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Husband just walked out- intimacy issues

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Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 11:41

Bit of background, me and DH have 3 kids aged 7,4 and 2. My libido always been a bit lower than his but okay, we talked about it before marriage and with our vicar in wedding counselling prior and dh said he couldnt live in a sexless marriage. Which is fine by me I agreed.
Since then and with the children our sex life has been up and down and on a down patch after our second we had some counselling where husband says he doesn’t feel desired, touch is a love language and he always initiates which makes him feel like he’s pressuring me. He basically said if things didn’t improve he’d leave because it’s so important to him. we talked it through (though counsellor wasn’t great and part of her advice was to stop breastfeeding??!!!). we were okay for a while.
Recently I’ve changed contraception and after sorting it finally my husband suggested we try for intimacy once a week and he didn’t always want to intiate.

This was fine at first but last few weeks we haven’t and I didn’t think anything of it. Then last weekend he did suggest we go upstairs but I’d hurt my neck and told him it might be worth waiting a few days which he was annoyed about but he knows it’s true!

Cut to mid week last week and after we did kids bedtime I came down and he had packed a bag! He told me he had arranged a room through air bnb and was moving there. He was very calm saying he had always been clear about intimacy and he couldn’t see the marriage continuing. The air bnb is 10 minute walk away and he left.
I have been left overnight with kids and doing breakfast in the morning. I normally do this but sometimes he is here working from home or sometimes he has left for the office. I do the childminder drop off for youngest and school runs. We both work, then one of us will pick kids up from childminder at 5:30-6. He has come here after work to help with bedtimes then off back to the air Bnb!!!

Last night he sent an email saying this weekend he would be back home with family (they live 150 miles away) and then he would look after kids next weekend. He said we can discuss a longer term solution. He has the money to rent a room I’m sure but that money we have been putting towards our holidays etc. He earns more than me.

I am totally blindsided and don’t know what to do next?! When I’ve talked to him he said he hasn’t ruled out reconciling but doesn’t know how things are expected to change when we’ve already discussed and had counselling about this issue before. I’d be willing to make more of an effort but it’s just not on my radar as much as him.

Ideas? He’s really calm and just seems a bit sad and in “I’ve got a plan” mode?! I’ve been frustrated upset and shocked and asked him to stay and talk but he’s just been going back to air bnb and wants to talk when situation a bit clearer and calmer? Kids are okay but confused their day is pretty much the same.

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TheShellBeach · 16/11/2024 15:42

I was in a similar marriage, OP. For context I'm a woman, and my husband just stopped having sex with me. We had four DC.

I agree that it's a deal breaker. Apart from the frustration, it's the feeling of not being wanted and desired.

Before things came to a head, he actually left me, for another man.

I did eventually remarry and I have been very happy (in every way) with my now DH for 25 years.

Rosesanddaffs · 16/11/2024 15:43

@Newstart2024 I’m sorry you are going through this.

I think you aren’t alone with the way you feel, I feel like this too, after working and putting my daughter to bed the last thing I want is to be jumping on anyone.

It’s exhausting and before children things are so different. My body isn’t the way it used to be, I don’t think men understand.

He’s unfair for packing a bag and leaving you to it.

cookiebee · 16/11/2024 15:45

Was about to post then saw your reveal, same advice, you are doing the right thing and have been duped and strung along, my sympathy was with your husband and now is still with you as the one leaving. I was not surprised by how many were against the husband after your posts, but mumsnet doesn’t like helping men as I’ve found as I am one.

villagecrafts · 16/11/2024 15:46

OK, so he's the one rejecting you. Does he masturbate? If so then he isn't being honest about his sex drive.

You seem pretty set on ending the marriage so I guess you have already given up on really trying to communicate and get him to connect with you emotionally.

Yet you say you love him. I'm confused, but tend to agree with @OooSorryDoctor - 'how can you contemplate potentially ruining your children’s childhood because of this?'

Fluufer · 16/11/2024 15:46

My opinion is unchanged. You are incompatible, have been from the start, should never have got married.
You should have a conversation before just walking out though.
Does he watch porn by any chance?

TheShellBeach · 16/11/2024 15:46

Rosesanddaffs · 16/11/2024 15:43

@Newstart2024 I’m sorry you are going through this.

I think you aren’t alone with the way you feel, I feel like this too, after working and putting my daughter to bed the last thing I want is to be jumping on anyone.

It’s exhausting and before children things are so different. My body isn’t the way it used to be, I don’t think men understand.

He’s unfair for packing a bag and leaving you to it.

You need to read the update.
This is a reverse.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 16/11/2024 15:49

Ignore anything I typed earlier I feel a right fool!

AgnesX · 16/11/2024 15:49

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 11:57

I’m attracted to his as much as anyone else but we’ve been together 16 years so just got into a routine I guess.

we’re all meant to be spending Christmas with his family it’s al booked and arranged? So no idea what’s happening about that now.

My family live an hour away if he rents a room in a house am
I meant to clear out when it’s his turn with kids until we sort things out longer term?

Bit dazed and confused!

He can't expect that. He's moved out and it's his choice but you doing the same is unreasonable.

Don't even consider it.

Edit that to be don't expect him to. The advice is the same.

TheShellBeach · 16/11/2024 15:51

AgnesX · 16/11/2024 15:49

He can't expect that. He's moved out and it's his choice but you doing the same is unreasonable.

Don't even consider it.

Edit that to be don't expect him to. The advice is the same.

Edited

Read the update.

MerlotMisery · 16/11/2024 15:52

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 15:34

Okay all, ready for the big reveal? This is a reverse and the husband in this situation is me, the wife, and although my bag is packed and air bnb is booked I haven’t walked out just yet.

I apologise for the deception but a couple of reasons;

  1. I find it different when the issue is the man isn’t interested in sex, people have preconceptions in their heads who should have desire etc and it gets in the way sometimes.
  2. On mumsnet whenever a man puts a foot wrong 50% of the advice is LTB. Whilst I think that’s probably going to happen in this case it’s actually the more thought through responses that have been helpful so thanks!

I’m the one who noticed dry spells for marriage and raised it before we got married. I’m the one who works Monday- Friday. I’m the one who arranged therapy last time and he was happy to come (though he’s the advice was to stop breastfeeding and cosleeping as though that would help my husbands low libido). I am the only totally broken by the idea of facing a sexless marriage, so sad the man I love can’t compromise on this and doesn’t seem to take me seriously when I’ve said it’s a deal breaker. I’m the one who doesn’t like the cuddles and kisses when he knows I’m hurting because he won’t sleep with me. I’m the the one who wanted to go upstairs the other night and suddenly he had a sore neck. This is why I’ve been so defensive for my husband but it’s actually me. This post was to sanity check I’ve basically been as clear as a I can all along and there’s not much else I can do.

A lot of responses are going to help me articulate to my husband I’ve really tried as much as possible, I’ve been clear before and throughout our marriage and I don’t know where to go from here. The more I pop the pill… needlessly… the more I become sad, depressed and angry. To pretend in this marriage is not me, I can’t do it.

Before leaving I will talk to him but I think this is the end of the road unless he starts to actually take things seriously. Ultimately I don’t think things will change and this is the end. But onwards and upwards and I’m going to try and stay positive and at least know I was authentic about it and honest the whole time!

Ha ha haaaa! Standing ovation.

Thanks for a great Saturday's entertainment 👍👍

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 15:52

villagecrafts · 16/11/2024 15:46

OK, so he's the one rejecting you. Does he masturbate? If so then he isn't being honest about his sex drive.

You seem pretty set on ending the marriage so I guess you have already given up on really trying to communicate and get him to connect with you emotionally.

Yet you say you love him. I'm confused, but tend to agree with @OooSorryDoctor - 'how can you contemplate potentially ruining your children’s childhood because of this?'

I’m not set on ending the marriage but I literally don’t know what to do from here. On his terms it’s twice a month if I’m lucky….
We had agreed to once a week with him initiating sometimes now I’ve got my boobs and pill sorted and… it’s not working.

I don’t think he’s taken me seriously despite the counselling. I’m wondering if a trial separation is the clearest way of showing him what the inevitable outcome is.
The more I think about it the more I think he just doesn’t have much of a libido to work with. What do I do if I meet someone attractive who actually seems interested in me? (I’m fact it’s happened before with a colleague and freaked me out and upset me that I might be tempted to cheat).I do think he masturbates but don’t imagine it’s a lot who knows, he’s never said. Maybe that’s something sex therapy would go through?

I am so out of ideas that there not more I can do which is make good on the fact this isn’t a marriage for me. The rest of it is up to him.
Will check out the Reddit.

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potatocakesinprogress · 16/11/2024 15:53

I don't really see what the difference is between you initiating + him initiating because you told him to initiate. They're both you initiating.

Maurepas · 16/11/2024 15:54

I think (know) medication is available for low libido in form of one small daily pill for both men and women (different pills).

potatocakesinprogress · 16/11/2024 15:54

Does he watch porn or masturbate? If he does I'd guess it's attraction to you specifically that's the problem.

Christmaspanicisreal · 16/11/2024 15:55

OP if this was a fundamental problem and deal-breaker before you got married, why did you get married?

OnlyinBlackandWhite · 16/11/2024 15:55

Not to be touched or held or desired would kill me, so my advice does not change for you OP.

I did think it was odd though that he volunteered so readily to come back and look after 3 children on his own. I don't know many men that would have done that and stepped up to 50/50 childrearing. Now I know why!

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 15:56

potatocakesinprogress · 16/11/2024 15:53

I don't really see what the difference is between you initiating + him initiating because you told him to initiate. They're both you initiating.

Begging for sex is humiliating. And especially so, right or wrong, when you’re the woman.

OP posts:
Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 15:57

potatocakesinprogress · 16/11/2024 15:54

Does he watch porn or masturbate? If he does I'd guess it's attraction to you specifically that's the problem.

Absolutely fine just be honest about it so we can both move on.

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DeepRoseFish · 16/11/2024 15:57

NoisyDenimShaker · 16/11/2024 14:52

You're playing with fire. I'm sorry, but you are. Making your husband feel loved and wanted and desired will pay dividends. How would you feel if he didn't want you? I've been the sexually rejected spouse and it was very psychologically damaging. It's extremely unfair of you to take him off the market and then put him on the metaphorical shelf, like a toy you buy and keep all for yourself but then refuse to play with. He can't have connection and physical intimacy and feel desired by you, and he can't have it with anyone else either. It's a horrendous position to put someone in who you're supposed to love. I get that you're carrying the can, but he might do more if he felt wanted by the woman he loves. Chicken and egg. Be the bigger person and break the stalemate. I find your laugh emoji sad, because so many marriages have been broken by rejection.

I think we as a society need to be a lot more honest about what marriage entails and the fact that one of its contractual obligations is forsaking all others...the flip side of which is that you have to put some real focus on the spouse's human needs for intimacy and connection, since no one else is going to be focused on fulfilling those needs for him.

If he breaks under the psychological misery of being unwanted by you, don't be surprised.

Edited

Shes doing it all.

Perhaps if her husband did his fair share she’d have more energy for sex!!!!

it really is that simple

rebeccaxxxx · 16/11/2024 15:59

so wait do you earn three times as much as him? and is he a great hands on dad?
I think you both have to want it to work and to make it work, and if he won't put the effort into therapy and discuss with you what the problem is then it's not a partnership. maybe he is depressed or getting it some other way?
My husband and I have a libido mismatch but we have worked through it together.
Anyway you shouldn't leave the family home, until you have gotten advice from a solicitor etc.

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:00

Christmaspanicisreal · 16/11/2024 15:55

OP if this was a fundamental problem and deal-breaker before you got married, why did you get married?

As I’ve said in the reverse before marriage I mentioned that when we had a dry spell I noticed more than him and had to be proactive but then we would have sex.
We had sex a few times a week before we got married and was nowhere near the order of magnitude of only a few times a month.
We got married because I thought I’d been clear about this that he was happy and understood and we both wanted to continue. Yet now we’re married he doesn’t make much of an effort at all.

He does do more of the childcare so think that is a strain but ok Fridays the older kids are at school and his Mum takes the youngest out for the morning so he has a whole morning a week to chill and do what he wants! It hasn’t helped.

OP posts:
Christmaspanicisreal · 16/11/2024 16:04

Having a young family is absolutely exhausting.

Is there a chance that in time it might improve.
Very common for couples to ‘lose each other’ for a bit - and I do mean a few years - when they’re in the trenches of family life, and then find each other when they start coming out the other side.

godmum56 · 16/11/2024 16:04

my only question after the reverse is why did you have another child?

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:05

rebeccaxxxx · 16/11/2024 15:59

so wait do you earn three times as much as him? and is he a great hands on dad?
I think you both have to want it to work and to make it work, and if he won't put the effort into therapy and discuss with you what the problem is then it's not a partnership. maybe he is depressed or getting it some other way?
My husband and I have a libido mismatch but we have worked through it together.
Anyway you shouldn't leave the family home, until you have gotten advice from a solicitor etc.

Yes I earn 3 times as much. My job is much better paid. He has to do most of the childcare so I can’t really kick him out. I wouldn’t be able to get into the office on time. So it’s up to me to leave.

I want to stay and want this sorted but if he’s making zero effort and I’m upset every day what’s the marriage?!

He knows something is brewing I will talk to him about next steps. If it comes as a surprise then he is oblivious as well as uninterested!

OP posts:
Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:06

godmum56 · 16/11/2024 16:04

my only question after the reverse is why did you have another child?

Honestly… it was a mistake we shouldn’t have had another child. At the time things were improving and trying for another child helped, he was all game for that. It was probably giving me false hope it was a communication thing and not a compatibility thing.

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