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Fiancé wants to go "on a break" but I'm 36 weeks pregnant

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DogMamma2024 · 19/09/2024 23:27

Hi there, I'm not sure if anyone will even reply to this but I've been really struggling with this for over a week or so and I just don't know what else to do...

My fiance and I have been together three years and have had a really good relationship up until the past few months. We are suffering with a lot of external stress as we have an ongoing issue with a neighbour and an open stalking and harassment case with the police involving this neighbour. In the past few months this has intensified and my partner has been trying to shoulder most of it so it doesn't cause any issues with myself or the baby as we all know excessive stress can be harmful for babies development. I have noticed that our relationship has started to dwindle and we are more similar to being roommates at this stage rather than being in a supportive relationship. He is supportive of the pregnancy in so far as checking in with me regarding babies movements and how I'm feeling and attending appointments however, anything else is non-existent.

The past four weeks have been very difficult as he sat me down as said he can't take all of the stress anymore (job stress, harassment stress from the neighbour, family pressure etc.) and he said he was aware that he had been distant and not there to support me when I needed it and he had noticed that I had been feeling down and lonely but he just couldn't give me what I was needing. He then had said if I had not been so far along in pregnancy that I could have gone to stay with my family (they live 2 hours away) while he tried to sort his head out and get back to being the person that I fell in love with. I had said that obviously wasn't an option given my due date and I shouldn't have to leave my home for him to 'get better', but I can understand that he needs to make some sort of change to feel more mentally well. Since this initial discussion he has moved into the spare room and we are trialing some sort of odd 'separation' which I am struggling with. He had said he doesn't know if we should be together anymore and he wants to just see if he can 'get himself back' before the baby arrives because he wants to be the best dad he can be. I obviously want that for the baby too but I'm struggling to cope with how I'm feeling and the uncertainty that this is bringing at this time.

He has made a new friend, which is great, I have no problems with that and I am usually a very tolerant, chilled out person so we can go and do separate things and I don't mind. However, since he mentioned that he made this new friend (who is a female, again usually I wouldn't have an issue with this) he has been hanging out with her every night after work, so finishing at 5:30, showered, changed and out the house for 6pm and then not home until 9pm some nights I've started feeling very sad, lonely, unwanted and jealous. I don't understand how he doesn't have the mental energy to put into our relationship but he can go all these nice places with this new person instead? I told him the other day I had resigned myself to knowing that it was over between us and I gave him my ring back. He had asked me to not give up on him and assured me this person was just a friend. She has no interest in a relationship as her fiance recently left her at the altar. For as much as he says he loves me and he is positive about the future and everything will settle when the baby gets here, I have less hope than that. I know babies rarely keep people together and since we live in the same town as his family (and my support is over 2 hours away) I am feeling increasingly more isolated and that I'm almost 'paying pretend' that it will all be fine when the baby is here.

I guess I'm just wondering if I should set more boundaries in place as he's wanting the seperation, ie. Different bathrooms, he can do his own food shop, washing etc and ask him to stop saying "I love you" and using terms of endearment? I'm finding it so confusing that he says he loves me and then leaves to go and have a lovely time with his new friend while I sit in the house and get things ready for the baby.

I'm also starting to think if it was the other way around would he like me spending lots of time with some attractive man while he couldn't do things at home - the answer to that is definitely no. But then I'm thinking do I just give him as much space as I can (considering we still live in the same house and both work from home) and hope that he works it out before baby gets here. Or do I just resign myself to the fact he doesn't want to be with me but it too scared to actually say it?

If you've made it to the end of this I really appreciate it. The situation is so rubbish I don't even know what I'm looking for here, just someone to maybe have some encouragement that it won't end horribly - even if that just means baby and I will be fine with or without him. Thanks again 💕

OP posts:
YeahWellWhyNot · 20/09/2024 17:56

I wouldn't assume she isn't lying. And even if she isn't interested I suspect he is. That's enough isnt it? If he's going around her for attention with the hope that she will respond in the same way? That's setting yourself up for an affair. Sounds like he's dodging you to not look like a sh!t at a vulnerable time. I would not be happy at all.

bububaby · 20/09/2024 17:59

@DogMamma2024 so sorry this is happening to you. As much as you are feeling reassured atm after having spoken to the her, he's proven to you that he is an unreliable partner. And I wouldn't trust her bs either... she has probably made suggestions to him about how he needs to put himself first, look after his mental wellbeing etc...He wouldn't have gone to see her every night, if she was a true friend that would tell him what an imbecile he is and that he needs to get his act together and go be with his pregnant fiance...

I also get why you would chose to not make too many changes right now... but as others have said you are in a very precarious situation atm. He can ask you to leave at any point once he "finds himself". If I were you, I would move back with your parents, stop paying half his mortgage and bills and let him see how he gets on with that...
I also think you need some time to focus on yourself and your baby now and not worry about him. You can process everything that's happened later when you are ready but now you need to be around people who have your best interest at heart.
He is trying to make himself look like less of an asshole by playing the victim card... he doesn't deserve any sympathy from you at all. Zero.

Hollietree · 20/09/2024 18:00

Are you 100% certain that the lady you spoke to is the same person who he showers for, get dressed up for and rushes out to spend time with every evening? Just bear that in mind.

catlover123456789 · 20/09/2024 18:07

I got to "he's made a new friend" and my heart just sank. If he wants a relationship with you he needs to stop seeing this 'friend' and I'd suggest you make plans to move away from the neighbour. He's having a baby, he needs to grow up and step up. Does this 'friend' know he's about to be a father?

Lightdarkshade · 20/09/2024 18:09

Use this opportunity to sort out the hoise
say this episode has unsettled you and you would like financial security
if he changed the mortgage deed
all the better

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 20/09/2024 18:16

Lovefromjuliaxo · 20/09/2024 16:29

He hasn’t chosen it though has he? OP hasn’t had the baby yet. He has (likely) cheated on his partner IMO. But as OP hasn’t said anything about his fathering skills bar that he has asked how baby is and is attending appointments. So he does seem to care about baby despite his awful behaviour.

“If he has chosen not to be there doing the daily shit work, sharing the sleepless nights etc, being part of that child’s everyday life, he’s no more to that child than, say, an uncle or a family friend. He should not have any rights over the child. It’s the child’s rights that matter.”

this makes zero sense, as OP hasn’t had the baby yet.

Edited

It makes total sense. He has chosen and continues to choose to spend all his free time with another woman, while his pregnant partner is home alone and unsupported. Nothing suggests he will magically turn into a loving, caring father when the baby arrives.

Elasticatedtrousers · 20/09/2024 18:20

@DogMamma2024 the person to be talking to about his worries and concerns is YOU.

You’d be surprised how many cheating men or men fishing to cheat talk about their partners and families. He’s attempting to create a narrative that paints him as the good guy.

Men who are struggling with their mental health are not leaving their pregnant partner behind while they shower and head out with a single female friend.

She is NOT lovely, she’s using him for ego kibbles after her failed relationship, while his partner and heavily pregnant wife stays at home even ‘if’ she’s not having sex with him.

His attention is not where it should be and that is clear.

unknown2003 · 20/09/2024 18:21

I hate to say but I was in the same position and the lady in question (who I also knew) lied to my face several times, this carried on for a couple of months until I basically broke down in front of her and she finally admitted something was going on. I had driven myself mad over those two months as I knew something was wrong and had they both of had the dignity to just say it how it was from the start it would have saved me a lot of heartache as I would of known where I stood. Do not let him string you along! He either wants you or he doesn't most men don't walk out on their partner because they are scared at 36 weeks that's selfish and a load of rubbish! My ex said all the things your other half is saying, depression etc it's a chapter in the cheating script!

PerfectStorm00 · 20/09/2024 18:46

mathanxiety · 20/09/2024 17:17

Dear lord.

How convenient that he happened to find a single woman who just happens to have a slight connection to healthcare, to rush off to after showering and changing clothes every evening, and pour his heart out to her.

Sweetheart, wake up.

Your hormones and your fear of doing motherhood alone are not your friends here.

This man is not a reliable partner for you. And what's worse, he has very cleverly made you believe he is the one needing support here, while you're having his baby, and living in a house where you have fewer legal protections than a paying tenant or even a lodger. That is to say, you have no legal rights whatsoever.

In a nutshell, you are committed to this relationship up to your tonsils, while he has abandoned you in the emotional and psychological senses, and most likely sexually too. Your position is as precarious as it gets.

If you want to see where his heart is, sit him down and demand to be put on the deeds to the house.

He will achieve immediate mental clarity, I guarantee it.

Be prepared to pack your things and leave.

THIS. ALL DAY LONG.

Finmory · 20/09/2024 18:47

I'm sorry OP what a terrible situation to find yourself in when heavily pregnant.

You say this 'friend' been talking to your partner and trying to help, but since your fiancé has been receiving this support he's moved into the spare room and said he wants a break from your relationship. It really doesn't sound like this woman is trying to help you. And if she really wanted to help she could have tried sending him home from the pub to talk to you instead of her.

The fact she wanted to talk to you on the phone and has suggested meeting up makes me think she's trying to insert herself into your relationship even further.

Take care and treat this woman with deep suspicion. She is not a friend.

SpanielPaws · 20/09/2024 18:49

Any man who can hurt you like this while you're carrying his child isn't a man who loves or respects you. It's absolutely your choice to stay and tolerate it, but your baby deserves to have a father who can show respect to their mum even if they don't love them in the way that they used to.

There are many women on here who've been put in this exact place you're now in by a man that was supposed to love them. Ignore their wisdom at your own peril.

HauntedbyMagpies · 20/09/2024 18:50

I haven't read your OP yet I'm still in shock from the title. WTH?! What a dick he is

pikkumyy77 · 20/09/2024 18:54

Whatever he or she says: he is a really weak, selfish, immature person and he thinks its everyone’s job but his to manage his stress. Think very hard about whether you want to waste years tip toeing around the needs of mr big baby while also working and caring for little babies.

HauntedbyMagpies · 20/09/2024 18:55

Ok now I've read it - I bet every single thing I own that he's dating that new 'friend' I'm so, so sorry OP.

TheShellBeach · 20/09/2024 18:56

HauntedbyMagpies · 20/09/2024 18:55

Ok now I've read it - I bet every single thing I own that he's dating that new 'friend' I'm so, so sorry OP.

Have a read of the OP's latest update.

HauntedbyMagpies · 20/09/2024 19:04

@TheShellBeach I have done and I don't feel any different! I've been in exactly the same place except I had our then 1yr old. I spoke to the 'friend' on the phone who put my mind at rest etc etc. Turned out she was just a very bloody good little actress with allll the reassuring words and what a fool I was..... He left me (& our DC) for her and we haven't seen him since.

leafybrew · 20/09/2024 19:04

Mabs49 · 20/09/2024 08:07

What an absolute bastard OP. That’s all I can say right now.

His partner is 36 weeks pregnant and he’s out every evening with a friend? Literally WTF???

Hes horrible. He’s blalbbing on about his mental health. What about YOUR MENTAL HEALTH?

What an absolute shit of a selfish entitled man.

This>>

The only difference is I think your fiance is a cunt. Not a nice swear word, but I don't think he's a nice person Sad

You sound strong and together though, and you will be okay. But better without the lying c*

HauntedbyMagpies · 20/09/2024 19:10

I think OP has de-registered as I can no longer tag her....Sigh.

If you're reading this, OP please please don't fall for their nonsense. I've been in exactly the same place except I had our then 1yr old. I spoke to the 'friend' on the phone who put my mind at rest etc etc. Turned out she was just a very bloody good little actress who wanted to reassure me as she knew it would all kick off if I found out about them and she seemingly wanted to keep him happy! I guess if there was a big falling out, then she'd be the weakest link. Well what a fool I was..... He left me (& our DC) for her and we haven't seen him since. This was 8 years ago

adriftinadenofvipers · 20/09/2024 19:15

@DogMamma2024 please look after yourself. This man has no concern at all for your wellbeing. I wouldn't believe a word that woman said. She's got a vested interest remember!

adriftinadenofvipers · 20/09/2024 19:16

HauntedbyMagpies · 20/09/2024 19:10

I think OP has de-registered as I can no longer tag her....Sigh.

If you're reading this, OP please please don't fall for their nonsense. I've been in exactly the same place except I had our then 1yr old. I spoke to the 'friend' on the phone who put my mind at rest etc etc. Turned out she was just a very bloody good little actress who wanted to reassure me as she knew it would all kick off if I found out about them and she seemingly wanted to keep him happy! I guess if there was a big falling out, then she'd be the weakest link. Well what a fool I was..... He left me (& our DC) for her and we haven't seen him since. This was 8 years ago

I don't think so - I was just able to tag her.

AlertCat · 20/09/2024 19:16

It sounds very similar to the situation I found myself in. I would echo all those saying that he is not committed to the relationship and she is not OP’s friend. Unfortunately. My life now (over a decade on) would be considerably easier if I had had, and taken, the advice here.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 20/09/2024 19:18

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 20/09/2024 18:16

It makes total sense. He has chosen and continues to choose to spend all his free time with another woman, while his pregnant partner is home alone and unsupported. Nothing suggests he will magically turn into a loving, caring father when the baby arrives.

Read OP. Agreed that he is an awful partner, but OP says he has attended all appointments regarding the baby and shows care towards the baby. this is what “suggests” he may still be a responsible father despite the way he has treated OP. He has checked out of the relationship and OP should get rid for sure; but he should not be taken off the birth certificate because he has cheated. It’s got nothing to do with his child.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 20/09/2024 19:23

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 20/09/2024 18:16

It makes total sense. He has chosen and continues to choose to spend all his free time with another woman, while his pregnant partner is home alone and unsupported. Nothing suggests he will magically turn into a loving, caring father when the baby arrives.

Didn’t mean to reply twice

supersop60 · 20/09/2024 19:27

Cornflakelover · 20/09/2024 16:57

One thing I picked up on is that you said own but the house is in his name

if your not married and he owns the house he could kick you out tomorrow and you would have no rights at all to the house

Yes. This ^^
That is what stood out to me too. Always get the house in your name too, or you could be homeless.
Some years ago we bought a flat in Spain, and DP didn't want his name on the mortgage, so the bank said he couldn't have his name on the deeds either.
I know this doesn't apply in UK, I'm just illustrating how important it is to get your name on everything if you're planning on sharing a life together.

CoffeandTiaMaria · 20/09/2024 19:36

mathanxiety · 20/09/2024 17:17

Dear lord.

How convenient that he happened to find a single woman who just happens to have a slight connection to healthcare, to rush off to after showering and changing clothes every evening, and pour his heart out to her.

Sweetheart, wake up.

Your hormones and your fear of doing motherhood alone are not your friends here.

This man is not a reliable partner for you. And what's worse, he has very cleverly made you believe he is the one needing support here, while you're having his baby, and living in a house where you have fewer legal protections than a paying tenant or even a lodger. That is to say, you have no legal rights whatsoever.

In a nutshell, you are committed to this relationship up to your tonsils, while he has abandoned you in the emotional and psychological senses, and most likely sexually too. Your position is as precarious as it gets.

If you want to see where his heart is, sit him down and demand to be put on the deeds to the house.

He will achieve immediate mental clarity, I guarantee it.

Be prepared to pack your things and leave.

^^ THIS 100%
Honestly OP, she’s stringing you along like he is! Of course she’s not going to admit their having an affair, she’s getting you onside so you continue to let them have an affair in plain sight ffs.
I wouldn’t believe a word that either of them say. As @offyoujollywelltrot so succinctly wrote:
Oh so he's scared of being a dad? So his first idea is to fuck off and put the emotional load on a woman he barely knows? Jesus fucking Christ. Men are utterly bloody useless
What a twat
He needs to grow the fuck up

You need to be making plans asap to have this baby alone; the likelihood of him being with you afterwards is zilch while there’s a woman very willing to offer an ear and more.

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