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Child hates me having a girlfriend

942 replies

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 03:44

Hi. I'm a man reaching out for advice from a female perspective so please be gentle.

I am divorced and currently have sole custody of my teen daughter. I am 50 and have been seeing a lovely woman who is 38 for sometime. We get on great, however and understandably she is at an age where she would like to have children sooner than later. I am happy with this, I am a young 50 and very healthy for my age and a great Dad.

My daughter is already finding it hard for me to have a girlfriend and has stated that she doesn't want to meet her, let alone her living with me and the idea of me having another child and sibling would flip her out greatly. She's been crying a lot just me seeing someone and I feel awful.

I understand all of this as I'm all she has, her relationship with her Mum isn't good and they rarely see each other. I'm torn, as I definitely don't want to damage her or our relationship either, but also don't want to lose my girlfriend. In five years my daughter will be an adult and I don't want to be on my own so have had to be slightly selfish by seeing someone to begin with. It'll only get harder over time otherwise.

My child means everything to me and is not being capricious, merely I'm all she has and I think she can't bear me giving my love to someone else or losing me.

Any advice would be appreciated.

OP posts:
Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:02

Newgirls · 18/11/2024 15:58

I’m fascinated by the idea that a 50 year old looks young. I’m in that age band. There is a huge range of fitness, weight, hair loss and energy in men (and women) of that age, yes. But do they look like 40 year olds? No.

I know two men who had babies in their 50s and they aged fast. Broken nights etc are brutal.

OP if you manage to be fit sexy and healthy til you are 65 you are a rare beast and your ‘baby’ would still only be a young teenager. It isn’t worth it.

Edited

In my experience most people look like they're in a certain age group ie late 20-early 30s rather than an exact age and if someone guesses them at the lower end they get overexcited and think they look 12.

Elizo · 18/11/2024 16:06

I don’t agree with people saying don’t do this, your life matters too. Also many children find round. I think the key is getting to the root of her insecurity and finding ways to reassure her. She needs to meet your GF asap so they can start forging a relationship. You have to push on with this, while keeping her at the centre of your world.

MorettiForMargo · 18/11/2024 16:12

Elizo · 18/11/2024 16:06

I don’t agree with people saying don’t do this, your life matters too. Also many children find round. I think the key is getting to the root of her insecurity and finding ways to reassure her. She needs to meet your GF asap so they can start forging a relationship. You have to push on with this, while keeping her at the centre of your world.

You don't think the "root of her insecurity" is being abandoned by her mother earlier this year, her father wanting to have a baby with a younger woman who he's only dated for six months and him claiming he is housebound because of her despite dating, going to the gym daily and fobbing her off on her grandparents at weekends?

Her mother's barely out the door. I genuinely don't think starting a brand new family with an unknown entity would make a 12/13 year feel anything but insecure. It's textbook abandonment by two parents.

Keepingitreal9 · 18/11/2024 16:13

Newgirls · 18/11/2024 15:58

I’m fascinated by the idea that a 50 year old looks young. I’m in that age band. There is a huge range of fitness, weight, hair loss and energy in men (and women) of that age, yes. But do they look like 40 year olds? No.

I know two men who had babies in their 50s and they aged fast. Broken nights etc are brutal.

OP if you manage to be fit sexy and healthy til you are 65 you are a rare beast and your ‘baby’ would still only be a young teenager. It isn’t worth it.

Edited

Sorry but this is nonsense.My DH was an extremely young looking 50 yr old & dare I say it so was I. Look at Kylie Minogue fast approaching 60 & could be half her age in looks & physicality. There are people who age well due to a combination of looking after themselves & genetics. The opposite is also true. If OP says he is fit & healthy,feels a lot younger & would be happy to have another child he should go ahead.

Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:15

Keepingitreal9 · 18/11/2024 16:13

Sorry but this is nonsense.My DH was an extremely young looking 50 yr old & dare I say it so was I. Look at Kylie Minogue fast approaching 60 & could be half her age in looks & physicality. There are people who age well due to a combination of looking after themselves & genetics. The opposite is also true. If OP says he is fit & healthy,feels a lot younger & would be happy to have another child he should go ahead.

Yeah he should go for it! Fuck his daughter!

Marabousfy · 18/11/2024 16:17

‘You don't think the "root of her insecurity" is being abandoned by her mother earlier this year, her father wanting to have a baby with a younger woman who he's only dated for six months and him claiming he is housebound because of her despite dating, going to the gym daily and fobbing her off on her grandparents at weekends?’

this and then some! Insecure is she? Hardly a mystery!!!

TwistedWonder · 18/11/2024 16:18

Keepingitreal9 · 18/11/2024 16:13

Sorry but this is nonsense.My DH was an extremely young looking 50 yr old & dare I say it so was I. Look at Kylie Minogue fast approaching 60 & could be half her age in looks & physicality. There are people who age well due to a combination of looking after themselves & genetics. The opposite is also true. If OP says he is fit & healthy,feels a lot younger & would be happy to have another child he should go ahead.

Oh come on. Kylie looks great for a woman in her 50’s but she looks like a well kept mature woman and definitely can’t pass for half her age.

Keepingitreal9 · 18/11/2024 16:19

Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:15

Yeah he should go for it! Fuck his daughter!

As if he would do that. Is this what people feel about blended families? They've all said F.... my children?

Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:21

Keepingitreal9 · 18/11/2024 16:19

As if he would do that. Is this what people feel about blended families? They've all said F.... my children?

Most of the time yes. And certainly in OP's case. He's barely known this woman five minutes and all his replies are Me Me Me Me Me.

Newgirls · 18/11/2024 16:24

I feel for kylie being dragged into this!

she looks amazing yes but we are deluding ourselves if we think we look substantially younger than we are. I bet a random 25 year old walking past would think ‘yep he’s 50’

Bigcat25 · 18/11/2024 16:24

Keepingitreal9 · 18/11/2024 16:19

As if he would do that. Is this what people feel about blended families? They've all said F.... my children?

His daughter has been abandoned by her mother, so it doesn't compare to situations where both parents have good relationships. He also met this woman what sounds like weeks after the break up.

80s · 18/11/2024 16:26

I know a very fit guy (tree surgeon!) who I presumed was about 42 and he's just told me he's 50. Would never have guessed.
My dad, who had had his son at 46, has always been very fit too; still goes hiking in his late 80s. But his son was not happy about having such old parents, and thinks that it affected him negatively in various ways. It was not so much their physical abilities, more them not being into the latest music/technology/lifestyle and bringing him up to be very innocent and young for his age. And an only child of course.

Keepingitreal9 · 18/11/2024 16:29

TwistedWonder · 18/11/2024 16:18

Oh come on. Kylie looks great for a woman in her 50’s but she looks like a well kept mature woman and definitely can’t pass for half her age.

Edited

OK admittedly a slight exageration but the point was referring to the poster who insinuated people never look younger than their age. I gave an example & there are many the same,both women & men.

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/11/2024 16:31

Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:21

Most of the time yes. And certainly in OP's case. He's barely known this woman five minutes and all his replies are Me Me Me Me Me.

@Pusheen467

so you’re saying that anyone with kids who enters into another relationship and lives with their partner is selfish?! WOW!

CheekyHobson · 18/11/2024 16:32

How did I know that this guy was going to turn out to have rushed into a new relationship while his daughter was still reeling from her parents separating and her mum abandoning her?

And is now having all kinds of a self-pity party because his daughter won’t instantly accept the idea of a new girlfriend (please god don’t let him have mentioned the possibility of a new sibling in all his “transparency” aka inappropriate information-sharing).

@HopperDash I was in a loveless and emotionally abusive relationship for years before I was able to leave, OP. But I’ve chosen to put my children first. I started seeing someone a year on from the separation, and a year on from that I’m just getting ready to let the kids know I’m dating. I can imagine it will be a slow path to introduction as my daughter especially is still struggling with the repercussions of separation.

You’ve really rushed things, and seem to have a sense of entitlement to do so, driven by irrational fears that this is your “last chance”. I’m seeing a lot of hyperbole and self-pity in your posts as justification (believe me, you do not have it harder than a lot of single mums) and that suggests you know at some level that you’re not behaving well and are defensive about it.

I should add that I also had the same age gap and timing with my children (my ex was 48/50 when our kids were born) and I’m afraid that him seeming young and energetic then hasn’t lasted. At 62, with tweens, he has all kinds of medical concerns, injuries and far lower energy than I do. Time catches up quickly and he’s not having fun being a (very part time) single dad these days. Turns out he relied (and still does) on me to do most of the heavy lifting of parenting. How do you think you’re going to manage when you already have another child with very different needs to care for?

I think you have rushed into this relationship out of fear and neediness and that’s not a good foundation. You’re also considering pretty irrational options, like having a baby with someone you barely know, for the same reasons, fear and neediness. I would suggest some therapy for yourself is in order instead of looking to a new relationship to fix your difficult emotions.

Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:34

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/11/2024 16:31

@Pusheen467

so you’re saying that anyone with kids who enters into another relationship and lives with their partner is selfish?! WOW!

In most cases yep.

Go look at the thread about the poster whose six year old hates her partner and look at all the replies about how many people were miserable having their parents' partners inflicted on them in their homes. It doesn't kill people to live separately from their partners. I'd never make my dauhter live with a random man.

Anuta77 · 18/11/2024 16:42

Ponderingwindow · 18/11/2024 03:57

your dd shouldn’t have to live with some woman just because you have a relationship. You should only be moving to cohabitation and thoughts of marriage and additional children if your girlfriend has also developed a strong independent relationship with your existing child. If their relationship is nothing short of easy and your daughter shows any hesitation to proceeding to cohabitation, then it is too soon.

Your relationship with your daughter will be irrevocably damaged of you rush to replace her with a second round family. If your girlfriend requires a particular timeline, then she isn’t the right woman for you.

Just because the father has a new relationship, the daughter is not replaced. They can build a lovely family and one day, she might even be happy to have a sibling as opposed to being alone when her father when she starts aging or even later...She does need a lot of reassurance and maybe some therapy. That's what I would do in this situation.
Children should not dictate to parents what they should do with their lives.

Fluufer · 18/11/2024 16:44

Anuta77 · 18/11/2024 16:42

Just because the father has a new relationship, the daughter is not replaced. They can build a lovely family and one day, she might even be happy to have a sibling as opposed to being alone when her father when she starts aging or even later...She does need a lot of reassurance and maybe some therapy. That's what I would do in this situation.
Children should not dictate to parents what they should do with their lives.

They wouldn't need to dictate if the parent would behave sensibly.

Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:46

Are some posters missing that he has only been with this woman for SIX MONTHS??? And she's 38 so doesn't have years to wait (so clearly should find a different partner). So it's fine to make your children miserable because we can't let them "dictate our lives"?

Think I'll go smoke some crack. Absolutely sick of my kid dictating my life choices tbh.

Pelagi · 18/11/2024 16:51

Dear me.

OP: my daughter is coming to terms with what she thought was her family being split apart, less than 11 months ago. I have taken up with someone new, approx 3 months after that traumatic event for my daughter. She is resistant to this. I want to move in with my girlfriend though. What shall I do?

95% of answers: whoah, steady on, this is so fast for your daughter, maybe see it from her perspective and slow things down. See new people, yes, of course, but really considering moving in at this stage will be potentially even more traumatic for your daughter. You have plenty of time to meet someone in a timescale that works for your daughter as well.

OP: oh so you think I should NEVER LOVE AGAIN do you. BTW I am a Great Dad.

5% of answers: you deserve happiness, your daughter should learn it’s not all about her.

OP: yes thank you, great responses, I do deserve happiness, I will be reassuring and tell her don’t worry sweetheart, it’s all going to be fine and then just do what I want to do anyway. BTW I am still a Great Dad and a Good Person.

As everyone’s grandma used to say: handsome is as handsome does.

CheekyHobson · 18/11/2024 16:52

Fluufer · 18/11/2024 16:44

They wouldn't need to dictate if the parent would behave sensibly.

Exactly. My kids don't dictate my life choices because I give them all the consideration they are due given that we are making our way through life TOGETHER, as a unit.

KeenCat · 18/11/2024 16:53

Pelagi · 18/11/2024 16:51

Dear me.

OP: my daughter is coming to terms with what she thought was her family being split apart, less than 11 months ago. I have taken up with someone new, approx 3 months after that traumatic event for my daughter. She is resistant to this. I want to move in with my girlfriend though. What shall I do?

95% of answers: whoah, steady on, this is so fast for your daughter, maybe see it from her perspective and slow things down. See new people, yes, of course, but really considering moving in at this stage will be potentially even more traumatic for your daughter. You have plenty of time to meet someone in a timescale that works for your daughter as well.

OP: oh so you think I should NEVER LOVE AGAIN do you. BTW I am a Great Dad.

5% of answers: you deserve happiness, your daughter should learn it’s not all about her.

OP: yes thank you, great responses, I do deserve happiness, I will be reassuring and tell her don’t worry sweetheart, it’s all going to be fine and then just do what I want to do anyway. BTW I am still a Great Dad and a Good Person.

As everyone’s grandma used to say: handsome is as handsome does.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Daisylookslost · 18/11/2024 16:56

I do not think you should allow your dd to dictate your personal life.

this is exactly what I was going to say…

you can love your daughter while having a life, if she doesn’t want to be part of it then that is her choice and if you leave the door open so to speak there will be every chance she may change her mind in future

colddays · 18/11/2024 16:58

MorettiForMargo · 18/11/2024 16:12

You don't think the "root of her insecurity" is being abandoned by her mother earlier this year, her father wanting to have a baby with a younger woman who he's only dated for six months and him claiming he is housebound because of her despite dating, going to the gym daily and fobbing her off on her grandparents at weekends?

Her mother's barely out the door. I genuinely don't think starting a brand new family with an unknown entity would make a 12/13 year feel anything but insecure. It's textbook abandonment by two parents.

Edited

Absolutely this!

Just incredible that anyone could have read OPs posts and think there is any mystery as to why the daughter is insecure. Its completely bloody obvious!

Pusheen467 · 18/11/2024 16:59

Daisylookslost · 18/11/2024 16:56

I do not think you should allow your dd to dictate your personal life.

this is exactly what I was going to say…

you can love your daughter while having a life, if she doesn’t want to be part of it then that is her choice and if you leave the door open so to speak there will be every chance she may change her mind in future

She's 13 - doesn't exactly have much choice? Her mother has abandoned her and her dad wants to move in a woman he's dated for six months and get her pregnant. On what planet is thjs OK?