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Is it that much of a turn-off when a man never had a GF?

254 replies

SharpMember · 27/12/2024 18:27

The only sex I ever had was what I paid for at age 30 after trying to get it the normal way all my life. I paid for it until I was like 34 but after that age it’s been the same as it was in my 20s. I am 39 now and still single simply because I lack experience in real relationships.

should I give up?

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DatingDinosaur · 28/12/2024 18:44

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:30

I knew her for 23 years and I still care for her. Even now

But yet you bang on about sex. That's not caring. That's lust.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:44

LilacRaven · 28/12/2024 18:41

How does that make it ok or any better?

Doesn't make a difference if you are god's gift to women or a virgin. Paying for sex is paying for sex.

Paying for it taught me what to do.

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LilacRaven · 28/12/2024 18:44

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:27

Why tell? It’s a secret I wish to take to the grave.

Everyone has things they’d rather not share.

If you ever have a long term relationship it's likely to come up in conversation and you will be asked questions along the lines of have you been to a strip club or used a sex worker. So would you lie when asked directly?

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:45

DatingDinosaur · 28/12/2024 18:44

But yet you bang on about sex. That's not caring. That's lust.

No, I wanted her near me, I wanted to spend as much time with her as I could, take her places. I really cared for her.

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AuContraire · 28/12/2024 18:45

SharpMember · 27/12/2024 22:56

It’s only because all other avenues failed (besides going for women I’m not attracted to and making it up)

Urgh.

Very few women will want a relationship with a man who thinks this way about sex, relationships and women.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:48

LilacRaven · 28/12/2024 18:44

If you ever have a long term relationship it's likely to come up in conversation and you will be asked questions along the lines of have you been to a strip club or used a sex worker. So would you lie when asked directly?

Yes I’d lie. Because it wouldn’t matter at that point.

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Purgepossessions2025 · 28/12/2024 18:50

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:44

Paying for it taught me what to do.

Obviously not!

Purgepossessions2025 · 28/12/2024 18:51

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:48

Yes I’d lie. Because it wouldn’t matter at that point.

Edited

She’ll know. She’ll know.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:52

Purgepossessions2025 · 28/12/2024 18:51

She’ll know. She’ll know.

How would she know? Can’t read minds

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Purgepossessions2025 · 28/12/2024 18:53

She knows. She knows.

LilacRaven · 28/12/2024 18:58

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:48

Yes I’d lie. Because it wouldn’t matter at that point.

Edited

No you'd lie so that you wouldn't have to worry about the fact she might leave you. It would still matter to a women at that point

Also the fact you think paying for sex has taught you how to do it is depressing. You need an honest trusting relationship for that and based on your posts you don't deserve one

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:59

Purgepossessions2025 · 28/12/2024 18:53

She knows. She knows.

Edited

Why is everyone here against paying for sex. How else is a late virgin supposed to learn when women his age don’t want them?

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LilacRaven · 28/12/2024 19:01

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:59

Why is everyone here against paying for sex. How else is a late virgin supposed to learn when women his age don’t want them?

You don't

It's your entitlement to sex that is the ick.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 19:02

LilacRaven · 28/12/2024 18:58

No you'd lie so that you wouldn't have to worry about the fact she might leave you. It would still matter to a women at that point

Also the fact you think paying for sex has taught you how to do it is depressing. You need an honest trusting relationship for that and based on your posts you don't deserve one

Plenty of people lie to their partners.

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SharpMember · 28/12/2024 19:02

LilacRaven · 28/12/2024 19:01

You don't

It's your entitlement to sex that is the ick.

I don’t? Don’t what

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SporadicMincePieMuncher · 28/12/2024 19:03

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:59

Why is everyone here against paying for sex. How else is a late virgin supposed to learn when women his age don’t want them?

What good has it actually ever done you, apart from one orgasm? You can't get a woman to do anything with!

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:03

You don't, you are not entitled to sex. It is not a human right. If you can't find someone who wants to have sex with you then you don't pay them for it.

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:05

With your attitude to women and sex you aren't going to get a partner. Best get yourself a dog for some companionship and write yourself off untill you can see women as more than a vagina on legs.

DatingDinosaur · 28/12/2024 19:05

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 18:45

No, I wanted her near me, I wanted to spend as much time with her as I could, take her places. I really cared for her.

So why are you assuming she wasn't interested because you are sexually inexperienced? Did she tell you that? Or is that how you're justifying her lack of interest in you in the way you're interested in her?

We all, every single one of us, go through life at some point fancying someone who doesn't fancy us back, quite often several times. It has nothing to do with sexual experience. The right woman for you won't have a problem with your lack of experience. The right woman for you will ignite more in you than just lust and will feel the same about you.

All the others that don't work out are passing through your life to teach you what it is you do and don't want.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 19:06

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:03

You don't, you are not entitled to sex. It is not a human right. If you can't find someone who wants to have sex with you then you don't pay them for it.

Don’t what?

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SporadicMincePieMuncher · 28/12/2024 19:07

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 19:02

Plenty of people lie to their partners.

And you can't see why women don't think you're a catch.

FYI, one session with a coerced, likely trafficked and abused woman does not make you in any way a decent lover. AT ALL. like on a scale of 1 to 10 you're at minus 20 because you clearly don't understand a single thing about women. You wasted your money.

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:08

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 19:06

Don’t what?

"Why is everyone here against paying for sex. How else is a late virgin supposed to learn when women his age don’t want them"

You don't get to learn about having sex. You are not entitled to sex. It is not a human right. If you can't find someone who wants to have sex with you willingly then the correct option for anyone with self respect is not to force a vulnerable woman by paying them.

SharpMember · 28/12/2024 19:09

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 28/12/2024 19:07

And you can't see why women don't think you're a catch.

FYI, one session with a coerced, likely trafficked and abused woman does not make you in any way a decent lover. AT ALL. like on a scale of 1 to 10 you're at minus 20 because you clearly don't understand a single thing about women. You wasted your money.

My boss make seven figures. He promotes women who sleep with him. What i did isn’t so different.

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SharpMember · 28/12/2024 19:10

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:08

"Why is everyone here against paying for sex. How else is a late virgin supposed to learn when women his age don’t want them"

You don't get to learn about having sex. You are not entitled to sex. It is not a human right. If you can't find someone who wants to have sex with you willingly then the correct option for anyone with self respect is not to force a vulnerable woman by paying them.

Okay, then how should’ve I found someone at that point?

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HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:11

You really are quite disgusting, real incel vibes

Women who sleep with your boss do so willingly, he isn't forcing them. They may be doing it for financial gain or maybe he is just dynamite in bed and worth it.