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Domestic violence from neighbour- need help!

180 replies

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 13:19

I’ve had an ongoing nightmare saga with an ex-convict neighbour who has been abusing his gf, mum and pretty much everyone around him for years. I have PTSD from an abusive childhood so this has been a nightmare situation for me.

Over the years I’ve been in contact with the landlord, the police, the safer neighbourhoods police team, local councillors and MPs- reported his nuisance noise to the council etc. This man seems untouchable.

The other day he was violently physically attacking his gf and they were having an extreme argument. We called police. He shouts at them the whole time, swears at them, also tells them they can’t come into his flat (they agree for some reason!) and they speak to him at an open door and speak to the gf downstairs in the communal area.

She defends him, says it’s actually us who are always fighting (lol), and for some reason officers are happy with this and leave. Keep in mind this man was in prison for a masked attack on a family that he carried out with other men. He’s had people show up with machetes outside our flat, he threatened kill his daughters bf and police came to take her away - even then he swore at them, told them not to come into his flat and they didn’t. He wasn’t arrested, wasn’t questioned.

It’s been a few days since this incident now but his door has been open for the past 3 days and a buzzing alarm going off every morning. Zero noise or movement from his flat, unsure if he’s even in there or not.

This situation has ground me down and I don’t even want to be involved now but can’t tell if we’re in danger or need to do something more. We are moving in 3 months but have nowhere to stay until then, I don’t know what to do honestly. An ambulance was here for him a few weeks ago too and he came back in a hospital gown so I’m sort of wondering if there’s been a medical event.

OP posts:
Dotto · 18/10/2024 16:46

I'm not sure what difference 6 days with door open and silence, vs 3 days with door open and silence makes though, if you are scared of him catching you OP?

MightSoundCrassButItsFactual · 18/10/2024 16:51

The police has eventually to enter his flat exactly to check out why he is so adamant they shouldn't enter

Bodeganights · 18/10/2024 16:51

Dotto · 18/10/2024 16:33

Yes do look after yourself first and foremost, but I'd want my mind at rest ASAP that any dead body had been removed from above me. Someone has either died or become incapacitated in the flat or close by.

Edited

Or arrested while out or taken ill and to hospital or done a flit or been kidnapped et al.

BlackToes · 18/10/2024 16:52

Some people suggesting going into the flat yourself 🤣. Yes without permission just wander into the private home of a seriously violent threatening thug who has been in prison and aggressive towards you 🤣

The police undertake welfare checks for this purpose. The housing association would also be a good call.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 18/10/2024 17:00

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 16:33

By making a phone call?
How is that risking your safety?

She has already explained she is terrified of him he is a VIOLENT man. Read her comments.

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 17:08

ThatRareUmberJoker · 18/10/2024 17:00

She has already explained she is terrified of him he is a VIOLENT man. Read her comments.

And making an anonymous phone call to police for a welfare check isn't going to threaten her safety is it.

KidneyBeanie · 18/10/2024 17:09

That’s understandable about waiting until Monday OP as you are scared of his reaction. Good luck with the move and count down the days!

PrueRamsay · 18/10/2024 17:10

I can understand your reluctance to flag it up at this stage. Keeping yourself safe has to be a priority.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 18/10/2024 17:15

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 17:08

And making an anonymous phone call to police for a welfare check isn't going to threaten her safety is it.

He would know it's her there's no other neighbour on the floor. He has already threatened her partner. The op owes her neighbour nothing and she shouldn't be made to feel guilty because you won't be there to help the situation if he returns.

Normallynumb · 18/10/2024 17:18

I'm really sorry you have to put up with this for another 3 weeks
As the buzzing is bothering you I would report to the police.
They should've informed the landlord who would've given permission to secure
Hopefully he's been charged and remanded with something and won't be back for 3 months
He's put you through a living hell
Legally you have a right of quiet enjoyment in your property.

Normallynumb · 18/10/2024 17:21

By the way I'm not suggesting a welfare check Just the unsecured door
And as for taking a bar of chocolate round checking he's ok!!! WTF He's known to be violent

greatvisuals · 18/10/2024 17:22

Order a cheap takeaway to there to see what happens

NotSoHotMess24 · 18/10/2024 17:27

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 15:59

Why won't you ring the police for a welfare check then? Let them deal with it.

Edited

Read the thread, it's all explained.

CheltenhamLady · 18/10/2024 17:27

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 17:08

And making an anonymous phone call to police for a welfare check isn't going to threaten her safety is it.

Well, it could do if he decides it was her/her partner who phoned them. Given that only she and her partner are living in a position to know the door is wide open, it may not be too difficult to deduce!

OhDearMuriel · 18/10/2024 17:29

You owe him nothing.

If the dangerous violent nutter is dead, so be it.

Protect yourself at all costs.

30percent · 18/10/2024 17:29

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 17:08

And making an anonymous phone call to police for a welfare check isn't going to threaten her safety is it.

Shes already explained that it's only her flat and his flat on the top floor so he will almost certainly know it was her. Why the hell should she put her safety at risk

Ordering a takeaway there is actually a good idea @greatvisuals

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 17:32

Postman, delivery man?
Someone who wandered in?

CowboyJoanna · 18/10/2024 17:44

OhDearMuriel · 18/10/2024 17:29

You owe him nothing.

If the dangerous violent nutter is dead, so be it.

Protect yourself at all costs.

This.

OP you need to keep yourself and the kids safe. Sod him.

WiddlinDiddlin · 18/10/2024 17:44

So lets say its actually his partner or mum or whatever, lying up there dying and no one does anything and he comes back having got out of hospital where he's been for a week... and he's all aggro because 'you knew something was wrong and you did nothing'...

There is no easy win here. I'd get the police to come round and if questioned, state the landlord was concerned.

sandyhappypeople · 18/10/2024 17:44

Have you told the landlord his door is wide open? He may want to come and make sure everything is okay in there, or try to contact the tenant himself.

I'm not sure what leaving it another few days will do to be honest, he's obviously not in there for whatever reason and he's gone somewhere or he's dead in there.

wayfairer · 18/10/2024 17:59

You can make an anonymous report online using crimestoppers website

Hakunatomato · 18/10/2024 18:22

Why bother reporting it on Monday, it’s no threat to you if his door is open. There’s no noise that disturbs you, just leave it.

MinPinSins · 18/10/2024 18:28

I've worked in homelessness, housing guys like this, and would bet that he's done a flit. The door was propped open because he may have made multiple trips to a car with his belongings. He left it open because once he's got everything he cares about out, he doesn't give a shit.

As for why, he sounds incredibly paranoid, which is reason enough - or maybe he had got on the wrong side of someone who was able to fight back.

If he had just died at home, it doesn't explain why he was in there with the door open in the first place.

Janesuperbrain · 18/10/2024 18:48

Nchanged89 · 18/10/2024 16:33

By making a phone call?
How is that risking your safety?

Well it’s the aftermath of the phone call isn’t it 🙄 He’s a dodgy fella, who knows what paraphernalia or illegal things he’s hiding in the flat. He’ll probably see op’s concern in instigating a welfare check as an attack on his freedom.

Bodeganights · 18/10/2024 18:49

mumda · 18/10/2024 14:12

Police welfare check. Explain in brief you don't want him to know that it was you and they will do their best.

OP has already stated she is the only other flat up there, it would be super obvious who had called the police unless she pretends to be his mother or gf.

And the police dont have a great record of doing there job even ok, let alone well enough to be certain they wont let on who reported it. Talking from experience here.

Then OP says he is paranoid, paranoid people can go to extreme lengths to prove whatever they believe at any given time. So if he believes that OP is just there to end him, this might be a part of his paranoia, a game if you like to see if OP takes the bait.
OP should keep herself safe, fuck the violent ex con.