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Do they ever come back? Devastated.

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Pleasenotme · 17/09/2024 16:25

Long time lurker, occasional poster, nc'd for this. DH has told me he wants a divorce. I can barely write this as I am so devastated and struggling to keep things together. Been together 35 years, DC. I thought we had everything. Says he hasn't been happy for a while, wants to sell our house, have a new start. I know men rarely leave without having someone in the wings. He was adamant that there was no one, but youngest DD saw him meeting up with a woman not far from the house. It was pure fluke she saw them as her nursing shifts mean she is not normally around at that time and I was in Scotland visiting my DM. DD told me about this only after DH had told her that he is divorcing me as she had been worried about it but didn't want to say anything in case it was innocent. He denies an OW. Of course. I know this woman on a casual basis and have socialised with her as part of a larger group. She is married with two young DC. My DD babysits for her occasionally.

I feel like an explosion has gone off in our lives. I can't believe this is happening. He is like an ice man with me, a stranger. He has said the most cruel things. Our marriage has had the inevitable turmoils and ups and downs but he is my soul mate. I thought we would be together forever. I can't stop crying, I can't work - thankfully my boss has been very kind - I had to ring Samaritans last night as I was so very bleak and was having panic attacks and I didn't want to be here, I just wanted it all to go away. I know that sounds foolish and selfish. He has moved out and is staying with his sister locally. We are not close so there is no point talking to her about it.

I love him so much. I can't imagine life without him, I just can't. Is there anyone on here who has had experience of their DH doing this to them AND coming back? I am grimly aware of the number of men who dump their DWs during the mid years of their lives. I suspect I am clutching at straws but this is like an earthquake. I am totally desperate for this not to be happening. Thank you for reading.

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betterangels · 17/09/2024 20:26

Blackberriesandcobwebs · 17/09/2024 16:36

I know you're in a state of shock but you need to get a list of your joint finances asap and make an appointment to see a solicitor to find out your position. Hes one step ahead of you by asking for a divorce so you need to catch up. Once you know where you stand financially/legally then you need to think carefully about what YOU want to do and think about a plan if he's serious about divorcing.

This, OP. He is no longer the man you married or loved. He is no longer your friend. It's harsh. But it's also important to remember.

itzthTtimeGib · 17/09/2024 20:27

That said - I have to say it’s really quite upsetting seeing all the “Ewww he’s 60?” “He can’t possibly be good looking”, “erectile dysfunction’s on the way” etc etc. Why are we suddenly being horrible about older people in general? It’s not nice. And I say that as a 31 year old!

CoffeeLover90 · 17/09/2024 20:29

Ifoughthefight · 17/09/2024 19:40

Basically he is around 60, right? OMG

He's 60 now? God she'll not even last 20 years! Has he got loads of money or is she just doing this for a laugh? Now there is your pathetic excuse for a woman.

Ncagain41 · 17/09/2024 20:31

I haven't read everyone's replies. Give him the silent treatment. Shout and scream in private, sob your heart out to friends/family, vent on here or on your notes app on your phone, but don't send him anything or speak to him. Let him think you don't actually care anymore.
I bet he'll rethink things then.

LMBoston · 17/09/2024 20:34

RaspberryParade · 17/09/2024 19:17

@LMBoston Why are you giving her 'hope' on the one hand, youre mothers decision one that was common 60 years ago when women were supposed to turn the other cheek and doormat their own feelings and pride, and on the other, admit the same advice was to your own detriment?
The poor woman is in a state of shock and confused enough already.

I perhaps worded it wrongly. As many previous posters have said, sometimes they do come back but it can never be the same; that was my point, and arguably they should not be allowed to crawl back. I certainly don’t think my mother should have let my father return!

I absolutely didn’t intend to give the OP hope and I am sorry if it read that way. I’ll delete the post just in case, I’d hate to make an awful situation worse.

thesoundofmucas · 17/09/2024 20:35

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LMBoston · 17/09/2024 20:40

@RaspberryParade I’ve reported my post to HQ for deletion. Hopefully it won’t hang around for too long.

Gettingbysomehow · 17/09/2024 20:40

OMG please not me. This brings back such painful memories. 7 years ago this exact same thing happened to me.
I met someone fell in love madly and we were married for a very long time. I honestly thought this was forever. The big love.
Then he went stone cold and nasty about our relationship. Suddenly he'd "never been happy". The usual script. He did a good job of looking happy to me.
Every single man back to the neanderthals who cheats and goes off with another woman does this. They turn on you like a wild dog. We call it the script.
Why they can't just say thank you for our children and long marriage but I've met someone else and I'm sorry but they don't they put you down and tell you how rubbish you are. How dare they? The absolute cowards.
I felt suicidal and spent hours on the Internet looking at articles on how to get your husband back.
To no avail he treated me like shit.
I had to sell my beautiful house on the South Downs and move across country, new job everything. I could not stay in my home. Every corner and street held memories of our life and I needed a fresh start.
7 years later and I am surprisingly very happy. I don't know how that happened but it did. I got a new job, made friends and moved to a part of the country I'd always dreamed of living in.
He did ask me if he could come back once when he realised how much he had lost but after he drove a tank through my life I said no. I realised I didn't want him in my life any more. You don't do that to someone who loves you.
How I coped in the early days...I didn't really, I had to go onto antidepressants to numb the pain. I took time off work and kept really busy. Eventually the panic and horror wears off. Your children will help. My DS was amazing.
You can do this. Don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth right now.
What a disgusting thing for them both to do. Wreck two families.
He will regret it mark my words.

Baffy · 17/09/2024 20:41

I have been where you are OP and reading your messages I truly feel every single thing you are saying. I think we have similar careers too, and I too, felt exactly the same. All of it.

It does get better. Honestly it does.

You sound like a wonderful human being and I am so so sorry this is happening to you.

It is nice to see Mumsnet at its best here and you have got some amazing support and advice above.

If you ever needed to reach out though, then I am here and would be happy to support you.

Newsenmum · 17/09/2024 20:41

Pleasenotme · 17/09/2024 17:23

Thanks all, such wise and kind words on here. I've just sobbed down the telephone to one of my DC then felt terrible as it shouldn't be for her to deal with - she loves her dad very much (he has been such a loving father) and is in awful pain too but I just needed to hear her voice. He had told her he was leaving me so this has not come out of the blue to her. I will try not to do that again as it's selfish and self-absorbed but she did manage to make me laugh, albeit briefly, as she has recently split up with her fiance who she had decided was a dick a few short months before their wedding date so she had some ripe words to say about men.

I've cried and begged, sometimes on my knees. I've tried really really hard not to and then I succumb. He told me I had no self-respect and he's probably right. I am ashamed but I am overwhelmed by it all. He has blocked me now so I can't contact him at all on my phone although I can email him at work 'if it's urgent'. I really need to adopt the 'calm and neutral' approach, I know I do but fuck me it goes against every grain of my DNA. I have Spanish blood so tend to react passionately to a lot of things - not an excuse I know.

You are right that he has been planning this for months and he has definitely been taking advice from someone, I suspect her as she is switched on and I don't recognise some of the language he has used as it's just not the way he says things 😢

He is being incredibly unkind. Is this usual for him? is it possible that things have actually been bad for some time op?
I hope when this fog lifts you realise he is freeing you for something more.

Hibernating80 · 17/09/2024 20:42

Sorry to hear you're going through this.

I don't think you have enough evidence re the potential OW to contact her or her husband. If you get it wrong you will look bad. You need facts not circumstantial. Don't do it.

It's hard now, dreadful, awful. But your feelings will change. It will be a rollercoaster for a while but you will be happy again. You will be able to focus on work again. You will be yourself again. You may be falling hard right now, but you will rise up again.

You are not alone.

It's horrendous to feel how you do and I wish I could help you speed through the rubbish part to feeling good again.

Sandy8765 · 17/09/2024 20:47

So he is taking on 2 kids under 5 that he cant cope with when he babysits and they wont be able to go out as they will have the kids, when hes almost 70 he will have 2 teenagers!! What planet is he on, how does he know she will stay faithfull to him, he will get old...you will survive you will have freedom,..i wish you luck

betterangels · 17/09/2024 20:47

2k2j · 17/09/2024 18:53

You can do it. Don't resign. Take time off if needed, but don't let your husband rob you of your job as well as your marriage and home.

Absolutely this. Please don't resign.

AmberAlert86 · 17/09/2024 20:51

Pleasenotme · 17/09/2024 18:53

Sadly, his looks aren't fading. Mine, however..

Don't undervalue yourself @Pleasenotme ...
My heart breaks for you, he is truly not worthy of your tears. Please look after yourself. Don't resign. Look after your own interests and those of your daughters. They love you and they need you.

I'm amazed that the OW is 39 with two small children. How does she even have the time to have 2 men in her life. And how is it all going to work? Your H finished raising his kids, now will have to help her to raise hers? He is nearly 60 surely? I'd let him get on with it so he can learn if the grass is greener and see if spending time with her and her two brats is fun. He is such a fool. The OW is disgusting, openly eyeing your husband up in front of you. Just shows how your intuition was right at the time. Some women are truly manipulative snakes. He's trading in a gem for a sneaky snake. I just hate that he had to be so nasty to you saying that he regretted marriage. He's not the man you loved.
Put yourself and your daughters first @Pleasenotme

Creamcarpetandwhitewalls · 17/09/2024 20:53

Pleasenotme · 17/09/2024 18:32

Thank you, you are so very kind, the kindness of complete strangers. I'm slumped over my laptop just bawling. I'm a line manager for many people and am considered a SME in my field, but now I feel so helpless and so inadequate and I can't imagine standing in front of a room of people or chairing a meeting ever again. I'm just completely diminished. And I'm also ashamed as so many people, right now as I type, are going through the most awful events in their lives which result in losing people they have loved in awful ways, or battling with cancer, or facing an imminent threat or the reality of conflict, and I'm sobbing about a man who seems able to dispose of me like a used tissue.

The irony of the OW is that her children, both under 5, are very difficult and spoilt as they are endlessly indulged with literally no boundaries laid down, and in the past my DH has commented on this. My DD has babysat for them and has a torrid time on every occasion and she is great with kids. For the PP who has asked, I don't have her DH's telephone number but I do know where he works so could contact him that way. But something is stopping me, perhaps the sense that once i tell him all hell will let loose and any chance of my DH returning will have gone. And her husband is a lovely man and will be shattered.

My DH is 18 years older than her if she is as I think, 39. Like her he is super fit and very attractive and was a semi-professional athlete in his youth. I felt uncomfortable when we first started socialising with her and her DH, as part of a larger group, as I noticed she paid my DH a lot of attention but then that diminished so I thought no more of it and I've always known his views on infidelity. His dad repeatedly betrayed his mum and my DH had nothing but contempt for him over that. The OW cultivated me but then that cooled off too, to the extent I wondered what I had done to upset her. She sent me a message not so long ago, asking if I wanted to go with her to an event in our town. I told her I was away with work but of course she was double-checking whether I was going to be home or not. In retrospect, they were hiding in plain sight. I've been a fool.

It’s all relative hun. You’ll feel pain just as much as the next person. Don’t beat yourself up about it.

What’s happening to you is shit. We’d all of us respond the same. But just remember, as much as this could happen to any of us, it’s already happened to many…and they’ve gotten through it. And go on to be very happy.

Be kind to yourself and spoil yourself a little and forgive yourself when you respond emotionally, you’re only human. X

Respectisnotoptional · 17/09/2024 20:54

Hi OP just sending you a big cyber hug 🤗 you’re getting lots of mainly good advice on here, but I think some people just don’t realise the absolute gut wrenching heartache that you’re feeling, they just don’t understand how unbearably painful it is, I know, I’ve been there. You need time to grieve what has been broken.
It will get easier but it won’t be overnight, take time, be kind to yourself and accept the love that family and friends give you over the coming weeks.
You can and will survive this, don’t make any rash decisions, don’t let him talk you into rushing into things, take time, make sure everything is going in your favour in the way you want, not his.
And do get good legal advice.

Efrogwraig · 17/09/2024 20:56

Is this actually the women he is seeing? Is he really ready to take on two small children?

ChiliFiend · 17/09/2024 20:57

I'm feeling skeptical that a 39 year old would destroy her young family for a man 18 years older. There is no scenario in which that ends well for her. I'm so sorry this has happened - please recognise this as the traumatic event that it is and be kind to yourself xx

BigAnne · 17/09/2024 20:59

@Pleasenotme Get off your knees girl and stand tall. Speak to a solicitor and tell him fuck all. Your boosting his ego by begging. I know your heart is breaking but he's not the man you thought he was. If he has left to be with a woman with young children his future will be miserable, he just doesn't know that yet. Remember grey rock and tell him nothing and don't enter into financial agreements unless via your solicitor. Good luck xxx

FrostFlowers2025 · 17/09/2024 20:59

OP, you love and miss the man he has been with you for over 30 years.

Sadly, that's not who he is. It has taken a long time, but he has finally revealed the real him. And the reality is that he is cold, cruel, uncaring and unfaithful and probably been that way for a long time. If he is ready to divorce than his affair has likely lasted for at least a year, if not more.

The person you love is sadly not real and never was.

Creamcarpetandwhitewalls · 17/09/2024 21:01

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Ger1atricMillennial · 17/09/2024 21:03

OP if you are still reading this...

You don't love this man you love a person that didn't exist. Now he has shown you that he cares more about his needs than his entire family.

He said he was unhappy for a while- but rather than going to therapy and being honest with you he chose to lie to you and then dumped you without warning. This man is not a keeper. You wouldn't wish this on your daughter.

If you are an accountant focus on that. Get all the money you are entitled to. He has not treated you with any respect, so why should you respect him back. Your kids are grown up, they can handle it.

Focus on the money. Deal with the emotions later.

isthatmyage · 17/09/2024 21:11

Pleasenotme · 17/09/2024 17:38

He has given me virtually a books-worth of all the things that are wrong with me and our marriage. I literally had no idea. As I said, we've had our ups and downs but the person he portrayed was not someone I recognised as me and I thought I had a fair amount of self-insight. I've always been my worst critic. Perhaps it's me that is delusional. I'm doubting everything and I really am a monster and inadequate and he regrets ever marrying me - as he said.

OP can you give him a trilogy back? What an arse...you will be ok and come through this stronger xx

TennisLady · 17/09/2024 21:11

One of the truest things I read when I had the sudden shock of my ex DH leaving is that it is like you are grieving. You grieve the person you thought you loved, and the life you have and thought you would have.

It’s awful when you’re in it OP. All I can say is it does get better, but it takes time.

Runnerinthenight · 17/09/2024 21:12

I'm sorry but I don't understand how your mother could be happy with a man who has treated her the way your father has.

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