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3.5 years later and he’s leaving his wife…

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Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 19:51

A few years ago I had an affair with a MM. I was single, met him at a vulnerable time having escaped an abusive relationship. He supported me financially and helped me rebuild my life, and at the time I selfishly was focused on trying to survive and that’s it really. I lost everything leaving my ex and was starting from scratch. It was supposed to be an arrangement that worked for us both mutually.

We totally fell for each other. It was totally unplanned and unexpected and I was blindsided by it. I guess his wife noticed a change in him, and after nearly a year she found out. Part of me was relieved because I was finding it hard and obviously did not feel good about what I was doing. But it devastated my life. He tossed me aside like I was nothing. Said he had to stay for his kids. I was so badly affected I was hospitalised twice with severe anxiety. I had felt so deeply that he loved me so it was completely horrific. He still contacted me without her knowing from time to time despite trying to ‘reconcile’ with his wife. Mostly to say he was powerless in the situation and she was threatening to take the kids. I wasn’t the only woman he’d cheated with. He’d been doing it for years but had never been found out. He said he was very good at ‘compartmentalising’ until then, apparently.

Anyway. He stopped contacting me but continued stalking me online for over a year. I eventually confronted him. He admitted he loved me. Apologised for doing it and thought I hadn’t realised. Said he regretted marrying her. It was only for the kids. I said I had to block him and he didn’t want me to but understood. I did so but only on SM, not his phone.

So life carried on, I had been rebuilding my life and retrained in a whole new career. Rebuilt my finances after being financially abused by my ex. It’s been hell and the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I’m finally in a good place. New home, new job. Lovely housemates. I objectively know he’s been a shit. But there was not a day that went by I didn’t think of him. The whole thing was totally incongruous to who he was as a person, or thought he was, but yet he still did it. I have never been able to get my head around it.

So anyway. Over three years later and he has gotten in touch, and said they are separating. He wants to meet and I have no idea what to do. On one hand, he nearly destroyed me by doing what he did. I know objectively he is completely flawed as a person. On the other hand I have never felt for anyone the way I felt about him and it felt mutual. Aspects of his marriage seemed abusive to me and very similar to what I went through, but I’m aware I don’t know the whole picture. This is what I’ve seen - not what he told me.

I’m so torn as to whether to leave it alone or meet up and hear him out. I don’t want to compromise what I’ve built but also don’t want to regret it.

I’ve done so much work on myself to make sure I am never in a similar situation with a man again. My whole life has changed. I have sacrificed so much and had to face the abuse I suffered not just from my ex but from my childhood. I am not even the same person and usually this would mean he means nothing to me because I’ve evolved beyond it, but part of me still loves him. It’s not limerance or a trauma bond, it’s been years now, but still something I have never been able to shake despite seeing him for who he is and what he’s done.

Would appreciate thoughts. Is he just an inherently bad person? I know what I did was wrong but I did everything I could to better myself and make sure I wasn’t in that situation again. I don’t know if he’s done the same.

OP posts:
Bee43 · 26/09/2024 21:41

BathSoak · 26/09/2024 21:21

Don’t care if you were hospitalised for anxiety you won’t get any sympathy from me you knew he was married. Now he’s bored single and wants a shag love

💯-, I have absolutely no sympathy for OP either.. His children’s lives have likely been obliterated due to his behaviour, she is more concerned for herself and how she felt and not his family. Being in an abusive relationship beforehand does not excuse her and his behaviour. She knew what she was doing.

helgel · 26/09/2024 21:41

I think he's 'unfinished business' OP, that's the problem you have.

If you go there, it'll end up as 'finished business' and your life will be a mess.

Good luck.

DreamTheMoors · 26/09/2024 21:41

I could never do that to another woman.
I respect them - and myself - far too much.
You should think about that @Jigglytuff26

What exactly did he tell you? That his wife was a bitch? A nag? That she never wanted sex any more? That she’d let herself go? That she’d drifted away? That they didn’t talk any more?
What bullshit did he feed you?
Or was it just for the money?
I’m thinking you weren’t upset enough to stop, and you weren’t wounded enough to not reconsider now.
You are not the victim in this drama.

gamerchick · 26/09/2024 21:41

Funny thing about time and working on yourself in it. You see those you used to be addicted to in a totally different light and find you don't have those feelz anymore.

He's a dick who treats women like shit. He's probably finding it harder to get laid these days so is travelling backwards.

Jl2014 · 26/09/2024 21:43

Tough one, OP. Life is complicated and not black and white. Good people do bad things and vice versa.

Is he just seeking you out as a crutch? Probably. I think that ultimately the issue is that you know with absolute certainty that when things are challenging in a relationship he will cheat. There are always challenges at some point. You weren’t the first and won’t be the last. If you take this leap of faith and see him again wouldn’t you be saddling yourself with that reality forever?

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 21:45

I don’t want that to drive my decision but I don’t know why I find it so hard to believe he is also terrible when even my own parents I have had to let go of. I could face up to that but not this. I don’t know why.

I wouldn’t say he’s terrible. I don’t know him. I would say that you must have done an awful lot of work to build yourself the stable, peaceful life you have now and it’s not worth risking that for someone who has lied, let you down and proven himself to be unreliable in the past. It sounds like a lot of drama you don’t need.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 21:47

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 21:45

I don’t want that to drive my decision but I don’t know why I find it so hard to believe he is also terrible when even my own parents I have had to let go of. I could face up to that but not this. I don’t know why.

I wouldn’t say he’s terrible. I don’t know him. I would say that you must have done an awful lot of work to build yourself the stable, peaceful life you have now and it’s not worth risking that for someone who has lied, let you down and proven himself to be unreliable in the past. It sounds like a lot of drama you don’t need.

I know. I’m sickened by it all and I don’t know why I am still so messed up in some way I am even considering it. Everyone else in my life I have been able to walk away from. I am just sick of doing it.

I have blocked him.

OP posts:
Edingril · 26/09/2024 21:52

Justifying it by using the over used 'vulnerable' does not make it any better, this is not a get out of responsibility card

He is getting away with because you let him and if he cheats on her he will cheat on you but if you want to be a another gullible statistic like thousands of others sure fall for it

ThorndonCream · 26/09/2024 21:52

It's not what people say that matters. It is what they do. He wasn't there for you when his wife found out and you were hospitalised. Then later while still married, he coldbloodedly lied to his wife about reconciling while secretly meeting you before you ended it.

He had lots of other affairs but yours was somehow "special" and different from all the other grubby ones that his wife didn't find out about because he is do good at "compartmentalising" ie being deceitful and lying. Imagine how his wife felt when she found out that the reconciling was just a ruse. If he is "separating" and that's a far more flexible word than "divorcing", she has probably caught him cheating again and chucked him out. His first thought is to find the person he had an affair with when she was in an emotionally vulnerable state because she might be available at short notice and he has suddenly discovered "he loves you". Maybe whoever the current affair partner is has come to their senses and left too.

Who in their right mind would think this was a good man or that seeing him again was a good idea? The only person this man truly loves is himself.

Zanatdy · 26/09/2024 21:53

Stay away from him OP. I guess not blocking him all this time has meant that there was always a chance of this happening. As tempting as it might be to go back there, don’t do it.

KarmaKat · 26/09/2024 21:55

I have been you. I have been in this position.

She has ended their relationship & he’s looking for the easiest option. I thought it was love, it wasn’t. It never really is.

If he cared. If he loved you. He wouldn’t have discarded you. Don’t let him do it again.

TENSsion · 26/09/2024 21:56

I think you’re still hanging on because he’s rich and you’re envisioning what your life would as his partner.

You know he’s a cheater so at this point you will get what you deserve depending on your action going forward.

I’m glad you’ve blocked him. I hope you remain resolute.

Pussycat22 · 26/09/2024 21:57

Nap1983, bang on too right!!!

CheekyHobson · 26/09/2024 21:58

Look, I understand it’s tempting to think that he’s changed, especially if you feel you’ve turned your life around after making bad choices.

But what do his actions tell you? His pattern is to use women to soothe his feelings when he is stressed instead of dealing with the things that are stressing him.

So what’s happening with him right now? He’s “separating” which seems unclear in the first place on whether he’s actually separated or just kind of has one foot out the door.

Do you think any person can run straight out of a complex and difficult long-term relationship into a brand new healthy one?

Of course not. As people have said upthread, a healthy response to divorce, especially when there has been abusive behavior present on one or both sides, is to take time alone to rebuild your independence, prioritize the children and spend time reflecting on where you went wrong.

He’s left absolutely no time to do this and believe me, the work won’t have been done inside of his marriage.

Instead he is calling up someone who he has repeatedly treated like trash in the past and painting a romantic picture of how you can start fresh together, as if such a thing is even possible for people who already have a complicated past together.

He’s still in his pattern. You can see he hasn’t changed. So you have your answer.

Weeteeny · 26/09/2024 21:59

He sounds like my ex husband. Serial cheat and liar. Lied to every extra marital affair partner told them he loved them whilst telling me the same. I overheard him on the phone after I had given him his marching orders telling his pal it was okay he would just fall back in with "Susan" failing that "sophie" amd if not "lorna".
Guaranteed that's what happened here, wife has come to her senses, poor woman and he is looking for some fool to take him on.
Dont be a fool again OP

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 21:59

I don’t know why I am still so messed up in some way I am even considering it

Being tempted to rekindle something that you know isn’t good for you is a pretty common experience. Don’t be too hard on yourself.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 22:00

TENSsion · 26/09/2024 21:56

I think you’re still hanging on because he’s rich and you’re envisioning what your life would as his partner.

You know he’s a cheater so at this point you will get what you deserve depending on your action going forward.

I’m glad you’ve blocked him. I hope you remain resolute.

Once upon a time maybe but ironically I am more qualified than he is. I’ve been set back given my history but if I work hard I know I can be successful.

i did have a fantasy of being rescued which I know is common following child abuse. This is one of the things I’ve been working hard to fix.

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Loub1987 · 26/09/2024 22:01

Don’t be a mug, he is clearly a bad person. I’m not saying your behaviour was great but you were in a vulnerable position and in my opinion he took advantage of that. Stay away, block him and enjoy the new life and success you have built.

He will undoubtedly bring you down.

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 22:02

We all carry a lot of baggage. You have a serious advantage over a lot of people in that you recognise your issues and you’re aware of how they can influence you. That’s more than half the battle.

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 22:03

ThorndonCream · 26/09/2024 21:52

It's not what people say that matters. It is what they do. He wasn't there for you when his wife found out and you were hospitalised. Then later while still married, he coldbloodedly lied to his wife about reconciling while secretly meeting you before you ended it.

He had lots of other affairs but yours was somehow "special" and different from all the other grubby ones that his wife didn't find out about because he is do good at "compartmentalising" ie being deceitful and lying. Imagine how his wife felt when she found out that the reconciling was just a ruse. If he is "separating" and that's a far more flexible word than "divorcing", she has probably caught him cheating again and chucked him out. His first thought is to find the person he had an affair with when she was in an emotionally vulnerable state because she might be available at short notice and he has suddenly discovered "he loves you". Maybe whoever the current affair partner is has come to their senses and left too.

Who in their right mind would think this was a good man or that seeing him again was a good idea? The only person this man truly loves is himself.

She never knew he was still contacting me after she found out. The ‘reconciliation’ was all a lie too. I might have had more respect if he’d finally been honest, but he probably thought if he wasn’t physically cheating it was fine.

he hasn’t suddenly said he loves me, he said that when I confronted him when he was still looking me up online etc.

OP posts:
DreadPirateRobots · 26/09/2024 22:04

He's afraid he won't have a hole to stick it in or anyone to wash his socks and you're a handy backup.

Tahlbias · 26/09/2024 22:04

A leopard never changes his spots. He's probably been cheating again and she's had enough and thrown him out and now he's contacting you again.

SavageTomato · 26/09/2024 22:06

Yes,he's inherently bad. Your words. Because you know it. He's an absolute cunt. Walk away right now.

Dhdidndnddn · 26/09/2024 22:08

My first thought was his wife kicked him out and he needs somewhere to stay.

My friend got with a married man. She is not a bad person at all, she was young and naive and fell in love and believed he was the one. He said he loved her, would eventually leave his wife. Wife was apparently soooo awful. He was staying cause of the kids. Shock - he didn’t leave his wife - still with her 10 years later but yeah she must be soooo awful. 😂😂

She ended it, would never made that mistake now. Now she’s married.

Stop with the self beating. You were single he wasn’t it lies with him. You’ve learned your lessons and you won’t get with a married man again. Move on with your life.

FrostFlowers2025 · 26/09/2024 22:08

Jigglytuff26 · 26/09/2024 21:47

I know. I’m sickened by it all and I don’t know why I am still so messed up in some way I am even considering it. Everyone else in my life I have been able to walk away from. I am just sick of doing it.

I have blocked him.

I am glad you blocked him.

I think he took advantage of you. You were very vulnerable and he love bombed you. The other women he cheated with were likely in a similar situation. He is a narcissist too, just a different kind from your ex. Unfortunately men like him hone in on women in bad situations, likely because they've had succes manipulating them before.

He's an asshole and I suspect his wife kicked him out and he now needs a place to stay. You're likely not the first side piece he contacted and won't be the last.

I am glad you're in a better place. If you are still struggling with how you feel about what happened with this man it would be good to talk it through with a therapist.