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Child hates me having a girlfriend

942 replies

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 03:44

Hi. I'm a man reaching out for advice from a female perspective so please be gentle.

I am divorced and currently have sole custody of my teen daughter. I am 50 and have been seeing a lovely woman who is 38 for sometime. We get on great, however and understandably she is at an age where she would like to have children sooner than later. I am happy with this, I am a young 50 and very healthy for my age and a great Dad.

My daughter is already finding it hard for me to have a girlfriend and has stated that she doesn't want to meet her, let alone her living with me and the idea of me having another child and sibling would flip her out greatly. She's been crying a lot just me seeing someone and I feel awful.

I understand all of this as I'm all she has, her relationship with her Mum isn't good and they rarely see each other. I'm torn, as I definitely don't want to damage her or our relationship either, but also don't want to lose my girlfriend. In five years my daughter will be an adult and I don't want to be on my own so have had to be slightly selfish by seeing someone to begin with. It'll only get harder over time otherwise.

My child means everything to me and is not being capricious, merely I'm all she has and I think she can't bear me giving my love to someone else or losing me.

Any advice would be appreciated.

OP posts:
Fluufer · 18/11/2024 11:56

MorettiForMargo · 18/11/2024 11:54

He has used the term incorrectly.

He's claiming to be "housebound" because he is a single father and his daughter won't let him date.

Somehow though he's managed a six month relationship with someone who he's now considering a new child with.

Less than a year after his wife walked out.

How offensive to people who are ACTUALLY housebound, eh?

Edited

The dramatics of that phrasing suggests to me that he was used to do what he wanted when he wanted. Until his wife left. Which is also why he's keen to lock mum#2 asap.

Calliopespa · 18/11/2024 11:56

SnapdragonToadflax · 18/11/2024 11:53

Sorry - I assumed from another poster's post, as I couldn't see an age specifically given in the OP's replies. Should have worked it out for myself!

Even worse, then.

No I couldn’t see the age either … but as you say. 13 makes an a fortiori case for prioritising dd right now.

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 11:56

Anna713 · 18/11/2024 11:41

I feel for you OP. I have a son in his forties in a very similar position to you. He has a 'new' girlfriend but she already has children. My granddaughter likes the girlfriend and her children very much but is having difficulty in accepting her dad's new relationship. She is slowly coming round with much reassurance from us all and she is enjoying being part of a family with other children although I won't pretend there aren't difficulties. No advice really but you deserve to be happy too and you sound like a very caring and loving dad to me.

Thank you Anna713. I think I deserve to be happy as does my child, it's trying to find a way to make it work. Reassurance, knowing that she is loved, which she is massively, is what I feel is the way forward.

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TheShellBeach · 18/11/2024 11:57

Why is it that all the men who post on here believe they're very good dads?

They also believe they don't look their age.

OP you've got a very recent girlfriend here. It's much too soon to call her a partner, and definitely too soon to introduce her to your daughter.

Yes, you're entitled to a relationship, but not at the expense of your child.

Also, if your new girlfriend is already 38, and is hoping to have a baby, you need to let her find someone who is available, and not as old as you. 50 is too old to plan a new baby.

Suppose it took 2 years for pregnancy to occur. You'd be over 70 when this baby was about to go to university.

kirinm · 18/11/2024 11:58

@Calliopespa tbf he hasn't said her age (oddly but presumably deliberately). He did say his ex had her when he was 37.

canyouletthedogoutplease · 18/11/2024 11:58

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 18/11/2024 11:49

You keep saying you are a 'very good father' and you say you want a 'female' perspective. Many women who are very experienced in this kind of scenario are saying that in the difficult situation you are in, with an upset and no doubt traumatised 13 year old daughter, being a 'very very good father' means delaying having a live in partner and/or another baby until the daughter you already have is OK.
Are you sure you want a genuine female perspective, or are you on the lookout for validation for something you've already decided to do? If the latter, then you have wasted the time of a lot of concerned women on this forum.

Edited

Wants a female perspective that supports his, and anyone that doesn't agree is bitter. I think.

Nasty old jealous dried up sticks, we are. Zero pandering. Outragous.

TheShellBeach · 18/11/2024 11:59

canyouletthedogoutplease · 18/11/2024 11:58

Wants a female perspective that supports his, and anyone that doesn't agree is bitter. I think.

Nasty old jealous dried up sticks, we are. Zero pandering. Outragous.

Yes, this does tend to happen.

Men don't like women who don't agree with them.

Meowingtwice · 18/11/2024 12:00

TheShellBeach · 18/11/2024 11:57

Why is it that all the men who post on here believe they're very good dads?

They also believe they don't look their age.

OP you've got a very recent girlfriend here. It's much too soon to call her a partner, and definitely too soon to introduce her to your daughter.

Yes, you're entitled to a relationship, but not at the expense of your child.

Also, if your new girlfriend is already 38, and is hoping to have a baby, you need to let her find someone who is available, and not as old as you. 50 is too old to plan a new baby.

Suppose it took 2 years for pregnancy to occur. You'd be over 70 when this baby was about to go to university.

I think its an attempt to avoid being attacked by the women who've already assumed they aren't.

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 18/11/2024 12:00

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 11:56

Thank you Anna713. I think I deserve to be happy as does my child, it's trying to find a way to make it work. Reassurance, knowing that she is loved, which she is massively, is what I feel is the way forward.

Edited

Why don’t you ask Anna what was the amount of time between this child’s dad leaving and Anna’s son getting involved?

Why don’t you also ask her how long they were seeing each other before introducing the child to him?

BH24 · 18/11/2024 12:00

Your wife left you earlier this year, you've been seeing this woman for 6 months? So in your daughter's shoes, she is resentful at her mum for leaving and then shortly after, her dad meets someone so she's feeling alone and unwanted (I know that's not your intention, but that's how she'll be feeling). You already are thinking of and wanting another child with this woman you've only been seeing for 6 months. If you have a baby, of course that baby will become centre of attention for a little while and have more needs, so your daughter is feeling like she has no mother, no father, her dad has a new girlfriend he's giving attention to AND THEN going to have a new different family unit with said girlfriend by having a baby. I think it would be selfish to have a baby with your girlfriend, your daughter is clearly unhappy and has self esteem issues already, this will become worse if you go on to have more children.

I'm not saying you don't love your daughter but I'd spend this time making your daughter feel loved and putting her needs first, she comes first and should be of most importance to you. You can meet someone at any time, any age but your needs and your girlfriend's needs are different to each other due to the age gap, and further down the line your girlfriend may be one of the ones I see often writing on here about how her partner's daughter is driving a wedge between their relationship and is thinking of leaving because of it, leaving resentment all around with you and her unhappy, your daughter unhappy and then another child with separated resentful parents. Basically it would end in chaos, so think very carefully.

Looking4wards · 18/11/2024 12:00

OP I'm not getting the feeling she's loved... she's in last place after your ego and your dick.
What do you mean by loved? Like putting her needs first? Nope you're not doing that. Making her feel secure? Nope not that either. Forcing her to adapt to a stranger in a very short amount of time? That's not love. You feed her and clothe her? That's just the bare minimum you should be doing... that doesn't make you a good dad.

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 12:00

Fluufer · 18/11/2024 11:56

The dramatics of that phrasing suggests to me that he was used to do what he wanted when he wanted. Until his wife left. Which is also why he's keen to lock mum#2 asap.

Never locked anyone up. Quite the opposite in fact. How else would you term not being able to hardly ever go out the evening or weekends, having no support or childcare. Women always have people to turn to, friends, parents. A single Dad is much harder to get support for. It's a pleasure to care for my child, but I think as any Mum would attest to, we all need to be happy personally so we can be at our best for the child.

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Meowingtwice · 18/11/2024 12:01

Fluufer · 18/11/2024 11:56

The dramatics of that phrasing suggests to me that he was used to do what he wanted when he wanted. Until his wife left. Which is also why he's keen to lock mum#2 asap.

He was repeating a term someone else used so go back and attack them.

Bumcake · 18/11/2024 12:01

kirinm · 18/11/2024 11:27

Is daughter isn't 15. She's 13.

We’ve guessed her age, he won’t say which makes me think she might be even younger.

Lavenderflower · 18/11/2024 12:01

I have not read all the post. It sounds like you want the relationship and not the child - I think you and your girlfriend are in two different stages of life. Neither of you are stable if you want to bring another child yet the, she has not met your child. Whilst you may want a relationship, do you think your relationship will survive a child?

nonevernotever · 18/11/2024 12:01

Amuseaboosh · 18/11/2024 07:05

OP, no one can advise you on your daughter's reaction. We don't know her. You do.

Unless she has a significant history of mental health issues, please don't put your life on hold. You will not be helping her, and she will only struggle more so the older she gets. She will also take this lesson into other parts of her life, which won't benefit her in her own relationships.

I would not move your partner in just yet unless you have been together for 3 or 4 years, and moving in has been an open conversation for you all, regardless of how your DD feels.

I would keep reassuring your daughter, I would spend one on one time with her; without your partner and then I would build up to a meeting, more, 'we are going for a walk on x day at x time', or an activity that you know your daughter will love. If you keep waiting for her to agree, it'll never happen. You have to help her to understand that life is all about change. Change is uncomfortable, but it leads to growth, and we have to try. You're not encouraging her to become a criminal. You're trying to help her move forward with you while supporting that transition from just the 2 of you to 3, maybe 4 of you. Life doesn't stop for anyone, not even our children. The difference is that we can be kind about how we proceed and at what pace we proceed.

Your daughter is responding to this situation purely from her limbic system. Read or listen to the Chimp Paradox. It will benefit your understanding of her feelings a huge amount.

All of the above is truly dependent on how long you've been in this relationship. Your daughters age matters. Is she 13, 15, or 17?

Please don't be afraid to live. You're more than 'Dad', and one day, your daughter will be more than just your little girl. I doubt that as an adult, she'd want to know she's responsible for a lonely old age for you, not to mention sole caring responsibilities for her. We all need support and opportunities for growth.

Help her to navigate this challenge. Don't hide from it or be frozen by it.

Oh, and my experience comes from being a long-time family law practitioner, working closely with Cafcass, Mediators, Child Psychologists, Judges, Social Services, Local Authorities, Teachers, Therapists and, being a mum to 3 daughters for almost 2 decades.

Also, my husband is 50. He absolutely could be a Dad at 50, and he'd be fantastic at it.

This. What I wanted to say, but more articulate.

TheShellBeach · 18/11/2024 12:02

It almost sounds like the wife left one night, and this bloke went to the pub the next, to find a girlfriend.
🤣

kirinm · 18/11/2024 12:02

@Meowingtwice I don't think anyone thought badly of him until he said that he'd only split from his ex this year and is already 6 months into a relationship and wondering why his young child isn't being supportive of his desires.

Meowingtwice · 18/11/2024 12:03

kirinm · 18/11/2024 12:02

@Meowingtwice I don't think anyone thought badly of him until he said that he'd only split from his ex this year and is already 6 months into a relationship and wondering why his young child isn't being supportive of his desires.

That's true. I do think it's ok in theory but being rushed.

Calliopespa · 18/11/2024 12:03

kirinm · 18/11/2024 11:58

@Calliopespa tbf he hasn't said her age (oddly but presumably deliberately). He did say his ex had her when he was 37.

Ah is that what it is. I did try to look …

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 12:03

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 18/11/2024 12:00

Why don’t you ask Anna what was the amount of time between this child’s dad leaving and Anna’s son getting involved?

Why don’t you also ask her how long they were seeing each other before introducing the child to him?

I think a near year on my own and four years of a partner stating clearly they don't want me is enough time. It's not a prison sentence, according to you and others I should just stay unhappy and go on silver dating in 10 years.

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LadyMargaretPoledancer · 18/11/2024 12:04

What a walking cliché this guy is.

I'd love to hear the ex wife's side of the story.

Thatdontimpressmemuchh · 18/11/2024 12:05

CheekyHobson · 18/11/2024 05:15

In five years my daughter will be an adult and I don't want to be on my own so have had to be slightly selfish by seeing someone to begin with.

If you are a young 50, in good nick, and a genuinely decent guy, you can wait five years and you will have your absolute pick of women 45+. Decent men that age are in rather short supply.

Is the issue not so much that you are scared you’ll end up alone, but that you’re scared you’ll end up too old to score someone who can/is willing to give you another child?

I highly doubt he would be interested in a woman his own age or even close. They never are!

TheShellBeach · 18/11/2024 12:05

Women always have people to turn to, friends, parents. A single Dad is much harder to get support for.

What nonsense. Anyone can get a babysitter. It's not difficult.

I can't believe this OP is claiming to be "housebound".

That's a phrase I associate with very elderly, disabled people.

Fluufer · 18/11/2024 12:05

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 12:00

Never locked anyone up. Quite the opposite in fact. How else would you term not being able to hardly ever go out the evening or weekends, having no support or childcare. Women always have people to turn to, friends, parents. A single Dad is much harder to get support for. It's a pleasure to care for my child, but I think as any Mum would attest to, we all need to be happy personally so we can be at our best for the child.

Lol ok mate. I would term it parenting. Your kid is 13, if you've not built a support network in that time it's your own fault.