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3.5 years later and he’s leaving his wife…

525 replies

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 19:51

A few years ago I had an affair with a MM. I was single, met him at a vulnerable time having escaped an abusive relationship. He supported me financially and helped me rebuild my life, and at the time I selfishly was focused on trying to survive and that’s it really. I lost everything leaving my ex and was starting from scratch. It was supposed to be an arrangement that worked for us both mutually.

We totally fell for each other. It was totally unplanned and unexpected and I was blindsided by it. I guess his wife noticed a change in him, and after nearly a year she found out. Part of me was relieved because I was finding it hard and obviously did not feel good about what I was doing. But it devastated my life. He tossed me aside like I was nothing. Said he had to stay for his kids. I was so badly affected I was hospitalised twice with severe anxiety. I had felt so deeply that he loved me so it was completely horrific. He still contacted me without her knowing from time to time despite trying to ‘reconcile’ with his wife. Mostly to say he was powerless in the situation and she was threatening to take the kids. I wasn’t the only woman he’d cheated with. He’d been doing it for years but had never been found out. He said he was very good at ‘compartmentalising’ until then, apparently.

Anyway. He stopped contacting me but continued stalking me online for over a year. I eventually confronted him. He admitted he loved me. Apologised for doing it and thought I hadn’t realised. Said he regretted marrying her. It was only for the kids. I said I had to block him and he didn’t want me to but understood. I did so but only on SM, not his phone.

So life carried on, I had been rebuilding my life and retrained in a whole new career. Rebuilt my finances after being financially abused by my ex. It’s been hell and the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I’m finally in a good place. New home, new job. Lovely housemates. I objectively know he’s been a shit. But there was not a day that went by I didn’t think of him. The whole thing was totally incongruous to who he was as a person, or thought he was, but yet he still did it. I have never been able to get my head around it.

So anyway. Over three years later and he has gotten in touch, and said they are separating. He wants to meet and I have no idea what to do. On one hand, he nearly destroyed me by doing what he did. I know objectively he is completely flawed as a person. On the other hand I have never felt for anyone the way I felt about him and it felt mutual. Aspects of his marriage seemed abusive to me and very similar to what I went through, but I’m aware I don’t know the whole picture. This is what I’ve seen - not what he told me.

I’m so torn as to whether to leave it alone or meet up and hear him out. I don’t want to compromise what I’ve built but also don’t want to regret it.

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again. My whole life has changed. I have sacrificed so much and had to face the abuse I suffered not just from my ex but from my childhood. I am not even the same person and usually this would mean he means nothing to me because I’ve evolved beyond it, but part of me still loves him. It’s not limerance or a trauma bond, it’s been years now, but still something I have never been able to shake despite seeing him for who he is and what he’s done.

Would appreciate thoughts. Is he just an inherently bad person? I know what I did was wrong but I did everything I could to better myself and make sure I wasn’t in that situation again. I don’t know if he’s done the same.

OP posts:
Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:04

AnneLovesGilbert · 26/09/2024 20:00

Where’s he living? What chance he’s after a free roof over his head?

He’s not you’re happily ever after. I’d stay well away tbh. If you’ve really made all the changes you think you have you won’t want to be dragged back into this mess.

Fwiw I think you’ll ignore the advice on here and meet up with him and then shag him, keep seeing him and let him stay over. You’ll then end up with him but you won’t trust him or he’ll go back to her. But no one can be sure.

He is very wealthy and not after free accommodation. Equally I am now in a much better position.

I met him when I was in a very vulnerable place in my life. There is no way I would meet him and sleep with him. It’s not who I am, and what happened is not reflective of who I really am. So I guess my question is whether that can possibly
also be true for him. Or if I’m kidding myself.

logically I know he is bad news. Part of me, despite all the healing and the work, wonders. I don’t know why. Maybe because I never had closure and he didn’t allow that until I confronted him. I don’t know.

he could have contacted me any time in the last few years to ‘pretend’ they were separating and he hasn’t, so I have no reason to believe that isn’t true. I would obviously verify if I needed to but haven’t even responded yet.

OP posts:
Oblomov24 · 26/09/2024 20:04

Please tell us you aren't this stupid. Have you been having counselling to repair your self esteem?

Pumpkinpie1 · 26/09/2024 20:05

Lots of me me me in your post OP . It’s your EX fault, your married lover , his kids , his wife but never you.

SauviGone · 26/09/2024 20:06

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again.

Nowhere near enough work on yourself if you're even vaguely considering meeting up with him again.

You'll know exactly when you've done enough work on yourself - You'd be in this situation and your first and only thought would be to block him.

This man will destroy you.

LostOnTheWayToManderley · 26/09/2024 20:06

This may sound harsh but I don’t think you’ve rebuilt yourself as completely as you make out. You left the door open to him by not blocking him everywhere - you didn’t block his phone.

You can be reeled back in because you’ve kept yourself on his hook. And that’s a massive shame. That’s more years of your life you’ve wasted on him.

You deserve better.

Babbadoobabbadock · 26/09/2024 20:06

You didn’t give a fuck about his wife, she’s the victim in all this.

2k2j · 26/09/2024 20:06

Fucking hell. What a prize twat he sounds.

Ignore the message. You’d be mad to meet up with this loser.

He wasn’t abused by his wife. He’s manipulated you into thinking that.

LostOnTheWayToManderley · 26/09/2024 20:07

Cross posted with @SauviGone who I completely agree with.

Userofcoffee · 26/09/2024 20:07

Some serious girl code violation OP.

Poor wife in all of this.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:08

Pumpkinpie1 · 26/09/2024 20:05

Lots of me me me in your post OP . It’s your EX fault, your married lover , his kids , his wife but never you.

I didn’t really say it was anyone’s ‘fault’. I gave some context and explained how I’d worked hard to make sure it didn’t happen again.

I queried if he’d done the same. If he’d really faced up to everything my guess is he would have actually started telling the truth (rather than ‘pretending’ to reconcile) even if it meant her leaving him from the outset.

OP posts:
juicelooseabootthishoose · 26/09/2024 20:08

'They are separating' says it all.

Not 'we have separated. Ive sorted my head out for a year. Divorce goes through later this
Month. Kids have been my priority'

He doesn't want a cold bed for even a weekend.

Hes hedging his bets and wants the next one lined up. Or a crutch to get through his divorce

Personally id not meet up. But if you do. Say to contact you to arrange that only after the divorce is complete. His reaction and respect for your position will say a lot

LilBatFaceGal · 26/09/2024 20:08

Oh I'm sure they are separating. That'll be true however it will be her finishing their marriage and not the other way round

And I'm sure he is wealthy etc and doesn't need you for a roof over his head. I'm also prepared to believe that he's very fond of you etc

All of those things are probably true

What's also true is that this is a man who will not be faithful to any woman. And what's also true is that you will be his 'any port in a storm' so he's tapping you up as he fancies a spot of excitement in his life again plus you're a known bet

And make no mistake here - if you go down this road again (which you will - I can sense it!) we will see you back here shortly, with another thread, where you've lost all the self respect you've built up for yourself because you couldn't do the right thing by yourself and tell him to fuck off

minipie · 26/09/2024 20:08

There is no way I would meet him and sleep with him. It’s not who I am, and what happened is not reflective of who I really am. So I guess my question is whether that can possibly
also be true for him. Or if I’m kidding myself.

If you’re not interested in meeting him and sleeping with him then why do you care what he is like?

Block him properly and move along.

MintyNew · 26/09/2024 20:08

Babbadoobabbadock · 26/09/2024 20:06

You didn’t give a fuck about his wife, she’s the victim in all this.

Exactly, only one victim here. You were just as bad as him. If you really picked up your morals and self respect then why are you even asking this?

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 26/09/2024 20:10

Shaking my head with one, OP.
I think you still see him as the white knight who saved you. The One That Got Away.
I wanted to weep reading your words - you have been through so much. You are clearly very bright.
But you have rebuilt your life after abuse.
You already know this man is an abuser. He may not be as ‘bad’ as your last abuser, but abuse you he will.
You have a good career and financial security you can build on.
Do you want to exchange that for a man who will certainly take all that from you? Who will soon get bored of you once you are ‘the wife’ and go off and obsess over another woman/women.
He knows your weak spots and is trying to play you like a fiddle. If he actually cared for you he would leave you in peace to live, knowing what you have been through before.
This man has left a trail of destruction behind him and will continue to do the same.
Don’t become his next victim because getting yourself out for a second time will be harder.
I feel very passionate having seen someone return to an abusive relationship after everyone around the person moved heaven and earth to get out.
You can find love again in time.
Don’t choose to be abused again.

coldcallerbaiter · 26/09/2024 20:12

He is wealthy- oh I wondered what you saw in him and were willing to break a marriage up over, predictable….

Blackberriesandcobwebs · 26/09/2024 20:13

So his DW has finally had enough and he's leafing his way through his little black book for some guilt free action because he thinks you're still soft on him?
Have higher standards OP. Block him!

Odiebay · 26/09/2024 20:13

You need to get some therapy to work on yourself. This man is scum. Hes wanting sex and somewhere to stay for someone to probably do his washing, cook his food and look after him.

Just block and ignore him. He should not be a dating candidate for you and you need to get therapy to see why he is to you.

Mrsttcno1 · 26/09/2024 20:13

Don’t be naive OP. You’re not better than his wife OP, you’re just a few years behind her. If you let him back into your life then you don’t get to come crying in a few years time when he’s cheating on you as well.

MaggieLynn · 26/09/2024 20:13

He's very wealthy... say no more.

GarrynotsoGorilla · 26/09/2024 20:14

Ok, a guy's view here... And one who hasn't always made the right choices in life. My advice? Block and stay away. He doesn't love you, and hasn't. He "rescued" you when you were down, but used that to get into your life. Then when things got tough for him he legged it. Leaving you broken and alone. If he really loves you he would have left his wife when he got found out before, if not before that. Don't be his doormat, be proud of where you are now and what you have achieved and find a man deserving of yourself.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:14

MintyNew · 26/09/2024 20:08

Exactly, only one victim here. You were just as bad as him. If you really picked up your morals and self respect then why are you even asking this?

Life isn’t always as black and white as it is on Mumsnet. I have hardly played the victim. I have done everything possible to make sure I am never in a position where I would even have considered this. I have taken responsibility in my part but equally I wasn’t the one who was married.

I was being selfish. I was in a desperate situation. It was my choice. I wouldn’t do it again.

OP posts:
teatimeplease · 26/09/2024 20:14

He would have felt like that about his wife I've upon a time and look how he's treated her. He will do the same to you.

If he's cheated consistently with multiple people on the mother of his children, he will do the same to you.

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/09/2024 20:14

Babbadoobabbadock · 26/09/2024 20:06

You didn’t give a fuck about his wife, she’s the victim in all this.

And the children.

While he was spending family money bailing out his affair partner.

What a Prince.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 26/09/2024 20:15

I was the wife in this scenario. It screwed up my children, my son in particular. I have no sympathy when you are clearly considering meeting him. What do you want from us? Seal of approval? You won't get it from me. My ex husband was a total bastard along with the woman he left us for -twice.