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3.5 years later and he’s leaving his wife…

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Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 19:51

A few years ago I had an affair with a MM. I was single, met him at a vulnerable time having escaped an abusive relationship. He supported me financially and helped me rebuild my life, and at the time I selfishly was focused on trying to survive and that’s it really. I lost everything leaving my ex and was starting from scratch. It was supposed to be an arrangement that worked for us both mutually.

We totally fell for each other. It was totally unplanned and unexpected and I was blindsided by it. I guess his wife noticed a change in him, and after nearly a year she found out. Part of me was relieved because I was finding it hard and obviously did not feel good about what I was doing. But it devastated my life. He tossed me aside like I was nothing. Said he had to stay for his kids. I was so badly affected I was hospitalised twice with severe anxiety. I had felt so deeply that he loved me so it was completely horrific. He still contacted me without her knowing from time to time despite trying to ‘reconcile’ with his wife. Mostly to say he was powerless in the situation and she was threatening to take the kids. I wasn’t the only woman he’d cheated with. He’d been doing it for years but had never been found out. He said he was very good at ‘compartmentalising’ until then, apparently.

Anyway. He stopped contacting me but continued stalking me online for over a year. I eventually confronted him. He admitted he loved me. Apologised for doing it and thought I hadn’t realised. Said he regretted marrying her. It was only for the kids. I said I had to block him and he didn’t want me to but understood. I did so but only on SM, not his phone.

So life carried on, I had been rebuilding my life and retrained in a whole new career. Rebuilt my finances after being financially abused by my ex. It’s been hell and the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I’m finally in a good place. New home, new job. Lovely housemates. I objectively know he’s been a shit. But there was not a day that went by I didn’t think of him. The whole thing was totally incongruous to who he was as a person, or thought he was, but yet he still did it. I have never been able to get my head around it.

So anyway. Over three years later and he has gotten in touch, and said they are separating. He wants to meet and I have no idea what to do. On one hand, he nearly destroyed me by doing what he did. I know objectively he is completely flawed as a person. On the other hand I have never felt for anyone the way I felt about him and it felt mutual. Aspects of his marriage seemed abusive to me and very similar to what I went through, but I’m aware I don’t know the whole picture. This is what I’ve seen - not what he told me.

I’m so torn as to whether to leave it alone or meet up and hear him out. I don’t want to compromise what I’ve built but also don’t want to regret it.

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again. My whole life has changed. I have sacrificed so much and had to face the abuse I suffered not just from my ex but from my childhood. I am not even the same person and usually this would mean he means nothing to me because I’ve evolved beyond it, but part of me still loves him. It’s not limerance or a trauma bond, it’s been years now, but still something I have never been able to shake despite seeing him for who he is and what he’s done.

Would appreciate thoughts. Is he just an inherently bad person? I know what I did was wrong but I did everything I could to better myself and make sure I wasn’t in that situation again. I don’t know if he’s done the same.

OP posts:
JumperStripes · 26/09/2024 20:16

I would guess that he didn’t fall for you (although you did for him) and that’s why he dumped you when his wife found out because he wanted her, to be with her and to continue their life together. His wife has now dumped him and he is putting out feelers to see who will boost his ego.

Terrribletwos · 26/09/2024 20:16

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:08

I didn’t really say it was anyone’s ‘fault’. I gave some context and explained how I’d worked hard to make sure it didn’t happen again.

I queried if he’d done the same. If he’d really faced up to everything my guess is he would have actually started telling the truth (rather than ‘pretending’ to reconcile) even if it meant her leaving him from the outset.

Bit confused here. What do you mean he pretended to reconcile?

bringslight · 26/09/2024 20:16

I think you should repent of what you've done, take the word love back and not even mention it and create a proper, clean, moral life with someone nice for yourself - both you and this man are cheaters and lacking any moral values or consideration what you both did to his wife and kids

PoachesPeaches · 26/09/2024 20:17

Don't do it.

Just say I would only consider a full divorce and then a solid period of time - at least six months preferably a couple of years after that. That should be your minimum standard regardless.

Please be emotionally mature.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:17

Terrribletwos · 26/09/2024 20:16

Bit confused here. What do you mean he pretended to reconcile?

Pretending to reconcile whilst still contacting me and looking me up. For over a year, until I stopped it.

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TomatoSandwiches · 26/09/2024 20:17

SauviGone · 26/09/2024 20:06

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again.

Nowhere near enough work on yourself if you're even vaguely considering meeting up with him again.

You'll know exactly when you've done enough work on yourself - You'd be in this situation and your first and only thought would be to block him.

This man will destroy you.

This, listen to this.

That man has no idea what love or respect is, don't be stupid.

Babbadoobabbadock · 26/09/2024 20:18

You clearly are considering doing it again as you’re thinking about meeting him. Go on then ….. but don’t expect sympathy when he treats you exactly as he treated his wife
Fucking stupid

AngelinaFibres · 26/09/2024 20:19

Bestyearever2024 · 26/09/2024 19:55

Wait for the decree absolute and financial settlement to be sorted

Then consider him

Trust me, neither will happen

This. Separating means nothing. Separated means nothing. Divorced, all finances sorted, marital home dealt with, children's access days dealt with and occurring consistently, then contact him if you wish. If any part of that list is missing then walk away.

Terrribletwos · 26/09/2024 20:19

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:17

Pretending to reconcile whilst still contacting me and looking me up. For over a year, until I stopped it.

Pretending to reconcile with his wife?

Shadesofscarlett · 26/09/2024 20:19

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:14

Life isn’t always as black and white as it is on Mumsnet. I have hardly played the victim. I have done everything possible to make sure I am never in a position where I would even have considered this. I have taken responsibility in my part but equally I wasn’t the one who was married.

I was being selfish. I was in a desperate situation. It was my choice. I wouldn’t do it again.

Done everything possible apart from blocking and forgetting about him?

redtrain123 · 26/09/2024 20:20

“…said they are separating”

So he’s not separated yet, or divorced. Guess his wife has chucked him out, and he’s looking for somewhere to live… .

Wonder his many affairs he’s had in the last three years. I guess his wife has found out about the latest one.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:20

bringslight · 26/09/2024 20:16

I think you should repent of what you've done, take the word love back and not even mention it and create a proper, clean, moral life with someone nice for yourself - both you and this man are cheaters and lacking any moral values or consideration what you both did to his wife and kids

I didn’t cheat on anyone. I would also say that his wife has done some pretty terrible things to him. That doesn’t absolve him, but things can be more complicated than first appears.

I don’t lack moral values. I did a stupid and selfish thing in a desperate situation and have made sure I’m never in that situation again.

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greenwoodentablelegs · 26/09/2024 20:20

Move forwards - this guy is going backwards.

and probably you are a stop gap for him and could end up really fucked up again.

block and move on

HotSource · 26/09/2024 20:21

So let’s guess:

He’s been caught messing about again and his wife has finally thrown him out.

He is casting around for company, sex and an ego boost while he embarks on a lengthy aggro-ridden divorce in which his wife (I hope) will take him to the cleaners.

He. Does.Not.Love You.

If he did he would have recognised your vulnerability and been honest that he would not leave his life, and not kept you on his string. He would not have stayed in touch,

You still feel in your sensorial memory the distraction he was when you had escaped abuse. But it wasn’t a healthy healing thing, it was like comfort eating or drugs.

He is a liar, selfish and self interested. If you let him back in he will drag you back down .

MamOfGirls2 · 26/09/2024 20:21

I wouldn't meet him. You aren't the same person you once was. Move forward instead of backwards.

Cocostops · 26/09/2024 20:22

Why on earth are you even thinking about what to do?
BLOCK and don't look back 🚩

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:22

redtrain123 · 26/09/2024 20:20

“…said they are separating”

So he’s not separated yet, or divorced. Guess his wife has chucked him out, and he’s looking for somewhere to live… .

Wonder his many affairs he’s had in the last three years. I guess his wife has found out about the latest one.

She found out about me and he then confessed all of them and she stayed regardless.

he is not in need of a ‘warm bed’ or ‘somewhere to live’. I haven’t asked who split up with who. I haven’t even replied yet.

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Zone2NorthLondon · 26/09/2024 20:23

Reread your post. Your achievements, your hard work. Your journey out of 2 abusive relationships
He is an abuser, he stalked you. He wrecked your mental health. He cheated on his wife. Now, he thinks your still a soft touch and wants to weasel his way back into your life

NO NO NO

theleafandnotthetree · 26/09/2024 20:23

I hsd a similar dynamic with a guy who was probably a 'better' guy than yours and it what it led to was years of back and forth, still being hidden away, anguish, etc which ultimately led....absolutely nowhere. I recently ended what little was left of the relationship and am probably more cross with myself than him for wasting all those years when I could have been just living my life well and openly. I too never felt like that about anyone and probably never will, I am still mad about him really but love just isn't enough. It really isn't.

SometimesCalmPerson · 26/09/2024 20:24

He’s told you he’s separating, not that he is already separated. If he’s wealthy he stands to lose a lot in a divorce, but without a divorce he’s still not in a position to have a healthy relationship.

Lovemybunnies · 26/09/2024 20:24

I feel frightened for you reading this. Please don’t go back to him.

FrancisSeaton · 26/09/2024 20:24

So he's messed you and his wife about for many years he's cheated with other women and you feel he may be abusive?
Can you hear yourself?

Babbadoobabbadock · 26/09/2024 20:25

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 20:20

I didn’t cheat on anyone. I would also say that his wife has done some pretty terrible things to him. That doesn’t absolve him, but things can be more complicated than first appears.

I don’t lack moral values. I did a stupid and selfish thing in a desperate situation and have made sure I’m never in that situation again.

You were complicit in his abuse of his wife. No doubt he bleated on about how terrible his life with her was - bullshit. And you aren’t making sure you’re never in that situation again because you’re thinking about meeting up with him.
Stop lying to yourself
And ffs block him

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 26/09/2024 20:25

AnneLovesGilbert · 26/09/2024 20:00

Where’s he living? What chance he’s after a free roof over his head?

He’s not you’re happily ever after. I’d stay well away tbh. If you’ve really made all the changes you think you have you won’t want to be dragged back into this mess.

Fwiw I think you’ll ignore the advice on here and meet up with him and then shag him, keep seeing him and let him stay over. You’ll then end up with him but you won’t trust him or he’ll go back to her. But no one can be sure.

Fwiw I think you’ll ignore the advice on here and meet up with him and then shag him, keep seeing him and let him stay over.

Yes, it's quite likely unfortunately.

OP you've done really well to build yourself back up. If you use your common sense you will stay clear and won't get dragged down by him again.

Aquamarine1029 · 26/09/2024 20:25

I would also say that his wife has done some pretty terrible things to him.

Of course she has. Says him, the biggest liar in the universe.

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