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Physically attacked my DD16

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Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 09:25

Nc, feel disgusted and hate myself. I seriously physically attacked my DD16 yesterday causing her ear to bleed where she had earrings in. I'm vile, not fit to be called a mother and should have never had children. I'm ruining their lives. I'm a piece of shit.

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 01/09/2024 21:20

DoreenonTill8 · 01/09/2024 21:07

@Rosscameasdoody so you're clearly stating its the daughters fault she was assaulted. That the 'look what you made me do' defence is valid?
So many violent men will be so grateful to you!

Wondered how long it would take for someone to come up with this. No - not saying that at all. What I am saying is that the DD is old enough for her own behaviour towards her mother to be examined. Given the OP’s breakdown and the years of MH issues DD will have been aware of her mothers’ vulnerability, and over many posts, OP has described some pretty awful behaviour from her DD, going far beyond normal teenage rebellion - and not only tolerated by ‘fun dad’ but positively encouraged by him. Everyone has their breaking point, and when social services investigate the incident, they need to know all of the facts leading up to the incident - especially as OP is now in hospital under psychiatric care. This is crucial to how things are handled going forward.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/09/2024 21:24

Cheesandcrackers · 01/09/2024 21:11

I can guarantee you social services won't care about the OPs mental health. And they will be all over this like a rash as soon as they find out. Which will probably be tomorrow.

Not my experience, and I can only speak from that.

DoreenonTill8 · 01/09/2024 21:28

Yep so you are victim blaming @Rosscameasdoody 'she knew her mother's history, so she's responsible at 16 years old; having being brought up in this dreadful, abusive environment so it's all she knows how to behave and react if we're using the ops defense, so it's her fault if she caused her mum to assault her?

BreadInCaptivity · 01/09/2024 21:28

ripped her earrings out and made her bleed

Just for clarification the OP did not say the earrings were ripped out.

She said "causing her ear to bleed where she had earrings in".

I'm not minimising or excusing the latter but think it's important not to make inaccurate posts about what occurred.

Cheesandcrackers · 01/09/2024 21:29

Rosscameasdoody · 01/09/2024 21:24

Not my experience, and I can only speak from that.

The OP doesn't live in the UK afaik and I can tell you it's a very much more child focussed system where I think she lives. There is no latitude for a medical professional/teacher to not report physical abuse for example.

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 21:30

Just to clarify, I've had a social worker talk to me. They won't be taking it further. No police involvement either.

OP posts:
DoreenonTill8 · 01/09/2024 21:31

BreadInCaptivity · 01/09/2024 21:28

ripped her earrings out and made her bleed

Just for clarification the OP did not say the earrings were ripped out.

She said "causing her ear to bleed where she had earrings in".

I'm not minimising or excusing the latter but think it's important not to make inaccurate posts about what occurred.

Aw yeah, she only assaulted her child till she bled.....

Smilinggirl2012 · 01/09/2024 21:33

I find it hard to believe the OP has been seen by two psychiatrists on a Sunday. I live in Ireland and mental health care is appalling. People in a psychotic state have been turned away from A&E.

I hope you do get support to stop you assaulting your child again.
I really hope you get help for yourself. If your husband is as unsupportive as you say he is, you need to leave as soon as possible.

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 21:36

Smilinggirl2012 · 01/09/2024 21:33

I find it hard to believe the OP has been seen by two psychiatrists on a Sunday. I live in Ireland and mental health care is appalling. People in a psychotic state have been turned away from A&E.

I hope you do get support to stop you assaulting your child again.
I really hope you get help for yourself. If your husband is as unsupportive as you say he is, you need to leave as soon as possible.

I have been under the care of the mental health team for 8 years. They are absolutely amazing. I'm sorry people you know people that had a bad experience. I cant relate to that.

OP posts:
HotPotato123 · 01/09/2024 21:37

I wonder what the other sides to this story would sound like.

Smilinggirl2012 · 01/09/2024 21:41

HotPotato123 · 01/09/2024 21:37

I wonder what the other sides to this story would sound like.

I really would too.

mind yourself though @Awfulmother1
hope you can come through this. Have you been admitted?

tattygrl · 01/09/2024 21:44

HotPotato123 · 01/09/2024 21:37

I wonder what the other sides to this story would sound like.

For our purposes, does it matter? The experiences of her daughter and family matter, of course, but we're never going to know. There's no downside to OP seeking proper intervention and hopefully she really is. The only thing we can do with the info we have is encourage her to do so.

Honestlyy · 01/09/2024 21:45

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 21:30

Just to clarify, I've had a social worker talk to me. They won't be taking it further. No police involvement either.

It's excellent that you are receiving such swift care and that Social Work are so understanding. It doesn't help your daughter much though. I hope you already making a plan to improve your bond with her. It might be helpful to go to back to the start and get therapy for her traumatic birth.

BreadInCaptivity · 01/09/2024 21:49

DoreenonTill8 · 01/09/2024 21:28

Yep so you are victim blaming @Rosscameasdoody 'she knew her mother's history, so she's responsible at 16 years old; having being brought up in this dreadful, abusive environment so it's all she knows how to behave and react if we're using the ops defense, so it's her fault if she caused her mum to assault her?

I think you are misinterpreting what this poster has said.

It's not blaming the DD to contextualise the long term behaviours of all members of the family in understanding this serious incident.

Rather as that poster has said, understanding this should rightly look to consider the long term actions of the father in validating, encouraging and rewarding his DD behaviour against her mother to maintain his favourite status.

The priority here is the welfare of all the children.

Achieving that demands the investigation into not just the incident but the family dynamics in which that incident occurred.

Addressing concerns contained only to the incident itself is dangerous and not in the childrens best interests.

The OP is out of the home getting MH care.

Does that mean these 3 children are safe?

They are with a father whose only reaction to his wife being admitted after assaulting their DD was having to actually step up and do even minor level parenting he has so determinedly avoided for years in taking them to hobbies.

Think about that. He's so concerned about the children he'd rather have her at home after what she has done instead of getting help because he's going to have to be a Dad rather than Mr Fun.

The DD's behaviour needs to be considered not as a matter of blame, but to explain the root cause of this incident which is years of abuse towards the OP by the father which not unexpectedly has resulted in the two older children replicating similar behaviours.

TransformerZ · 01/09/2024 21:50

RadioWhatsNew · 01/09/2024 21:14

You should be ashamed of yourself that you even typed that out. The daughter who is a child BTW, didn't deserve to be attacked or abused by her mother.

They don't deserve the mum, they deserve one that doesn't attack or abuse them or let's them live in a toxic environment

You should be ashamed of yourself.
Defending people that steal others disability money, harass and bully a mentally vulnerable woman until she snaps.

TransformerZ · 01/09/2024 21:51

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BreadInCaptivity · 01/09/2024 21:51

@DoreenonTill8

"Aw yeah, she only assaulted her child till she bled....."

Read my post again. Your comment was uncalled for.

Accuracy is important and not the same as minimisation behaviour- something about which I was very clear.

DoreenonTill8 · 01/09/2024 21:53

Honestlyy · 01/09/2024 21:45

It's excellent that you are receiving such swift care and that Social Work are so understanding. It doesn't help your daughter much though. I hope you already making a plan to improve your bond with her. It might be helpful to go to back to the start and get therapy for her traumatic birth.

So many on this thread seem to have the view that the 16 year old dd is one of the villians of things, and that her safety and that of the other dc is of little consequence.
I find that sad.

TheClawDecides · 01/09/2024 21:53

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 21:30

Just to clarify, I've had a social worker talk to me. They won't be taking it further. No police involvement either.

No action at all after a parent commits ABH against their own child??

I've been out of Ireland a while now but I'm shocked it's come to this.

Is it lack of resources, or is this pretty normal nowadays?

Rosscameasdoody · 01/09/2024 21:55

DoreenonTill8 · 01/09/2024 21:28

Yep so you are victim blaming @Rosscameasdoody 'she knew her mother's history, so she's responsible at 16 years old; having being brought up in this dreadful, abusive environment so it's all she knows how to behave and react if we're using the ops defense, so it's her fault if she caused her mum to assault her?

Nope. Didn’t say any of that. Not my fault if your comprehension skills aren’t up to scratch.

TheClawDecides · 01/09/2024 21:55

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Your posts have been getting more and more bizarre throughout the day.

Are you quite alright?

Smilinggirl2012 · 01/09/2024 21:57

TheClawDecides · 01/09/2024 21:53

No action at all after a parent commits ABH against their own child??

I've been out of Ireland a while now but I'm shocked it's come to this.

Is it lack of resources, or is this pretty normal nowadays?

Exactly. There’s no resources of course but again this seems very odd. Especially as it’s all happening over the weekend?

TransformerZ · 01/09/2024 21:57

TheClawDecides · 01/09/2024 21:55

Your posts have been getting more and more bizarre throughout the day.

Are you quite alright?

Your posts are bizarre - are you OK? Go and gas light someone else.

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 21:59

TheClawDecides · 01/09/2024 21:53

No action at all after a parent commits ABH against their own child??

I've been out of Ireland a while now but I'm shocked it's come to this.

Is it lack of resources, or is this pretty normal nowadays?

Considering all the information regarding my mental health and involvement with the mental health services and the fact I have rang The Gardai when I was physically abused and got a restraining order from Dolphin House that lasted 3 months its not normal behaviour. Its intellegient behaviour.

OP posts:
TheClawDecides · 01/09/2024 22:00

TransformerZ · 01/09/2024 21:57

Your posts are bizarre - are you OK? Go and gas light someone else.

I'm serious.

I thought they were bizarre this morning but they've got steadily stranger throughout the day.

No gaslighting involved as they're all there to read back, unless some have been deleted?

Anyway, if you say you're ok then your ok I guess.