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Thinking of leaving my lawyer wife

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ExasperatedHusband · 18/10/2024 18:18

Hello,

I’ve never posted on Mumsnet before, or any forum for that matter. I’d like to get a female opinion on the state of my relationship with my wife.

My wife is a successful lawyer and we have been together for 20 years now. I have my own small business.

Very sadly I have become deeply unhappy in our marriage in the last few years. The main issue is the endless number of compromises that I have made in order to support her career.

I’ve seen other threads on Mumsnet from wives that are in the same situation but with a lawyer husband. They fully understand how work takes priority over everything. My wife is writing work emails before she even gets out of bed and the same at night before bed. The hours are gruelling and relentless, with there always being some new project that requires all hands on deck. There’s always talk of a time in the future when things will be better, but that date just keeps getting pushed further and further back. Weekday evenings are a write-off and at weekends she’s often exhausted from the week, if not still working. We never actually do anything except for the occasional holiday.

Meanwhile I pick up absolutely everything in our home life. This has included some very significant problems at our house related to structural damage and litigation with a neighbour, which absorbed an immense amount of my time, whilst my wife, by her own admission “did nothing”. Then there’s all the day-to-day stuff of shopping, cooking, bills, renovations. I do pretty much everything. I am not exaggerating and she agrees that I do the vast majority of these things.

I have made a huge number of sacrifices to do all of this. As just one example I took 6 months out last year to deal with one of the above issues, at great cost to building my business and my sanity. There are several other times that I have had to make similar compromises. Meanwhile my wife would refuse to take even half-day off to deal with some domestic issue. Her work always comes first no matter what.

One of the lowest points was when I had to have a minor surgical procedure. She promised she'd come across to the hospital afterwards, but then of course something came up at work so I discharged myself and got a taxi home.

Financially I am comfortable, but she does earn significantly more than me these days as her career has progressed. This means that she will contribute more than me towards our household costs and holidays. I couldn’t care less about the money and would rather we lived a balanced, modest and happy life together.

I’ve been unwaveringly loyal to her throughout our relationship and believe that has been so to me.

I’ve got to the point now where I’ve compromised my own needs so many times that I just feel completely taken for granted and exploited. I now feel that a more balanced life, hopefully away from the city, may well never actually happen.

The worst part is that I do all of this because I love her and I want to support her and see her thrive. Sometimes I wish I didn't love her as it would make the decision to leave so easy.

I have voiced my frustrations to her, generally calmly, although there have been times when I’ve felt so exasperated that it’s been an argument. She always gets very defensive and says that I don’t appreciate her and don't appreciate the things that she does do for me (for example, she does sometimes cook).

If I talk about some of the things that I want to do and prioritise then she would simply tell me to go and do them then. Perhaps she is right, but what I really want is for her to be willing to compromise for me sometimes.

I know there’s always two sides to every relationship, but I’ve tried to lay it out factually here and I don’t think she would dispute what I’ve written.

Sadly I am now very seriously considering leaving her. My plan would be to refocus on my own needs and start living the type of life that I want rather than that all being at some vague point in the future that never arrives. I love her and I worry that I would regret the decision down the line, but at the same time I’ve compromised for so long I just don’t know if I can take it any more.

Any female perspective would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to be brutal if you think I’ve got it wrong. I need honesty.

OP posts:
the80sweregreat · 18/10/2024 19:24

I'd definitely leave and ask for a divorce
You're not happy and she isn't the wife you want , she will always be married to her job.
Why be unhappy when the answer is there and you have a chance to move on and have a different life from this?

BeerForMyHorses · 18/10/2024 19:25

This sounds awful.

Leave!

She sounds cold, boring and a bit of dick.

I hope you find someone who will appreciate you. Good luck

Spirallingdownwards · 18/10/2024 19:25

TheHeight · 18/10/2024 19:18

@ExasperatedHusband Getting promoted to partner(if she’s chasing that?) does not necessarily mean she will then reduce her workload.
I know someone whose husband promised that this was the goal, and once it was reached, things would improve. They didn’t improve.
You need to do what’s best for you now. You’ve been doing what’s best for her for a very long time. I wish you both happier times.

Believe me I know. I am a lawyer and my husband is a partner. But before you get to that stage you are chasing the goal and don't realise it gets worse in some ways and better in others. Just spent a holiday with my husband completing 2 deals the whole week!

But it does come with a tad more flexibility. But if he isn't behind her dream then he needs to be careful issuing an ultimatum he isn't going to see through as she may decide its easier to cut loose and get on with her life without being held back

Fundays12 · 18/10/2024 19:26

I can totally understand why you want to leave. Your wife's career comes before everything else including you. I wouldn't want to stay with a man who treated me like that. I respect my husband works hard but we still have lots of family time. I also work part time (we have 3 kids) but he respects that I work and love my job. It doesn't come before my husband or family though. It's time to put yourself first. Do you have kids?

itsmylife7 · 18/10/2024 19:28

She's married to her job, not you,unfortunately.

stayathomer · 18/10/2024 19:28

Op we have some issues in common, I’m a writer and with 4 kids write early in the morning or late at night or I sleep. Dh had commented on it and I’d promised things would change and I honestly did intend for them to but again things would get pushed out. He suddenly said he’d been miserable for months and thought I didn’t love him and now wasn’t sure he loved me. I can’t even tell you how the rug was pulled. If he’d told me he wasn’t sure I loved him id have sacrificed it all for him no thoughts at all. We’re now so far in I don’t think he loves me anymore. Talk to your wife seriously and see how you both feel. Consider counselling before you just end things- I wouldn’t wish this feeling on anyone

Whatsitreallylike · 18/10/2024 19:28

TygerLyt · 18/10/2024 18:47

If there are no children it’s a no brainer. Her work is more important to her than you. Leave.

Women in this situation often have children and are the default everything by necessity. Before children I don’t remember there being the huge weight of responsibility that you describe.

Yes, this was my first thought too. Bills are on direct debit, cook for one if its that much of a chore. I imagine you already have a cleaner? So beside the neighbour dispute (which won’t last forever), what is your wife not pulling her weight on?

Besides that, she clearly doesn’t prioritise spending time with you which would be a reason to leave in itself. But I don’t understand the burden you’ve described. You sound very unhappy and if she’s not willing to reprioritise then I would seriously think of leaving.

Nothatgingerpirate · 18/10/2024 19:29

BeerForMyHorses · 18/10/2024 19:25

This sounds awful.

Leave!

She sounds cold, boring and a bit of dick.

I hope you find someone who will appreciate you. Good luck

I think they both would be better off single.
Otherwise, it sounds like a complete reverse.
Such "cold uninterested dicks" - fathers, husbands
I saw many.
Good for her to have such a successful career!
Better off single. 👍

PlantHeadNo5 · 18/10/2024 19:31

The refusal to collect you after your operation kind of told you it all.

You have no kids. You can either ask her for counselling, but to be honest you’ve asked her to change and she hasn’t. I think I’d be packing my bags.

SilverTabbyCat · 18/10/2024 19:32

No children, financially secure and stuck in unhappy relationship with someone who can't even be bothered to pick you up after surgery?

I'd have left already.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/10/2024 19:33

I think as an experiment, you could try to just focus a lot more on your own needs and see if that improves the marriage as there will be less resentment. I have been a people pleaser and lost myself in servitude to a partner in the past. I hope I don't again next time. I wish I'd just been more assertive and done what your wife suggests which is just go and do the things you want to do.

But on the other hand if you want to leave her due to this lifestyle making you unhappy then tell her that.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/10/2024 19:33

Songbird54321 · 18/10/2024 18:30

What will you gain by leaving that you don't have now? You will still be solely responsible for a household as you will be alone and you won't have her there to do any of these things with at any point in the future.
You can do all the things you want to do without leaving her, albeit still alone or with friends/family.
I get the feeling it's past that though, that it's the way she makes you feel? And if you feel you'd be happier alone, then yes, you should probably leave. It's not necessarily that you will be practically better off, but emotionally better off.
Unfortunately only you can make this decision.
An honest conversation with your wife is much needed here. She may well think you're bluffing in order to 'get your way'. You just need to sure you aren't.

He could also probably quite easily find a new girlfriend who wants to and is able to spend time with him

Jucko · 18/10/2024 19:34

No kids…..No Brainer

BotterMon · 18/10/2024 19:34

Just tell her you can't do this anymore. If she won't change her work life to save her marriage, it tells you where her priorities are which, I think, you already know. You are, like many women, being taken for granted and facilitating her work life. She doesn't need to change her focus as you're there to pick up the domestic pieces.

Life is too short to be so unhappy in a relationship.

AcrossthePond55 · 18/10/2024 19:34

@ExasperatedHusband

I'll tell you the same as I'd tell a female. If you aren't happy, leave. Leave before you're tempted to cheat, leave with your dignity intact.

You say you still love her, but love is not enough. Marriage takes work and both partners have to be equally involved and have their priorities aligned. It sounds to me as if she is placing her career above her marriage, but that is her right. I'm not saying it IS right, just that she has the right to order her life the way she wants, as do you. You want someone who makes the marriage a priority.

If you aren't quite 'there' yet as far as divorcing, then (once again) tell her that things aren't working for you 'as is' and that you want both of you to go to marriage counseling. If she refuses and/or says things are 'fine as is', then you have your answer. And remember that marriage counseling can also be used to 'uncouple' so that both people move on in a peaceful way.

localnotail · 18/10/2024 19:35

I really do feel for you. I can imagine it must be very lonely, practically being single while being married.

I think you need to talk to her and give her an ultimatum. Either she scales down her career, and spends more time with you, or you two are going separate ways.

I do wonder though - what is she running away from with this crazy working schedule? It would be fine for a young lawyer who is getting established in their career, but as you get older and more experienced I'm sure you have a degree of choice - whether to work all hours or not. What is her final goal? You have no kids, both work so must be well off - what is all this for, if you cant even enjoy it together?

R053 · 18/10/2024 19:35

I would start personal counselling (which can be converted to marriage counselling) and put your wife on notice that you are preparing to leave the relationship but are open to working with the therapist to improve the relationship. It’s time to show through actions that you are quite serious about this. If she does not set aside time to save her marriage then you have your answer.

GivingitToGod · 18/10/2024 19:36

DoYouReally · 18/10/2024 18:52

Taking 6 months off seems excess but leaving that aside.

Is she aware that her marraige is at risk?
Is she going to partner and that excessive workload will reduce over time?
Would she consider being an in-house lawyer working more regular hours?

Does she actually want to save your marraige?

Spot on and very important questions

Peachy2005 · 18/10/2024 19:36

Couples counselling (urgently) has to be your last-ditch attempt if you both still love each other - tbh it sounds doubtful she would actually turn up…but then you would have your answer and you would at least have made the attempt. Also tell her this is the last chance to save the marriage, if she somehow doesn’t know.

sorry 😢

K8ate · 18/10/2024 19:36

StillAtTheRestaurant · 18/10/2024 18:28

Sorry, you took six months out from running your business to deal with one domestic issue?
I would love to hear your wife's side of the story.

Her side of the story is that she couldn’t even be bothered to turn up for his surgery…….

Next.

THisbackwithavengeance · 18/10/2024 19:40

I actually feel for your DW.

I wonder how you would feel if she sat at home all day, or did a "little job" for pin money. You say you don't care about money? Mm. Your wife's big income allowed you to set up your own business in slow time and take 6 months off when you had another priority.

I would ask the same if the sexes were reversed. In fact it irritates the hell out of me when the SAHM complains about her hard working DH. I think "come on love, when you're a single mother with a FT job and have to do everything around the house and take care of a child alone, you'll be hankering back to your old life".

Presumably you knew her occupation when you got together?

I'm sure if you divorce her, you'll do well out of it in any case. 😏

notquitetonedeaf · 18/10/2024 19:43

PlantHeadNo5 · 18/10/2024 19:31

The refusal to collect you after your operation kind of told you it all.

You have no kids. You can either ask her for counselling, but to be honest you’ve asked her to change and she hasn’t. I think I’d be packing my bags.

I agree. I have a friend who was going in for quite significant surgery, and who had to organise their own collection (by a colleague!) from hospital, as well as people to do the childcare and school run. Their partner did nothing.
Marriage is fundamentally about mutual support. If there is no mutual support, there is no marriage.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/10/2024 19:44

THisbackwithavengeance · 18/10/2024 19:40

I actually feel for your DW.

I wonder how you would feel if she sat at home all day, or did a "little job" for pin money. You say you don't care about money? Mm. Your wife's big income allowed you to set up your own business in slow time and take 6 months off when you had another priority.

I would ask the same if the sexes were reversed. In fact it irritates the hell out of me when the SAHM complains about her hard working DH. I think "come on love, when you're a single mother with a FT job and have to do everything around the house and take care of a child alone, you'll be hankering back to your old life".

Presumably you knew her occupation when you got together?

I'm sure if you divorce her, you'll do well out of it in any case. 😏

Sahm are looking after children. This man doesn't have any children.

Member869894 · 18/10/2024 19:44

I'm a lawyer and have lost relationships through the job; it does tend to suck you in.
That said, she does sound as though she cares more about her job than you. I think an honest chat with her and then a plan to leave is the way to go as there is nothing lonelier than being in a bad relationship.
I do wonder how one earth you had to spend 6 months dealing with one issue. She would have supported you financially through that and perhaps feels resentful?