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Domestic violence from neighbour- need help!

180 replies

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 13:19

I’ve had an ongoing nightmare saga with an ex-convict neighbour who has been abusing his gf, mum and pretty much everyone around him for years. I have PTSD from an abusive childhood so this has been a nightmare situation for me.

Over the years I’ve been in contact with the landlord, the police, the safer neighbourhoods police team, local councillors and MPs- reported his nuisance noise to the council etc. This man seems untouchable.

The other day he was violently physically attacking his gf and they were having an extreme argument. We called police. He shouts at them the whole time, swears at them, also tells them they can’t come into his flat (they agree for some reason!) and they speak to him at an open door and speak to the gf downstairs in the communal area.

She defends him, says it’s actually us who are always fighting (lol), and for some reason officers are happy with this and leave. Keep in mind this man was in prison for a masked attack on a family that he carried out with other men. He’s had people show up with machetes outside our flat, he threatened kill his daughters bf and police came to take her away - even then he swore at them, told them not to come into his flat and they didn’t. He wasn’t arrested, wasn’t questioned.

It’s been a few days since this incident now but his door has been open for the past 3 days and a buzzing alarm going off every morning. Zero noise or movement from his flat, unsure if he’s even in there or not.

This situation has ground me down and I don’t even want to be involved now but can’t tell if we’re in danger or need to do something more. We are moving in 3 months but have nowhere to stay until then, I don’t know what to do honestly. An ambulance was here for him a few weeks ago too and he came back in a hospital gown so I’m sort of wondering if there’s been a medical event.

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Lwrenn · 18/10/2024 14:47

Out of sheer nosiness and not remotely concern I'd have to just go and knock 😂
"Dave! You alive pal? No? Excellent news!"

If you smell decomposition I think we've solved the case.
If you don't then maybe crank the heating on and hopefully you will in 24 hours 😁

I know I sound evil but I really despise it when nice and good People have to live with these antisocial fuckers, it's so unfair.

RJnomore1 · 18/10/2024 14:48

If you’re that worried about getting involved in any way plus the door being open, pull it shut?

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 18/10/2024 14:50

Singleandproud · 18/10/2024 13:28

You cannot leave this a few more days, he could be lying there dead. Just ring the police now and they'll prioritise it. They won't say it was you.

Probably best to leave it, just to be sure then 🤫

greylamp · 18/10/2024 14:51

Bodeganights · 18/10/2024 13:29

If he is dead,another few days wont make any difference, he'll be just as dead on Sunday.

😂

quoque · 18/10/2024 14:52

I'd probably call the police and ask them to do a welfare check. Explain what you've just said - that he was taken to hospital a couple of weeks ago, came home, but now the flat door is open and his alarm has been ringing etc. and that this is highly out of character for him, as he is normally very concerned for his own safety etc.

Yes he could be dead in there, but he also could be DYING in there, which is worse.

wizzywig · 18/10/2024 14:53

maybe he is in prison?

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 14:54

It’s possible, I’ve heard him on the phone months and months ago saying he was going back to prison and he said “they’re gunna kill me in there”. But idk if that was paranoia or if he actually is going back. He hasn’t been arrested here that’s for sure

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quoque · 18/10/2024 14:58

If he's in prison, the police will presumably know, and can come and secure the flat or tell the council - he'll lose the flat if he's prison.

HowToSaveAWife · 18/10/2024 15:02

Can you pop your head around the door? If the flat looks like it's been trashed then I'd phone police for a welfare check. If not then I'd leave it a few days then phone the landlord and say you're concerned you can hear dripping water or something and the door has been open for days etc.

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 15:03

HowToSaveAWife · 18/10/2024 15:02

Can you pop your head around the door? If the flat looks like it's been trashed then I'd phone police for a welfare check. If not then I'd leave it a few days then phone the landlord and say you're concerned you can hear dripping water or something and the door has been open for days etc.

All we can really see is the stairwell in his flat and a closed bedroom door

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SiobhanSharpe · 18/10/2024 15:03

This rang a bell and I see you posted about him in June too. You have my sincere sympathies, bad neighbours are the very worst and yours sounds at the extreme end.
Can you write to the housing association giving all the details of the problems you and your neighbours have had with him? They may or may not do much but at least it will be on record for any future possible action, with the latest problem included.
I have read that HAs can and do evict people for anti social behaviour, especially when criminal acts are involved like threats to kill.
But it sounds as if your neighbour is seriously mentally unwell, paranoid and violent, I wonder if that is why he was previously in hospital and why the police seem to be treating him with kid gloves. Or have the HA placed him there as a 'halfway-house' or safe place after coming out of prison? The police will know about that.

Whatever the situation write and tell your HA all about what's going on.

HowToSaveAWife · 18/10/2024 15:07

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 15:03

All we can really see is the stairwell in his flat and a closed bedroom door

Well then if nothing seems untoward and you don't smell death... Leave it a few days and phone the landlord.

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 15:07

SiobhanSharpe · 18/10/2024 15:03

This rang a bell and I see you posted about him in June too. You have my sincere sympathies, bad neighbours are the very worst and yours sounds at the extreme end.
Can you write to the housing association giving all the details of the problems you and your neighbours have had with him? They may or may not do much but at least it will be on record for any future possible action, with the latest problem included.
I have read that HAs can and do evict people for anti social behaviour, especially when criminal acts are involved like threats to kill.
But it sounds as if your neighbour is seriously mentally unwell, paranoid and violent, I wonder if that is why he was previously in hospital and why the police seem to be treating him with kid gloves. Or have the HA placed him there as a 'halfway-house' or safe place after coming out of prison? The police will know about that.

Whatever the situation write and tell your HA all about what's going on.

He came straight from prison to here unfortunately. We’ve been documenting and sending things to the landlord for over 6 years now, they don’t care. We got the housing ombudsman involved who ordered them to clear our rent arrears so we can move.

They don’t follow their own anti-social behaviour policy at all and seem intent on pushing mediation services even when the person is a violent criminal. It’s been an utter nightmare!

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Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 15:10

SiobhanSharpe · 18/10/2024 15:03

This rang a bell and I see you posted about him in June too. You have my sincere sympathies, bad neighbours are the very worst and yours sounds at the extreme end.
Can you write to the housing association giving all the details of the problems you and your neighbours have had with him? They may or may not do much but at least it will be on record for any future possible action, with the latest problem included.
I have read that HAs can and do evict people for anti social behaviour, especially when criminal acts are involved like threats to kill.
But it sounds as if your neighbour is seriously mentally unwell, paranoid and violent, I wonder if that is why he was previously in hospital and why the police seem to be treating him with kid gloves. Or have the HA placed him there as a 'halfway-house' or safe place after coming out of prison? The police will know about that.

Whatever the situation write and tell your HA all about what's going on.

The hospital stay was a physical issue although no clue what. We heard him moaning in pain and then saw him going into an ambulance, he was doubled over and holding his stomach. He came back later that day in a hospital gown

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Hakunatomato · 18/10/2024 15:10

Are his lights on at night?

Jewelanemone · 18/10/2024 15:11

Bodeganights · 18/10/2024 13:29

If he is dead,another few days wont make any difference, he'll be just as dead on Sunday.

But smellier.

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 15:11

Hakunatomato · 18/10/2024 15:10

Are his lights on at night?

All lights are off. There’s zero sound, if he was moving up there we’d hear bc we can hear literally everything when someone’s in

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Hakunatomato · 18/10/2024 15:13

Report it to the police now then. He’s not going to be sitting in the dark. Who knows if his girlfriend or mother isn’t lying injured up there, and he has fled the scene?

DeedlessIndeed · 18/10/2024 15:16

Hakunatomato · 18/10/2024 15:13

Report it to the police now then. He’s not going to be sitting in the dark. Who knows if his girlfriend or mother isn’t lying injured up there, and he has fled the scene?

True. OP might not care about the man, but he could have fled after seriously injuring someone else.

DreamyCyanFinch · 18/10/2024 15:18

Can you go and stay with a friend for a few days to get away from the buzzing sound?
Use some sort of noise canceling noise, so you don't hear it?
I had a problem with noisey neighbours, but it seems to have got a bit better at the moment.
Can you use a snoozeband to sleep?
Keep looking forward to the 3 month mark when you're moving.

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 15:24

DeedlessIndeed · 18/10/2024 15:16

True. OP might not care about the man, but he could have fled after seriously injuring someone else.

We would have heard it. We could hear everything incredibly clearly when he attacked his girlfriend

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StrongTea · 18/10/2024 15:27

Report it now, if he has collapsed he might die by Monday. Police can secure the flat.

tattygrl · 18/10/2024 15:29

To be honest I think the possibility that there is someone in the flat unresponsive or unable to move/make a noise means you should report this now. I know you say you would definitely have heard any violent altercation, but you just never know. You might have been asleep or out. It could have happened quietly. I think really a welfare check needs to be done before Monday.

Hakunatomato · 18/10/2024 15:33

Leave it till Monday then.

Queenofheaven · 18/10/2024 15:33

tattygrl · 18/10/2024 15:29

To be honest I think the possibility that there is someone in the flat unresponsive or unable to move/make a noise means you should report this now. I know you say you would definitely have heard any violent altercation, but you just never know. You might have been asleep or out. It could have happened quietly. I think really a welfare check needs to be done before Monday.

Me and my partner both work from home, there was definitely no violent interaction and I have trouble sleeping due to the neighbour stress and ptsd so am usually awake in the night anyway. Tbh I’m hesitant to get anymore involved unless we smell something or it goes on a certain length of time bc he’s erratic and bizarre, he could be up to anything.

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