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3.5 years later and he’s leaving his wife…

525 replies

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 19:51

A few years ago I had an affair with a MM. I was single, met him at a vulnerable time having escaped an abusive relationship. He supported me financially and helped me rebuild my life, and at the time I selfishly was focused on trying to survive and that’s it really. I lost everything leaving my ex and was starting from scratch. It was supposed to be an arrangement that worked for us both mutually.

We totally fell for each other. It was totally unplanned and unexpected and I was blindsided by it. I guess his wife noticed a change in him, and after nearly a year she found out. Part of me was relieved because I was finding it hard and obviously did not feel good about what I was doing. But it devastated my life. He tossed me aside like I was nothing. Said he had to stay for his kids. I was so badly affected I was hospitalised twice with severe anxiety. I had felt so deeply that he loved me so it was completely horrific. He still contacted me without her knowing from time to time despite trying to ‘reconcile’ with his wife. Mostly to say he was powerless in the situation and she was threatening to take the kids. I wasn’t the only woman he’d cheated with. He’d been doing it for years but had never been found out. He said he was very good at ‘compartmentalising’ until then, apparently.

Anyway. He stopped contacting me but continued stalking me online for over a year. I eventually confronted him. He admitted he loved me. Apologised for doing it and thought I hadn’t realised. Said he regretted marrying her. It was only for the kids. I said I had to block him and he didn’t want me to but understood. I did so but only on SM, not his phone.

So life carried on, I had been rebuilding my life and retrained in a whole new career. Rebuilt my finances after being financially abused by my ex. It’s been hell and the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I’m finally in a good place. New home, new job. Lovely housemates. I objectively know he’s been a shit. But there was not a day that went by I didn’t think of him. The whole thing was totally incongruous to who he was as a person, or thought he was, but yet he still did it. I have never been able to get my head around it.

So anyway. Over three years later and he has gotten in touch, and said they are separating. He wants to meet and I have no idea what to do. On one hand, he nearly destroyed me by doing what he did. I know objectively he is completely flawed as a person. On the other hand I have never felt for anyone the way I felt about him and it felt mutual. Aspects of his marriage seemed abusive to me and very similar to what I went through, but I’m aware I don’t know the whole picture. This is what I’ve seen - not what he told me.

I’m so torn as to whether to leave it alone or meet up and hear him out. I don’t want to compromise what I’ve built but also don’t want to regret it.

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again. My whole life has changed. I have sacrificed so much and had to face the abuse I suffered not just from my ex but from my childhood. I am not even the same person and usually this would mean he means nothing to me because I’ve evolved beyond it, but part of me still loves him. It’s not limerance or a trauma bond, it’s been years now, but still something I have never been able to shake despite seeing him for who he is and what he’s done.

Would appreciate thoughts. Is he just an inherently bad person? I know what I did was wrong but I did everything I could to better myself and make sure I wasn’t in that situation again. I don’t know if he’s done the same.

OP posts:
Herewegoagain84 · 26/09/2024 20:32

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:31

I guess you’ve never been in a bad place in your life and made bad choices, ever.

Yes but the fact you’ve recognised it was a bad choice, yet you’re about to do it again says that this is you - not the circumstances you were in at the time.

Losingmymind85 · 26/09/2024 20:32

Have you made your mind up? Your responses indicate that you have.
There is absolutely nothing to be gained by meeting him, a d potentially you stand to lose everything you've built. Don't get sucked back in on a memory of love. The reality of it was he messed you and his wife about. Good people dont do that. Having an affair with only you COULD be explainable in certain circumstances (but never forgivable in my opinion), but he's done it loads
He told you. He's shown who he is so listen to him.
He may love you. You may love him. But there's no trust and nothing to be gained by letting him back in.

S0CKPUPPET · 26/09/2024 20:33

Bestyearever2024 · 26/09/2024 19:55

Wait for the decree absolute and financial settlement to be sorted

Then consider him

Trust me, neither will happen

This. He needs to end his marriage properly and establish his life as a single adult first. get counselling, work out what he wasn’t faithful to his wife, do the work .

Then you can get together with him if you want and see how it works out.

Burntout101 · 26/09/2024 20:33

It's a no from me.

2chocolateoranges · 26/09/2024 20:33

Don’t go back to him. He’s cheated on his wife numerous times and he’d do the same to you.

tell him to fuck off!

pizzaHeart · 26/09/2024 20:34

Lorelaigilmore88 · 26/09/2024 19:55

Leave him well alone. If he wanted you he would have left his wife when she first found out. She's probably left him and he's got no one else.

This^

Herewegoagain84 · 26/09/2024 20:35

These threads get so boring - literally everyone is yelling don’t do it - you have clearly made up your mind. We’ll all look forward to the inevitable post that will follow relating to the fact he never left his wife / he’s still cheating etc etc etc, and you’ll act all surprised like you never saw it coming 😴

ExquisiteEmelda · 26/09/2024 20:35

Have some bloody self respect. Why would you want to be with this despicable man who has treated his wife this way? (I won’t mention the way you treated her as well 😡)

Dweetfidilove · 26/09/2024 20:35

Nap1983 · 26/09/2024 19:53

Tell him to fuck off… his wife's probably left him after years of cheating, dont be the next fool.

Pretty much this. Entertaining him will be the undoing of all the good work you've done to be where you are now.

Head back to counselling if you must, but don't let him in.

Chessfan · 26/09/2024 20:35

He needs to fuck off, and you need to stop romanticising this. He's just a sneaky, slimy weasel, sniffing round you to see what he can get because he's bored, needs an ego boost, wants to get his rocks off, or something similar.

He's a nasty liar and abusive, pathetic little man. You've been through some nasty abuse yourself in your childhood and with your ex, and if he had ANY respect for you, which he does not, he would leave you the hell alone. This guy doesn't respect ANYONE btw, including himself.

Whatever you feel for him, it's just a romanticised version of who you've created in your head, not a real person, because he's just a loser and a twat and you can easily do better. Easily. Block him on all platforms and start over. It'll be nothing but disappointment, miserable drama, disrespect, more lies and more heartbreak if you entertain a minute of this rubbish again. You still have some work to do on recognising red flags, boundaries, and all that.

Good luck. Please stay away from the little moron.

BellesAndGraces · 26/09/2024 20:35

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:31

I guess you’ve never been in a bad place in your life and made bad choices, ever.

I absolutely have made terrible choices. I’m human and so are you. But at some point you have to either stop making bad choices or accept that it might actually just be who you are.You didn’t care about this man’s wife and child a few years ago and I can’t see that you care about them now.

Fleaspray · 26/09/2024 20:36

Almost certainly he’s messaged loads of other women saying exactly the same thing - he’s only just realised how much he loves them, he’s finally leaving his wife…

Bet the reality is that she’s had enough of the cheating prick and is getting rid, and he’s now looking for any port in a storm.

Block him. He’s a dick.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:36

It’s not a given I’m going to reply. If this had happened a year ago I would have been over the moon.

I’m not now. I’m literally so confused as to why I am even questioning it when I know from anyone else I wouldn’t even entertain the idea. I know logically why I was vulnerable to it and attracted to him and childhood trauma etc etc etc. so not sure why I still wonder what if. I don’t understand.

OP posts:
ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 26/09/2024 20:36

I would also say that his wife has done some pretty terrible things to him.

All of which you know from him alone?

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 26/09/2024 20:36

You do realise that even if he does leave her for you, he'll almost certainly cheat on you, right? You might claim that cheating 'isn't you', but it certainly is him. It's clearly just what he does. Why you'd want to be with a man like that, now that you are supposedly in a good place, god knows. He's a piece of shit. Anyone could see that.

Chillimuma · 26/09/2024 20:37

I doubt his wife was abusive.

i bet he also told you she was crazy / cold / frigid / they never had sex

same bull shit. Only married her for the kids sake, yeah bull the other one.

he’s a piece of shit OP

whathashapoenednow · 26/09/2024 20:37

You know your going to go meet him
Let us know how it goes

MayaPinion · 26/09/2024 20:38

She has kicked him out, probably after she found out about the lover who came after you. This man is a cheat and a liar. If he loved you that much he wouldn’t have waited 3.5 years. He just needs a new bed warmer.

121Diet · 26/09/2024 20:38

Separating is married. You love the drama and learn the hard way. You still need to learn. It's going to be tough again . He is a liar.

kittensinthekitchen · 26/09/2024 20:38

The woman posting about it was always 'vulnerable' isn't she? Always a victim.

Never just some skank with no morals.

MaggieLynn · 26/09/2024 20:39

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:36

It’s not a given I’m going to reply. If this had happened a year ago I would have been over the moon.

I’m not now. I’m literally so confused as to why I am even questioning it when I know from anyone else I wouldn’t even entertain the idea. I know logically why I was vulnerable to it and attracted to him and childhood trauma etc etc etc. so not sure why I still wonder what if. I don’t understand.

Post by post you are distancing yourself from taking responsibility for what you are about to do.
Everyone has advised you to run, but you know what you're going to do.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 26/09/2024 20:39

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:36

It’s not a given I’m going to reply. If this had happened a year ago I would have been over the moon.

I’m not now. I’m literally so confused as to why I am even questioning it when I know from anyone else I wouldn’t even entertain the idea. I know logically why I was vulnerable to it and attracted to him and childhood trauma etc etc etc. so not sure why I still wonder what if. I don’t understand.

Don't waste time wondering why. Just actually pull yourself together and do what you know is the right thing to do. All this 'shall I shan't I, I know I shouldn't but why do I still want to' nonsense is just a way of getting to carry on talking about him and thinking about him and allowing him to still have a hold on you.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:40

BellesAndGraces · 26/09/2024 20:35

I absolutely have made terrible choices. I’m human and so are you. But at some point you have to either stop making bad choices or accept that it might actually just be who you are.You didn’t care about this man’s wife and child a few years ago and I can’t see that you care about them now.

I did stop making bad choices. I know I have changed. I don’t think he has, so I guess that’s partly the issue.

it is not ‘who I am’. I know it is easier for people to demonise me but reality is life is more nuanced than that.

OP posts:
TomatoSandwiches · 26/09/2024 20:40

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:26

I guess the thing I am worried about is that he is also an abuser. With my ex I knew what he was. This man was the opposite and yet potentially not. It’s terrible.

he never pretended to me when we were seeing eachother he would leave her. He never strung me along and at the time the situation suited me, until it didn’t.

You were a vulnerable person and he took advantage of that..... this man is a creep, you can not trust a word out of his lying, cheating mouth.

Why are you giving this piece of shit any time thinking about?

He IS abusive op he is just a different kind of abusive, give your silly head a big fucking wobble for your own sake!

AGoingConcern · 26/09/2024 20:41

OP, he’s a serial cheater. He didn’t cheat with you because you’re the one true love of his life and you were soulmates who just met at the wrong time, he cheated with you and a series of other women because cheating makes him feel good.

Every bit of info you have tells you that he will continue to cheat. Do not knowingly choose to be the one he cheats on moving forward.