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Dating guy whose "wife was shot dead"

511 replies

Beautifulbouquet · 15/10/2024 15:37

For a month I've been casually seeing someone.

He is quite hard work in general.

This weekend he told me that his wife was shot and killed in Afghanistan where she was a marine.

Having looked this up...this seems impossible. A tiny number of British female soldiers were killed in Afghanistan and all deaths are documented on the government website and seem widely reported in the media.

It seems this is a very bizarre lie.

Or I'm losing my sanity.

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WomenInConstruction · 15/10/2024 17:43

I worked with a fantasist once who claimed he was a fully trained samurai warrior.
I think it was bruised ego from not being a very talented or popular person and I'm sure there were feelings of inadequacy at the root of it.
I felt for him, because no one happy does that. Maybe he'd been taunted for his mediocrity instead of being accepted as a basically nice human.. who knows.
But, you can't get tangled in that messy psychology as you never know how twisted it deep it runs.

ShinyShona · 15/10/2024 17:43

He's probably lying but... but...

Everyone here is assuming she was a British marine. US marines were in Afghanistan, something like a tenth of US marines are women and some were killed in the conflict.

tothelefttotheleft · 15/10/2024 17:44

Flatbellyfella · 15/10/2024 16:17

I know an ex soldier who claims to have been a long range sniper , but when his regiment was sent out to peace keeping in Bosnia , he was a conscientious objector & stayed in the UK .

Can you really be a soldier AND a conscientious objector?

RowdyTiel · 15/10/2024 17:45

The absolute best thing you can do is to grey rock him. Make up a reason that makes it look you’re being kind ‘the death of your wife sounds so traumatic and devastating that I just don’t think I could deal with that longer term as I’m not ready to provide that support and you deserve that, but thanks for being honest’ etc

That's a great idea actually

Attelina · 15/10/2024 17:48

Stolen valour even if it isn't about himself is abhorrent.

Get this vile man out of your life .

Whyherewego · 15/10/2024 17:50

Look you've got yourself into to a wierd situation with him but I think you can exit gracefully. I sort of went too far with a guy and knew instantly it was a mistake. So I just said by text " hey I've had a bit of a think about things and I'm just not ready for a relationship at the moment. I'm really sorry but it's just clear to me that I'm not ready for that level of commitment. Am going to head back to therapy I think! Best of luck for the future. Take care"
Along those, could that work?

nmnmn · 15/10/2024 17:50

Disturbing. Good luck ending it OP x

CautiousLurker · 15/10/2024 17:51

thereitgoes · 15/10/2024 17:39

Re ending it by text tonight - I follow a lady on instagram called alittlenudge who does dating advice. She has a script for ending things after a couple of dates which I have used and which works well. Look her up but it's essentially - "Thanks for a fun evening. I've been thinking since our last date and unfortunately I'm not feeling the romantic connection I'm looking for. It's been really lovely getting to know you and I wish you all the best" tailored to fit your circs. And then don't engage any further.

I think this is the best route - not mentioning his odd lies or anything specific that could bruise his ego too much. But also not an excuse or anything he can try to argue back with.

This sounds truthful, too? After all OP has found him quite ‘difficult’.

I second/third this route!

SophiaCohle · 15/10/2024 17:52

Don't berate yourself. Fantasists can be surprisingly plausible because they believe their lies themselves, and when you're a normal person who doesn't tell outrageous lies yourself why would you question them?

My first husband claimed to have been in the US Army Special Forces. He was definitely ex-army because I saw some of the paperwork, but he lied about what a particular designation meant and I believed him. Why wouldn't I? It was pre-internet and I had no way of checking, and he was a liked and respected member of our community etc etc. But it was wearing because he was very paranoid about the army's 'hold' over him because of 'the things he'd had to do', and every time something good happened he'd insist the army had sorted it for him/us behind the scenes and that they'd 'call in the favour' eventually. When pressed, it seemed he was worried about being called back in to service to assassinate someone. That was around the time I woke up to what a pile of baloney it was. I was very young tbf.

I divorced him in the end and he claimed he couldn't sign the papers because he'd had a brain aneurysm. Fortunately, he was allowed to sign an X in the presence of an attorney. I thought it was another pack of lies but it turned out to be true in fact, so you do never know.

I would tell your man that actually you don't want to rush things, then hope for a new ultimatum and fail to deliver. I think I might go and stay with a friend until it blows over too. Don't confront him.

Gigihadid · 15/10/2024 17:55

Beautifulbouquet · 15/10/2024 16:58

Yes. If I'd let him block me id be in a better situation.

He wouldn’t have blocked you, he’d have found a way to make you feel guilty but persist with his goal in making you “his partner”.

Attelina · 15/10/2024 17:57

Hi Anthony, It's been interesting to have crossed paths but I don’t think our connection is what I’m really looking for right now.

Hi Anthony, It was nice meeting up with you, but I don’t think we have enough in common to be compatible long-term, which is really what I’m looking for now.

Hi Anthony, I have a lot going on right now and just need to focus on myself. Thanks for understanding!

Hi Anthony, it’s been a while since I’ve been on a dates with someone and it made me realise I’m not ready to see anyone on a regular basis. Best wishes.

Ramblomatic · 15/10/2024 17:59

Best way to end this would be to tell him that you're a government assassin who was sent over to Afghanistan to shoot a female marine suspected of being a double agent 🤷🏻‍♂️

LightSpeeds · 15/10/2024 18:01

He sounds like a psycho

AgathaKrispie · 15/10/2024 18:03

Please stop saying you are stupid, people like this manipulate and reel you in.

You've been smart enough to work him out, so good luck with kicking him to the kerb (or preferably the sea)!

Terrribletwos · 15/10/2024 18:03

RowdyTiel · 15/10/2024 17:45

The absolute best thing you can do is to grey rock him. Make up a reason that makes it look you’re being kind ‘the death of your wife sounds so traumatic and devastating that I just don’t think I could deal with that longer term as I’m not ready to provide that support and you deserve that, but thanks for being honest’ etc

That's a great idea actually

Yes, that is a good idea. Keep yourself safe.

leia24 · 15/10/2024 18:04

He does sound mental. Send him a message like Hi, it's been great getting to know each other. Unfortunately I've realised I'm not looking for a relationship as I don't have the time.
If he becomes persistent send one message saying 'please don't contact me again' and if he continues report to Police. Don't respond to anything else and don't let him drag you into any conversation.
Don't bother requesting a DVDS you won't get one if you're ending things with him and you already know he's batshit crazy anyway.
Lock your doors and windows, make sure your phone is charged, consider Hollie Guard if he becomes a problem.

Clarabell77 · 15/10/2024 18:05

Watch “love rats” on Netflix. And dump him now.

CheekyHobson · 15/10/2024 18:06

Whyherewego · 15/10/2024 17:50

Look you've got yourself into to a wierd situation with him but I think you can exit gracefully. I sort of went too far with a guy and knew instantly it was a mistake. So I just said by text " hey I've had a bit of a think about things and I'm just not ready for a relationship at the moment. I'm really sorry but it's just clear to me that I'm not ready for that level of commitment. Am going to head back to therapy I think! Best of luck for the future. Take care"
Along those, could that work?

I think this is the way to go! Just say you felt under pressure to make a decision the other night and now that you've had time to reflect you realise you're not up for a serious relationship right now so best if you go your separate ways.

Beautifulbouquet · 15/10/2024 18:07

NearingendofMJ · 15/10/2024 17:42

I unfortunately met someone a few years ago who said he’d been involved in a bombing in Afghanistan (was in the army) that caused him severe injuries, also detailed information about the people that died in that blast that all turned out to be totally fabricated. That person turned out to be a pathological liar and also potentially dangerous as I later found out he had been watching me at home (whilst pretending to be working abroad…)

The absolute best thing you can do is to grey rock him. Make up a reason that makes it look you’re being kind ‘the death of your wife sounds so traumatic and devastating that I just don’t think I could deal with that longer term as I’m not ready to provide that support and you deserve that, but thanks for being honest’ etc

Make him believe you believe the story but it just wouldn’t be fair to continue and withdraw. Men like him will turn nasty when ridiculed or dealt a narcissistic injury to feelings.

I managed to shake off this mother of all losers by pretending to believe the stories and turning it back on how he’s an amazing person and deserves someone that can really support him which isn’t me and he eventually fucked off - although he’ll give the off nudge by text every year or so and I’m truly scared of what he’s capable of so am polite and finish the conversation- whixh is what you’ll have to do if lives near you 🤦‍♀️

This is brilliant advice.

Sorry for what you went through.

He lives close. Small village. One pub. Its worth me taking 24 hours or so to get this right as I need to cut the dating and friendship off entirely whilst doing it in a way that doesn't provoke him.

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Mirabai · 15/10/2024 18:08

Xpost: question answered. Steer clear in a polite but firm way.

RosaMoline · 15/10/2024 18:08

OP: please update us once you’ve done the deed. Good luck.
Pre - mumsnet, I dated 2 liars. I only wish I’d been on this forum then. Their lies weren’t as dramatic as in your case, but they’d lied about being abusive (claimed they were the victims) I know different now. Take care x

Beautifulbouquet · 15/10/2024 18:09

Ramblomatic · 15/10/2024 17:59

Best way to end this would be to tell him that you're a government assassin who was sent over to Afghanistan to shoot a female marine suspected of being a double agent 🤷🏻‍♂️

You guys do make me laugh.

Thank you xx

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 15/10/2024 18:12

banality101 · 15/10/2024 16:51

He's just a little muppet with no prospects who lives in a bed sit and probably sits at home having a pot noodle and a wank whilst texting women telling them he's an ex marine. Don't be intimidated by him or feel that you have to placate him or let him down gently. If he starts harassing you, call the police.

I would probably tell him that I'm done because he's a sad little Walter Mitty and not to contact me again. That, or tell him that I'm actually an assassin and too busy with contracts to fulfil to carry on seeing him.

I can remember a fella in the news fairly recently who made a whole lie up about working in M15. Absolute fruitcake. Very unpleasant to partners.
This one must be short on ideas as he hasn’t even concocted a decent story.

Biscuits247 · 15/10/2024 18:13

Beautifulbouquet · 15/10/2024 16:22

I'm just going to be honest in response to this even though I know I will get a lot of criticism

The other night he texted me out of the blue and insisted I either become his "partner" or he'd block me forever.

I went round to try and have a sensible conversation with him.

He told me about this dead wife and I agreed to be his partner

Even though that's not even a term I use and I don't know him

I have been so so stupid

So the motivation was to get me to feel sorry gor him

I have been so stupid

Sorry this is all just sinking in

So you're classing his emotional blackmail call out as a date??? This is the point at which YOU should have blocked him.

After blocking him please get therapy.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 15/10/2024 18:13

OP I think the fact that you live in a small village might be helpful? I know it’s a pain if he is nearby but hopefully it’s a decent community where you are amongst friends.

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