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Guy asked me my religion within 15 mins of first date! Bin him?

306 replies

LaBrasseria2024 · 22/12/2024 23:49

Hi all,

Dipped my toe in OLD about a year ago. It's been a year lol. 32 female.

I went on a date with a guy a few weeks back.

Perhaps my post would be better in Craicnet (I'm N.I)

The guy asked me within 15 mins of the date if I was a particular religion ( his religion) obviously hoping that I was.

I just think it's a bit rude and a touchy subject in N.I, especially one a first date.

I wouldn't dream of asking someone this as I don't feel it's appropriate and it doesn't matter to me. I wasn't brought up like that!

I brushed it under the carpet as I wouldn't want an argument on the first date. Apart from that we got on and I found other things he said very funny.

We have texted quite a bit since, second date arranged, but I had to cancel due to being sick.

But it has played on my mind he felt it okay to ask me this. He is a 35 year old man and should know better, ffs!

Am I being oversensitive? Or should I throw this one back?

OP posts:
ForFunAmberDeer · 23/12/2024 11:17

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:01

Hmmmm a lot of insidious sectarianism in your post there sorry

I'm aware there are folks who would not be prejudiced against protestants - who are involved in GAA; but I'm afraid my experience in my twenties was that those young men whose families who were heavily involved in GAA were republican leaning (understatement), and not remotely open minded about relationships or potential marriages with protestants, quite the opposite.

One expressed extreme surprise that I, a protestant, would know a Gaelic football player he knew ...and with a baffled look on his face, said "how would you know O B??". He then expressed his incredulity that I'd ever have encountered, let alone socialised with him.

There are some views - among some people - who are involved in Gaelic sports, that are exclusionary and "we stick to our own". I've experienced it first hand.

(Of course there are similar people on the Unionist side).

Also way back the GAA was founded to promote Irish nationalism (I have a degree in mostly Irish history) ... . and is still occasionally involved in funerals etc. of republican figures (and not political figures, terrorist organisation figures).

Edited

The only funerals the GAA are involved in are those of GAA members? Again it's v sectarian to drawn a conclusion that the GAA is sectarian because individual members have been members of proscribed organisations too. You can't even see there is a problem with doing so.
The GAA was founded out of the Gaelic Revival, which as you will know was a cross community movement and indeed flourished under the patronage of the distinctly non Catholic Anglo-Irish Ascendancy. Your statement that it was founded to promote nationalism again betrays a viewpoint that is mired in sectarianism. The GAA was founded to promote the playing of gaellc games and restore a sense of dignity to the Irish people whose country had been ravaged by famine and emigration. That is it's primary purpose.

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:47

Your statement that it was founded to promote nationalism again betrays a viewpoint that is mired in sectarianism. The GAA was founded to promote the playing of gaellc games and restore a sense of dignity to the Irish people whose country had been ravaged by famine and emigration. That is it's primary purpose.

No sectarianism whatsoever.

Just A level Irish history, followed by a degree in mostly Irish history.

ForFunAmberDeer · 23/12/2024 11:52

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:47

Your statement that it was founded to promote nationalism again betrays a viewpoint that is mired in sectarianism. The GAA was founded to promote the playing of gaellc games and restore a sense of dignity to the Irish people whose country had been ravaged by famine and emigration. That is it's primary purpose.

No sectarianism whatsoever.

Just A level Irish history, followed by a degree in mostly Irish history.

There's that nice MC sectarianism that doesn't exist. Not sure why you keep telling me you have a degree in Irish history, what I've said is historically accurate

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:52

The only funerals the GAA are involved in e those of GAA members?

There was a huge furore a few years back about banners and involvement with a republican terrorist commemoration.

I'm getting a little bit sick of your repeated attacks, calling me sectarian.

Not going to spend time finding evidence to counter your claims.

It's a thread derail anyway. Hopefully the op has had some useful perspectives.

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:53

ForFunAmberDeer · 23/12/2024 11:52

There's that nice MC sectarianism that doesn't exist. Not sure why you keep telling me you have a degree in Irish history, what I've said is historically accurate

It's not. That's why I keep telling you I've studied this subject.

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:55

ForFunAmberDeer · 23/12/2024 11:52

There's that nice MC sectarianism that doesn't exist. Not sure why you keep telling me you have a degree in Irish history, what I've said is historically accurate

You don't even know my background - class, religion, community, history.

Agree to disagree, as you proposed in a previous post.

I won't be responding further.

ForFunAmberDeer · 23/12/2024 11:55

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:53

It's not. That's why I keep telling you I've studied this subject.

Tell me what's inaccurate about what I have said. Historically.

ForFunAmberDeer · 23/12/2024 12:05

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:52

The only funerals the GAA are involved in e those of GAA members?

There was a huge furore a few years back about banners and involvement with a republican terrorist commemoration.

I'm getting a little bit sick of your repeated attacks, calling me sectarian.

Not going to spend time finding evidence to counter your claims.

It's a thread derail anyway. Hopefully the op has had some useful perspectives.

Edited

? You should examine your views. If the GAA re involved in a funeral it's because the deceased was a member. You jumping to a conclusion about what the organisation and it's membership endorses as a result is sectarian.

Incompleteshock · 23/12/2024 12:07

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 11:01

Hmmmm a lot of insidious sectarianism in your post there sorry

I'm aware there are folks who would not be prejudiced against protestants - who are involved in GAA; but I'm afraid my experience in my twenties was that those young men whose families who were heavily involved in GAA were republican leaning (understatement), and not remotely open minded about relationships or potential marriages with protestants, quite the opposite.

One expressed extreme surprise that I, a protestant, would know a Gaelic football player he knew ...and with a baffled look on his face, said "how would you know O B??". He then expressed his incredulity that I'd ever have encountered, let alone socialised with him.

There are some views - among some people - who are involved in Gaelic sports, that are exclusionary and "we stick to our own". I've experienced it first hand.

(Of course there are similar people on the Unionist side).

Also way back the GAA was founded to promote Irish nationalism (I have a degree in mostly Irish history) ... . and is still occasionally involved in funerals etc. of republican figures (and not political figures, terrorist organisation figures).

Edited

What a load of bull

GlassLampshades · 23/12/2024 13:18

Hwi · 23/12/2024 01:09

If you are from NI, surely you know just by your first name, never mind the surname? A NI university mate taught me about the significance of recognising even first names as belonging to either this or that religion.

No there are plenty of names, mine included, that can be either side. People often assume my religion wrongly based on my name and where I live, so I'm quite used to signalling early on what my background is.

LaBrasseria2024 · 23/12/2024 13:22

@LimeLimeLime - yes! You summed it up perfectly and much better how I was trying to

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LaBrasseria2024 · 23/12/2024 13:23

@AnneButNotHathaway - it has nothing to do about core values. Can you not read! It's to do with being a bigot

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LaBrasseria2024 · 23/12/2024 13:26

@StrawberryDream24 - when I say we are same religion. I mean both 'Christian' but not the same denomination.

But yea, he clearly isn't religious at all, yet couldn't resist a joke 'dig' about my area and to see which 'side' I am on.

I don't actually think our drinks had even been brought to the table by the time he asked me.

It just bugs me because it's so rude

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EBearhug · 23/12/2024 13:35

If it bugs you so much - don't see him again. It might be bugging you because of the NI context, but that doesn't really matter - it could have been the wave he flicked his hair back or something. If something bothers you a lot on a date, don't see him again.

LaBrasseria2024 · 23/12/2024 13:36

@EBearhug - it bugs me due to the sectarianism! Much worse than an innocuous hair flick

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Brainstorm23 · 23/12/2024 13:41

GlassLampshades · 23/12/2024 13:18

No there are plenty of names, mine included, that can be either side. People often assume my religion wrongly based on my name and where I live, so I'm quite used to signalling early on what my background is.

When I moved into my house (in East Belfast) I went to introduce myself to the neighbours. I said "Hi..I'm X". Their eyes narrowed and they said "What's your surname?" 😀

These are lovely old folks who buy my daughter presents every year even though we've moved but it still mattered to them.

EBearhug · 23/12/2024 13:42

But still, the point of dating is to find out if there are things about your date you couldn't live with, whatever it is, and it sounds like you have fou nd that.

LaBrasseria2024 · 23/12/2024 14:09

@StrawberryDream24 - I pm'd you!

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EvelynBeatrice · 23/12/2024 14:27

I understand your concern - but English posters (unlike those from NI or parts of Scotland) are unlikely to understand the nuance.

AreWeThereYet69 · 23/12/2024 14:38

Most of the people commenting clearly aren't from NI and are unaware of the significance of that question. OP has stated its not an issue for her but it would appear it is for him if he asked.
I'd bin him

TouchoftheTism · 23/12/2024 14:51

Biggity biggity bong so it is.

shuggles · 23/12/2024 18:33

@Toenailz Then you're a bit of a daftie and need a bit more life experience.

I have enough life experience to know that there are no black and whites, only differing shades of grey. Just because someone does not share the same opinions as me or you does not mean they are a bad person.

I have met some horrendous people who are full of hatred that share many of my political perspectives, and compassionate and caring people who share few of my perspectives. And vice versa.

Having life experience is understanding that a person's underlying values and character are far more important than surface-level political leanings.

H112 · 24/12/2024 08:16

Jaysus you're in NI so you're Irish don't mind him!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 24/12/2024 09:25

H112 · 24/12/2024 08:16

Jaysus you're in NI so you're Irish don't mind him!

Not everyone in NI is Irish.

ForFunAmberDeer · 24/12/2024 11:38

OchonAgusOchonOh · 24/12/2024 09:25

Not everyone in NI is Irish.

Every single person born in ni is irish, some might identify as British, like a Scottish or Welsh person might, but by dint of being born there they are Irish as in born in Ireland. They may chose to identify as British but by birth if you are born in Ireland north or south you are Irish., like British person born in Glasgow is also Scottish

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