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Do they ever come back? Devastated. Following on. Endless winter.

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Pleasenotme · 21/09/2024 16:53

Do they ever come back? Devastated.
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Pleasenotme · 17/09/2024 16:25
Long time lurker, occasional poster, nc'd for this. DH has told me he wants a divorce. I can barely write this as I am so devastated and struggling to keep things together. Been together 35 years, DC. I thought we had everything. Says he hasn't been happy for a while, wants to sell our house, have a new start. I know men rarely leave without having someone in the wings. He was adamant that there was no one, but youngest DD saw him meeting up with a woman not far from the house. It was pure fluke she saw them as her nursing shifts mean she is not normally around at that time and I was in Scotland visiting my DM. DD told me about this only after DH had told her that he is divorcing me as she had been worried about it but didn't want to say anything in case it was innocent. He denies an OW. Of course. I know this woman on a casual basis and have socialised with her as part of a larger group. She is married with two young DC. My DD babysits for her occasionally.
I feel like an explosion has gone off in our lives. I can't believe this is happening. He is like an ice man with me, a stranger. He has said the most cruel things. Our marriage has had the inevitable turmoils and ups and downs but he is my soul mate. I thought we would be together forever. I can't stop crying, I can't work - thankfully my boss has been very kind - I had to ring Samaritans last night as I was so very bleak and was having panic attacks and I didn't want to be here, I just wanted it all to go away. I know that sounds foolish and selfish. He has moved out and is staying with his sister locally. We are not close so there is no point talking to her about it.
I love him so much. I can't imagine life without him, I just can't. Is there anyone on here who has had experience of their DH doing this to them AND coming back? I am grimly aware of the number of men who dump their DWs during the mid years of their lives. I suspect I am clutching at straws but this is like an earthquake. I am totally desperate for this not to be happening. Thank you for reading.

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TheShellBeach · 13/11/2024 20:25

Hello @Pleasenotme how are you?

Durdledore · 17/11/2024 08:31

Good morning, @Pleasenotme . How are you doing?

TheShellBeach · 17/11/2024 14:00

@Pleasenotme how are you getting on?

Washingupdone · 17/11/2024 19:16

Hi Pleasenotme how are you managing since the estate agents’ visits, does your solicitor recommend this action? Please don’t be bullied into a sale, especially at this time of year when the market isn’t good.
Have been able to change your will and pensions so that your DC will be the benefactors?
Look after yourself and enjoy seeing your friends.

Ydkiml · 17/11/2024 20:56

Pleasenotme please tell us how you are , I’ve been thinking of you x

ManchesterGirl2 · 18/11/2024 18:15

Thinking of you OP, hope you're doing okay. 🌷

fossilgap · 18/11/2024 18:16

Fgs she hadn’t posted in weeks. Stop being so needy
mind you, I’m pretty sure she will appear this evening

LadyLydia · 18/11/2024 18:26

I think the OP has stepped away.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 18/11/2024 23:42

@fossilgap bit of an exaggeration, the Op last posted on the 7th it's now the 18th so one and a half weeks-ish

oakleaffy · 19/11/2024 02:46

Dear OP..Hope you are bearing up.

The nights are drawing in, and it's a hard time of year when one is newly separated-
Christmas looms- and it can really brings emotions and memories up.

Just put one foot in front of the other- and you will get through. Keep on keeping on.

TheShellBeach · 19/11/2024 11:46

We're all here, ready to support you @Pleasenotme

Durdledore · 20/11/2024 14:36

As @oakleaffy says, one foot in front of the other, keep on keeping on.

We’re here. X

oakleaffy · 20/11/2024 19:48

Durdledore · 20/11/2024 14:36

As @oakleaffy says, one foot in front of the other, keep on keeping on.

We’re here. X

It's strange how some people really stay in one's mind. Pleasenotme and Purplelampshades are two whom I do think of especially.

Women who are in painful situations not of their own making, and beyond their immediate control.

Purplelampshades has a teenaged son who is being targeted {over years} by a very controlling and violent older woman. {Her son has been hospitalised}
It's a very upsetting situation.

People tag both women , probably in the hopes of a hopeful update, but sometimes life is just shite.

Durdledore · 20/11/2024 21:33

so true @oakleaffy

Channellingsophistication · 22/11/2024 07:53

@Pleasenotme I am also thinking of you OP and hope you are ok.

Pleasenotme · 22/11/2024 15:24

Hello everyone, I haven't stepped away, I'm still here but have been really unwell to the point of near-hospitalisation with pneumonia. It has been grim but for the first time in days I'm feeling slightly better. Thank you for the kindnesses expressed in so many lovely messages on this thread and I'm sorry I haven't been posting.

To update in terms of the car crash that is my life at present, my H was furious with me but has backed off, for now, on insisting that we put the house on the market. We have had the formal valuations and they are not too dissimilar to the verbal estimates at the time of the estate agents visiting but it is still surreal to see them in writing. As some of you have mentioned, until we get an agreed financial settlement, or in a worst case scenario, a Judge's direction, then there is no rush to sell. And the idea of doing so is still anathema to me and to the DC. H did challenge me to buy him out; he knows I can't possibly afford that route so I'm not sure what his game is. Perhaps he has started to feel a twinge of conscience about the DC, who knows? The Will situation is currently in hand and I have amended my pension beneficiary details so it goes to the DC in the event of my demise. I have spoken again to my friend's husband, the SH lawyer so am receiving good (and free...) advice.

H has seen a little more of the DC although youngest DD still refuses to meet up with him. The imminence of Christmas is causing some angst because it will be the first time we haven't been together as a family, and eldest DD has suggested we invite him for lunch. I am fine about that, indeed would love him to be here, so it will be interesting to see what his response will be. I don't know what he will do if he doesn't come here as his sister always goes to stay with friends from her uni days in Europe and I can't imagine they will invite him, and if they did, I don't think he would particularly want to go. Perhaps he has other options.

I saw the OW at a distance yesterday across a car park when I went out to pick up a prescription. She was doing battle with her youngest who was having a spectacular tantrum; cheered me up no end. She didn't see me, I don't think, as I suspect she would have sprinted away if she had. I'm glad she didn't get up close and personal with me as I am still channelling Worzel Gummidge, incredibly so having been so darned ill. I can't remember if I have already mentioned it, but I did send her a message telling her that I looked forward to chatting to her DH about 'the situation'. Nothing specific or pointed, just that. Hopefully she is sweating on my doing so. That cheers me up too.

That said, there has been no further mention from H about proceeding with a divorce but - if I must be fair to him - he knows how ill I have been and perhaps found some sliver of remorse. Or perhaps he was just hoping I'd shuffle off this mortal coil, thereby relieving him of any further divorce bureaucracy. However, in an odd development, he did send me flowers at the height of my illness, with an impersonal note wishing me a swift recovery.I'm still not sure what to make of that one.

And to those who are still interested, no, I haven't found my anger and if anything I feel more flattened, sometimes verging on emotionless. It's bizarre as I have always been a pretty animated personality but now I just go through the motions. I went back to work today and have been faced with a barrage of emails and tasks but I'm still a bit woolly-minded so need to make copious notes as I otherwise forget things almost instantly. Fab best friend tells me 'it's an age thing'. I dunno. I think it's an 'all too much to cope with at the moment' thing. Or just reflects my epic levels of disinterest in the daily grind. I still cry, but not as often, and have discovered that burying my face in the cat's fur as I do, much to her indignation, is strangely comforting. Such a childish, child-like thing to do.

And yes, I still miss him. Yes, I still love him. It's all such a cliche, isn't it. A friend I haven't seen in a while got in touch last week to tell me her DH has done exactly the same but unlike my H, has moved in with the OW who has left both her husband and her youngish children. Horrible.

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Goodluckanddontfitup · 22/11/2024 15:30

Please do not invite him for Christmas lunch, he does not deserve it and you need to keep your dignity in tact. Please don’t do this.

Pearl97 · 22/11/2024 15:33

I’m so pleased to hear from you. Please keep posting and ignore any ‘advice’ that makes you feel worse. There’s no right or wrong at the moment xx

Nannylovesshopping · 22/11/2024 15:33

Agree, def don’t invite him, bastard, to Christmas dinner, please please find some anger, you are worth so much more!

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 22/11/2024 15:35

It is very odd that he’s flounced off, giving you such a shock, and yet the OW is still with her husband I presume? How on earth does that work? As obviously it’s not just a couple involved in an affair now, other people now.
I have my head in my hands reading you would have him there at Christmas. It will break your heart all over again and why your eldest DD would suggest it I have no idea.
Most importantly, concentrate on your health. Get well soon.

goody2shooz · 22/11/2024 15:44

@Pleasenotme if you are considering inviting your stbxh, have you thought how that will go down with your youngest dd? Personally I can’t imagine a more more peculiar ‘family’ meal, but your dc should be consulted, no?

Secondstart1001 · 22/11/2024 15:46

Inviting your H will be so bad for your mental health - if he doesn’t come you will be upset and of he does come you will be heartbroken all over again 😔

it’s good to hear from you and I hope that you recover well. Your grief has hit your immune system so try take some extra vitamins to bring you back to health again 💐

LadyLydia · 22/11/2024 15:49

For the love of God OP, please don’t invite him for lunch!! I can’t imagine that scenario would end happily for any of you. I’m glad to see you posting again and sorry you’ve been ill.

TheShellBeach · 22/11/2024 15:52

Hello @Pleasenotme I'm sorry you've been so ill.

I'm really happy that you messaged the OW. I wonder what she told your ex!

Have you decided whether or not to let the OW's husband know about the situation?

I'm glad your ex has stopped hassling you about the house. That's an important step, although I fully expect him to ramp everything up in January, so be ready for that.

DON'T INVITE HIM FOR CHRISTMAS DINNER

Your youngest DC will not be happy, and you'll stop making emotional progress if you do. Please don't worry about where he'll be spending Christmas. He doesn't deserve your concern. He's a snake, who has treated you and the children very cruelly.

Planesmistakenforstars · 22/11/2024 15:56

If you are going to invite him for Christmas lunch (don't do this - really, really don't do this) then at the very minimum discuss it privately, with no pressure whatsoever, with your youngest and put what she wants over asking him. Don't leave one of your children out over this, it should be a case of four yeses/one no. I admit am slightly biased in this, as I'm NC with my dad but my siblings aren't, and this is the kind of thing that, thread by thread, unravels the relationships between everyone else.

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