ever paid for sex.

If this is your mentality, then women are probably picking up on the vibe you give off.

There isn't anything you've said that would indicate that you'd be a good partner who is willing to build a relationship on a foundation of trust and mutual respect, or that you have a healthy view of women, so you should probably stay single unless you get some therapy to change your thoughts/views.

AdviceAdvice123 · 28/12/2024 20:02

OP you haven’t answered any of the questions that aren’t about sex.

If you have a shred of self-awareness, you’ll find your answer in this.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:09

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:15

What have you actually done to meet women?

Have you gone to social clubs, sports groups, conservation groups and got to know them over many months possibly years?

Have you made an effort with your looks, personal hygiene and general physical 'package'. Doesn't have to be Brad Pitt but need to be clean and well maintained.

Have you made an effort on career and where you live? Don't have to be wealthy but do have yo be a little ambitious and able to bring something to the table.

What do you bring to the table in that case? Why should a woman chose you rather than the next bloke she meets? Treat it like a job interview and sell yourself and make yourself attractive and worth investing time in to.

Done all that. I make 100k now, I take care of myself, and I go to clubs and stuff regularly.

i used to try my luck at bars but stopped when I hit 30

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baroqueandblue · 28/12/2024 20:14

@SharpMember What (other than sexual fulfillment) are your goals for a relationship with a woman, if you could find a woman who wanted to be in a relationship with you?

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 20:14

Right, so if that is true then it is something about you.

Your body language
Your choice of conversation and language you use
The type of women you are aiming for being too young.
I don't think looks come into it too much as there is someone for everyone but any particular physical issues could make things worse or mean it takes longer.

Not having a relationship doesn't even come into it, you just say "I've been focusing on my career and now I'm ready to focus on other parts of my life" when you get into the bedroom it's "it's been a while", deflect and brush over it to start it's really a non issue.

Bars aren't a good place to pick women up (what a hideous phrase), again that means you are looking for vulnerable, inebriated women - that is not ok.

TomatoSandwiches · 28/12/2024 20:15

If women don't want you there's usually a very good reason for it, something inate about you turns them off.
All you can do is work on yourself and your appalling attitude and sense of entitlement, but even then the majority of self respecting women wouldn't touch a man that has used a sex worker, some of us would even consider you a rapist.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:18

TomatoSandwiches · 28/12/2024 20:15

If women don't want you there's usually a very good reason for it, something inate about you turns them off.
All you can do is work on yourself and your appalling attitude and sense of entitlement, but even then the majority of self respecting women wouldn't touch a man that has used a sex worker, some of us would even consider you a rapist.

What if I said I lied about paying for it?

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SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:20

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 20:14

Right, so if that is true then it is something about you.

Your body language
Your choice of conversation and language you use
The type of women you are aiming for being too young.
I don't think looks come into it too much as there is someone for everyone but any particular physical issues could make things worse or mean it takes longer.

Not having a relationship doesn't even come into it, you just say "I've been focusing on my career and now I'm ready to focus on other parts of my life" when you get into the bedroom it's "it's been a while", deflect and brush over it to start it's really a non issue.

Bars aren't a good place to pick women up (what a hideous phrase), again that means you are looking for vulnerable, inebriated women - that is not ok.

Edited

I promise I don’t go for women more than 5 years my junior.

Sometimes a woman looks older than she is, but that’s different

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CheekyHobson · 28/12/2024 20:22

Didn’t take long for it to become obvious why women get the ick with you. I’ve got it already.

safetyfreak · 28/12/2024 20:22

SharpMember · 27/12/2024 22:56

It’s only because all other avenues failed (besides going for women I’m not attracted to and making it up)

So basically, you rather pay for sex then pursue women are more in your league?

This is it right? otherwise why are you having such a hard time finding a romantic partner.

JHound · 28/12/2024 20:22

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:20

I promise I don’t go for women more than 5 years my junior.

Sometimes a woman looks older than she is, but that’s different

Assuming you are not a troll the fact you think it’s fine for you boss to make promotion decision based on a woman’s willingness to have sex with him says a lot about you and your character.
Maybe that’s what women are picking up on.

SmileEachDay · 28/12/2024 20:22

This poster is on the wind up.

Unicorntearsofgin · 28/12/2024 20:23

But you need to think more about what you bring besides the physical. What are your interests? Can you work on friendships with women based on respect rather than attraction.

I also wonder if you are going for women based purely on looks as opposed to having anything in common with them.

baroqueandblue · 28/12/2024 20:23

Did you lie in this thread about paying a woman for sex? If so, what made you feel like you had to lie OP?

RupertCampbellBlacksEgo · 28/12/2024 20:23

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:59

Why is everyone here against paying for sex. How else is a late virgin supposed to learn when women his age don’t want them?

You cannot pay for consent. Coerced consent is not consent.
Leave women alone.

Asterales · 28/12/2024 20:27

@TomatoSandwiches I'm glad you said it! I'd 100% consider a man who paid for sex a rapist, no two ways about it.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:33

CheekyHobson · 28/12/2024 20:22

Didn’t take long for it to become obvious why women get the ick with you. I’ve got it already.

This woman I mentioned, I loved her and still do. Not because she was beautiful but because of her loyalty. She always responded to calls/texts fast. She was genuinely interested in me, she picked me up when I was down and I promised to do the same for her. I could almost be myself around her. She truly was one of a kind.

she turned me down for inexperience. I still love her to this day.

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baroqueandblue · 28/12/2024 20:36

she turned me down for inexperience.

If that's the case, your thinking around that rejection - "I need to pay for experience because then she'll want to be with me" - was sadly very faulty.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:37

baroqueandblue · 28/12/2024 20:36

she turned me down for inexperience.

If that's the case, your thinking around that rejection - "I need to pay for experience because then she'll want to be with me" - was sadly very faulty.

Is it at least obvious I genuinely loved her?

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SmileEachDay · 28/12/2024 20:38

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:59

Why is everyone here against paying for sex. How else is a late virgin supposed to learn when women his age don’t want them?

I’m against paying for sex because I don’t believe consent can be bought.

Women don’t owe you the chance to “learn”.

ChewieChewieChewie · 28/12/2024 20:41

So, on top of all the rest, you now say you're in love with a friend? Being in love with someone else is not a great trait in a potential partner....

baroqueandblue · 28/12/2024 20:41

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:37

Is it at least obvious I genuinely loved her?

Perhaps it's obvious you felt very strongly about her, but your wider attitude to women suggests some of your feelings aren't helpful - to you, and certainly not to them.

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 20:43

She used inexperienced as an excuse, you sound insecure, needy and infatuated - none of those things are attractive to women.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 20:45

baroqueandblue · 28/12/2024 20:41

Perhaps it's obvious you felt very strongly about her, but your wider attitude to women suggests some of your feelings aren't helpful - to you, and certainly not to them.

Well people here said I only loved her because my “loins” told me to

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