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my dp has told me he hates me for getting pregnant and having our dd

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veryunhappychappy · 27/04/2008 20:58

I am devastated.

Everything is crumbling around me and I do not know what to do. dd is 5 months old today and since she was 4 weeks old he has been viciously nasty to me, very critical, scathing comments every time i speak/ do anything. he is unwelcoming to my friends and family and pretty controlling at times. i feel totally paralysed by him and it's at the point where i do nothing but try and stay out of his way when he is at home.

i found out about a month ago he has a codeine addiction, on top of a problem with cannabis -which i knew about, but have always been supportive of his efforts to stop, and have always remained hopeful that he would. all my hope is going. not just for that but for absolutely everything. he spends hundreds of ££'s a month on his addictions (this has become very obvious since i went on maternity leave and am unable to plug financial gaps).

i feel i am treading a very fine line at the moment and am not sure if all this is making me depressed.

i am so sad for dd. she is a lovely, bright baby and he is so detached from everything that he shows very little interest in her - not because he isn't interested, but because he is absolutely full of self loathing and anger.

He has stopped eating and has lost lots of weight. he won't eat anything i make because my food is 'shite'. he had developed control issues to the point of neurosis which means he wants to do everything himself, meaning he spends even less time with dd. at a rough estimate i would say he takes sole responsibility of her for less than 30 mins each day.

He ignored my 30th birthday in favour of buying and smoking cannabis -and completely ignored valentines day too. since then i have not kept quiet to keep the peace but have been responding to his criticisms and actually wrote him a long letter outlining my fears (that his behaving this way is making me depressed and is putting everything at serious risk). He broke down and confessed to the codeine addiction and is now getting drug counselling.

i don't want to sound like a complete wet rag, but he is not a wicked person. i know this behaviour stems from him being deeply unhappy and confused about his parents messy separation when he was a child (he has a deep mistrust of women and i have put myself right in his firing line for becoming a 'mother' i think). i am finding it harder and harder to see him. i miss him so much. it is like he is just slipping away right in front of my eyes and there is nothing i can do. he won't let me help.

Today he told me he hates me for getting pregnant and trapping him. i have devastated his life by doing it. dd was not planned and he says he has no trust for me as a result. He is lived that we didn't discuss an abortion (at the time I said it was something i could not do).

Please help, I do not know what to do.

Sorry, long. (am a namechanger btw)

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veryunhappychappy · 27/04/2008 21:00

livid

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Janni · 27/04/2008 21:02

You DO know what you need to do, you just need a gentle nudge to do it. You MUST get out. He is a deeply troubled man and the birth of your child has brought him face to face with all the stuff he has been trying to suppress with his addictions.

You HAVE to leave. If, one or two years down the line he has had therapy, stopped using and is willing to be a good partner and father then you may be able to try again, but right now he will destroy you if you stay.

Do you have anywhere you can go?

TheHedgeWitch · 27/04/2008 21:03

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Janos · 27/04/2008 21:05

Couldn't see this and not post.

Having a baby puts an enormous strain on any relationship butthis sounds like a different kettle of fish. He clearly has a lot of problems.

His behaviour is abusive and you probably know this. His comments to you about 'trapping' him are unforgivable.

I would say get out now and don't look back. There don't sound like any plus points in this realtionship.

Don't fall into the trap of trying to 'save' him. Look after yourself and your DD.

Janos · 27/04/2008 21:06

Yes, support is very important in this kind of situation - what, if any, do you have?

TheApprentice · 27/04/2008 21:07

Your post makes me so sad and Janni is right, you must get out of this situation. Even if he is not a bad person at heart, as you say, he has issues that you cannot cure for him, and at the very least he needs to get them, and the addictions, sorted before he can be an adequate partner and father.

I am so, so sorry you are in this situation, its terrible for you, but please try to find someone to help you - have you good friends/and family you can turn to?

wrinklytum · 27/04/2008 21:07

yOU DON'T DESERVE THIS

Second what Janni says,even though you obviously love him ,you and baby come first.

He needs to sort out his head and grow up by the sounds of it.

WinkyWinkola · 27/04/2008 21:09

You must get out of this highly toxic situation.

I don't think you can help him. Only he can help him.

Please put yourself and your daughter first. Your DP is not doing this.

If he feels trapped, let him go.

veryunhappychappy · 27/04/2008 21:09

I told him today i can't take it anymore. i don't feel strong enough. then we argued about who should leave.

he is lashing out. he loves dd, i can see that. it is himself he hates.

in a calm moment today i managed to broach the subject of his misogeny, and he does seem to be able to see it and where it has come from.

it hurts hurts hurts. i have always said i will not leave him - i want to be with him but he keeps pushing me. today is the first time i have ever said i can't be with him any more.

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lilyloo · 27/04/2008 21:10

He needs help and quickly.
You need to think of hat is best ultimately for dd. Although you may not want to hear this it i probably away from him at this time. You canno continue to live like this and dd will soon be aware of what's going on around her.
You have not devestated his life it's just that he cannot see how you have enriched it.
Are you able to leave ?

littlewoman · 27/04/2008 21:10

Sorry, but I'd kick his arse as far from my door as I could. I know that sounds horrible, but so does he at the moment.

WinkyWinkola · 27/04/2008 21:11

You can't help him. Really. You will only get hurt. Your daughter will only get hurt.

ScruffyTheCampfireSprayer · 27/04/2008 21:13

As the survivor of a highly toxic relationship (although a very different one from yours) I think you should think about whether by staying and tolerating his corrosive behaviour you are condoning it and helping to keep him trapped in his misery and rage.

I don't know you/him obviously, but IME sometimes people need to be allowed to hit rock bottom before they can bounce back up. Does that make sense?

You can't reparent him, however much he needs it. You have a real child now. His grief and sadness sound palpable, I feel terribly sorry for him, but you cannot be the solution and your dd cannot be the casualty. Eventually he will have to find the nurture and care he needs within himself.

I'm so sorry you are going through this, you must be exhausted . Do keep posting, there's lots of support here.

Janos · 27/04/2008 21:14

If he absolutely won't go, is there anywhere you can go?

You must, must get away from this awful man.

Maybe he does hate himself but he's doing a bloody good job of being hateful to everyone around him isn't he.

Your DD won't thank you for martyring yourself like this.

Think about it this way. Would you want your dD to end up in a relationship like this? I bet you wouldn't.

You don't have to put up with this and it isn't YOUR job to sort out his problems.

Lulumama · 27/04/2008 21:15

so he hates you for getting pregnant and trapping him and ruining his life, yet his life has not changed one bit

he is spending money on drugs, ignoring the fact he is a father, ignoring your needs. so how exactly has his life been ruined?

i;d get the biggest , burliest bloke i know to come round , pack his stuff and escort him out of the house.

and then i would see a solicitor and do anythign i could to get this waster out of mine and my DDs life

SmugColditz · 27/04/2008 21:15

You need to get away from him before your daughter learns what to expect from men, and therefore what to seek in a husband.

If he wanted to change his behavior, he would - he hasn't, so clearly he doesn't want to.

I'd give it 2 weeks to improve. Then you need to be seeing a proper improvement. And with no relapses to this disgusting behavior

Janos · 27/04/2008 21:19

Sorry if my comments sound a bit blunt but the bottom line is, you can't change someone if they don't want to change.

snowleopard · 27/04/2008 21:20

You poor thing. It really sounds as if he's very ill, has had a breakdown since the birth (as you say, caused by his previous issues being churned up) and simply cannot handle his feelings. But whatever the reasons, turn it around and look at what's happening. It's not OK to treat someone like this - anyone. His treatment of you and your DD is out of order. It's abuse, don't accept it. You need to say - I can't and won't put up with this, so I have to leave, for my sake and DD's. I would start arranging to leave right now and set up somewhere safe you can go and stay. Then just go with DD and leave him a letter and some numbers for counselling services, and if possible contact any family or friends of his and ask them to support him. You must put yourself and DD first. He may sort this out and put it behind him eventually, but only he can do that.

veryunhappychappy · 27/04/2008 21:22

i feel sick now i have written it all down. i've just been feeling strangely numb today about it all.

i am very worried about him.

i don't know how the hell i have ended up in this situation, it has almost happened so slowly that i haven't noticed it. if you had told me a few years ago about a situation like this i would have said all the things you are saying to me now.

he said today he feels like no-one is looking after him and the pressure is all too much.

because of the amount of drugs he has been taking it will take him months to withdraw.

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LyraSilvertongue · 27/04/2008 21:23

Could you persuade him to see his doctor? He sounds very depressed to me. Maybe the doc could arrange some counselling and maybe give him some anti-depressants in the meantime.
He needs to get help fast if he's to avoid ruining yours and dd's lives. If he chooses to do nothing, you've got to leave him.

lilyloo · 27/04/2008 21:25

But your ultimate concern has to be for dd as she has no choice in this.
Albeit help him get help, ask his family . friends to support him but don't leave him alone with dd at the moment. He doesn't sound stable.

Janos · 27/04/2008 21:26

"he said today he feels like no-one is looking after him and the pressure is all too much."

Please don't worry about him, you're not his mum and you can't be, you've got a baby to look after.

He sounds very selfish and self centred and I expect he is unhappy that all the focus is now off him.

Please, please put yourself and your DD first.

snowleopard · 27/04/2008 21:27

That's not your problem. It's his problem, and you have yourself and a baby to think of.

He is ill. A healthy, normal parent may find it hard work of course, but they know that a tiny baby's needs come first and having someone to look after them is not really the issue. He needs to be saying all this to a therapist - needing to be looked after is probably about his childhood feelings.

It does not need to be an unkind or vengeful thing to do if you leave. It can be matter of fact. His illness means you are being treated unacceptably, so you have to go (or he has to go if he will agree to), you want him to get the help he needs and you will look forward to hearing from him when he has recovered.

Put it to him - if he loathes you and DD so much, what's he staying for?

Has he got anywhere he could go, a friend to stay with etc.?

SmugColditz · 27/04/2008 21:28

Nobody should be looking after the jealous little shit. YOu are not his mother and his daughter is not a favoured younger sibling. It is his job to look after her and you, not the other way round. I honestly would leave your daughter alone with him, he sounds quite crazed

SmugColditz · 27/04/2008 21:29

wouldn't