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3.5 years later and he’s leaving his wife…

525 replies

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 19:51

A few years ago I had an affair with a MM. I was single, met him at a vulnerable time having escaped an abusive relationship. He supported me financially and helped me rebuild my life, and at the time I selfishly was focused on trying to survive and that’s it really. I lost everything leaving my ex and was starting from scratch. It was supposed to be an arrangement that worked for us both mutually.

We totally fell for each other. It was totally unplanned and unexpected and I was blindsided by it. I guess his wife noticed a change in him, and after nearly a year she found out. Part of me was relieved because I was finding it hard and obviously did not feel good about what I was doing. But it devastated my life. He tossed me aside like I was nothing. Said he had to stay for his kids. I was so badly affected I was hospitalised twice with severe anxiety. I had felt so deeply that he loved me so it was completely horrific. He still contacted me without her knowing from time to time despite trying to ‘reconcile’ with his wife. Mostly to say he was powerless in the situation and she was threatening to take the kids. I wasn’t the only woman he’d cheated with. He’d been doing it for years but had never been found out. He said he was very good at ‘compartmentalising’ until then, apparently.

Anyway. He stopped contacting me but continued stalking me online for over a year. I eventually confronted him. He admitted he loved me. Apologised for doing it and thought I hadn’t realised. Said he regretted marrying her. It was only for the kids. I said I had to block him and he didn’t want me to but understood. I did so but only on SM, not his phone.

So life carried on, I had been rebuilding my life and retrained in a whole new career. Rebuilt my finances after being financially abused by my ex. It’s been hell and the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I’m finally in a good place. New home, new job. Lovely housemates. I objectively know he’s been a shit. But there was not a day that went by I didn’t think of him. The whole thing was totally incongruous to who he was as a person, or thought he was, but yet he still did it. I have never been able to get my head around it.

So anyway. Over three years later and he has gotten in touch, and said they are separating. He wants to meet and I have no idea what to do. On one hand, he nearly destroyed me by doing what he did. I know objectively he is completely flawed as a person. On the other hand I have never felt for anyone the way I felt about him and it felt mutual. Aspects of his marriage seemed abusive to me and very similar to what I went through, but I’m aware I don’t know the whole picture. This is what I’ve seen - not what he told me.

I’m so torn as to whether to leave it alone or meet up and hear him out. I don’t want to compromise what I’ve built but also don’t want to regret it.

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again. My whole life has changed. I have sacrificed so much and had to face the abuse I suffered not just from my ex but from my childhood. I am not even the same person and usually this would mean he means nothing to me because I’ve evolved beyond it, but part of me still loves him. It’s not limerance or a trauma bond, it’s been years now, but still something I have never been able to shake despite seeing him for who he is and what he’s done.

Would appreciate thoughts. Is he just an inherently bad person? I know what I did was wrong but I did everything I could to better myself and make sure I wasn’t in that situation again. I don’t know if he’s done the same.

OP posts:
Chillimuma · 26/09/2024 20:41

Do you know what? Reading your updates it sounds like you’re gonna do it anyway. He has no morals and is disgusting, you sound no better so actually you’re a perfect match.

go meet up with him, you deserve everything coming for you

CheekyHobson · 26/09/2024 20:41

He tossed me aside like I was nothing.

Yep. Just like he's done to his wife, just like he did to the other women he cheated with and probably told similar pretty stories to.

You'd be crazy to think you'll get a happy ending from a relationship with this guy.

121Diet · 26/09/2024 20:41

Let us know how it goes. Come here for support when you realize he has fooled you again

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/09/2024 20:41

yes he an abuser, you know this. Not all abusers are stereotypical thug. They can present complicated, layered,well enunciated,charismatic. He wrecked your mental health. Stalked you.

currently You have made such big achievement and are in a safe stable place. You have made a different life after 2 abusive relationships- well done you

he creates what ifs as you have shared past,he know how to ingratiate himself to you. He know what to do

Radionowhere · 26/09/2024 20:41

LilBatFaceGal · 26/09/2024 20:08

Oh I'm sure they are separating. That'll be true however it will be her finishing their marriage and not the other way round

And I'm sure he is wealthy etc and doesn't need you for a roof over his head. I'm also prepared to believe that he's very fond of you etc

All of those things are probably true

What's also true is that this is a man who will not be faithful to any woman. And what's also true is that you will be his 'any port in a storm' so he's tapping you up as he fancies a spot of excitement in his life again plus you're a known bet

And make no mistake here - if you go down this road again (which you will - I can sense it!) we will see you back here shortly, with another thread, where you've lost all the self respect you've built up for yourself because you couldn't do the right thing by yourself and tell him to fuck off

Absolutely this. You sound incredibly naive OP.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:41

TomatoSandwiches · 26/09/2024 20:40

You were a vulnerable person and he took advantage of that..... this man is a creep, you can not trust a word out of his lying, cheating mouth.

Why are you giving this piece of shit any time thinking about?

He IS abusive op he is just a different kind of abusive, give your silly head a big fucking wobble for your own sake!

Edited

Thank you, I know, and I know I need to hear it.

OP posts:
BobTheBobcatsBob · 26/09/2024 20:42

Before you do anything, think about what you know about his character. He's a man who has repeatedly cheated on his wife with a number of women. He's a man who put sex with other women over his children's happiness. He's a man who preyed on a vulnerable woman who was trying to escape an abusive relationship. He's a man who continued to pine after the other woman when he was supposed to be putting the effort into mending his relationship...honestly the list goes on and on. He is not someone who can offer you anything other than distrust, heartache and a complete waste of your precious time. No good will come from contacting this man or allowing him back into your life.

Stepusername · 26/09/2024 20:43

What would your future be like with him if you did work out as a couple long-term?
His ex knows you were an affair partner and could tell his children, family and friends - that could make all those relationships difficult. Would you ever be fully accepted into his life?
How would you feel knowing that he will continue to cheat in the future? He might not start cheating right away and he might not choose to leave you (he stayed with his ex). Could you live happily knowing that was most likely going on in the background?
Is a deep connection is enough to build a happy life in those circumstances? I'm not sure it would last.

Newsenmum · 26/09/2024 20:43

Can you seriously imagine having a proper, grown up (and healthy) relationship with this man. He will really mess you up.

Newsenmum · 26/09/2024 20:44

He will also talk about you like he did his wife. You’ve moved on and you’re better and he wants to drag you back down.

Lightdarkshade · 26/09/2024 20:44

Stay away. Abusive self entered wankers somehow make you feel like they're great loved because they generate so much pain. Get away!

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 26/09/2024 20:44

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again

you've done a lot of work, financially, career wise, sorting your shit out & well done for that.

I get that you feel you still love him, that he rescued you & all the rest. I understand you'd like to feel how he made you feel in the beginning & I feel sorry for how much this is hurting you.

But honestly, seeing him will ONLY lead you into a downward spiral.

i Understand the feeling of 'but you don't know him, I do' and thinking he's 'different/special' and no one understands!'

I didn't listen when I was younger...
still not sure I'm listening now to be honest. For very different reasons I'm in a relationship that's going to end up ending & hurting so much but can't bring myself to end it until it has to end. despite friends telling me I should.

so maybe you won't 'listen' to my post either...

all I can say is I understand how you feel, but by staying away from him completely you can keep going forwards in life & not enter a very bad downhill spiral.

listen to your HEAD you KNOW this is a bad idea. Tell your HEART to shut up until you move forward.

look after yourself x

IhateSPSS · 26/09/2024 20:44

He might not be a 'bad person' but he isn't a healed person who can emotionally regulate and not be defined by whatever shit show he's dragging himself, his kids and his ex wife to be through.

I am recovered from trauma, I rebuilt my life from scratch too, just like you. I wouldn't ever, ever contemplate giving up that hard won recovery and healing for someone who is a bin fire. The fact that he's even put this on to the table, presumably knowing how you've got your shit together now, shows how little he cares for you. If he truly loved and cared for you he'd leave you alone until the bin fire was out.

Cosycover · 26/09/2024 20:44

Hes probably been caught cheating again and his wife has had enough.

He didn't want you. And is clutching at straws now. Sorry to be blunt but it's true. He's a dick.

Belle82 · 26/09/2024 20:44

You cheated with a married man & yours was the life whose was ruined. How do you think his wife felt when she found out.

You refer to him as an inherently bad person but you knew he was married so you are no better.

My dad cheated and broke up our family so I don’t have any sympathy for the “other woman”

PinkyFlamingo · 26/09/2024 20:45

I'm.sorry I have little sympathy for you. My DH of 25 years has just left me after an affair completely out of the blue and I'm devastated. Everything I have ever believed about myself, him and our marriage and kids has been thrown back in my face. I could be here all night telling you the damage it's caused me and my kids.
You knew he was married. It doesn't matter how "vulnerable" etc you said you were you knew he was married so it was 50/50. I think I was quite vulnerable when confronted with all my DHs lies.
Go with him you deserve each other.

berksandbeyond · 26/09/2024 20:45

I think you should go for it.

It’ll be poetic justice for his poor ex wife when he cheats on you too!

Dontbeme · 26/09/2024 20:45

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:28

No… I saw some pretty horrific stuff first hand. He still didn’t leave though which speaks volumes I know. But then I also didn’t leave my ex for years.

So you're friends with the wife, or know these people through work or whatever but close enough to them both to see the wife being horrific to him? How could you be so close to the situation and lie to her face everyday?

Babbadoobabbadock · 26/09/2024 20:46

I have no sympathy for skanks who knowingly shag married men.
Hes an utter disgrace, cheating, lying cunt but you had a choice - his wife didn’t

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/09/2024 20:47

IhateSPSS · 26/09/2024 20:44

He might not be a 'bad person' but he isn't a healed person who can emotionally regulate and not be defined by whatever shit show he's dragging himself, his kids and his ex wife to be through.

I am recovered from trauma, I rebuilt my life from scratch too, just like you. I wouldn't ever, ever contemplate giving up that hard won recovery and healing for someone who is a bin fire. The fact that he's even put this on to the table, presumably knowing how you've got your shit together now, shows how little he cares for you. If he truly loved and cared for you he'd leave you alone until the bin fire was out.

Spot on post, to the pointAnd authentic because you get it.
well done on your achievements you come across really sensible

PinkyFlamingo · 26/09/2024 20:47

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:40

I did stop making bad choices. I know I have changed. I don’t think he has, so I guess that’s partly the issue.

it is not ‘who I am’. I know it is easier for people to demonise me but reality is life is more nuanced than that.

I'm not demonising you. The reality isn't "nuanced" you had an affair with a married man that's quite simple .

Chickadoo · 26/09/2024 20:48

Let's face it, you're going to meet up with him. You wouldn't be trying to convince yourself 'he's not all bad' if you weren't.

I mean, I could understand this if it was just you he cheated on his wife with and then declared his love... it's true, some people do marry the wrong people and regret it. However, you said he has cheated on her multiple times? This doesn't make you special.

Terrribletwos · 26/09/2024 20:49

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:36

It’s not a given I’m going to reply. If this had happened a year ago I would have been over the moon.

I’m not now. I’m literally so confused as to why I am even questioning it when I know from anyone else I wouldn’t even entertain the idea. I know logically why I was vulnerable to it and attracted to him and childhood trauma etc etc etc. so not sure why I still wonder what if. I don’t understand.

Why would you have been over the moon if it happened a year ago?

Overthinking22 · 26/09/2024 20:49

What's the saying, "when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

He's shown you his true colours already....

inneedofaglowup · 26/09/2024 20:50

He betrayed his wife with you. He'll betray you with the next one.