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Physically attacked my DD16

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Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 09:25

Nc, feel disgusted and hate myself. I seriously physically attacked my DD16 yesterday causing her ear to bleed where she had earrings in. I'm vile, not fit to be called a mother and should have never had children. I'm ruining their lives. I'm a piece of shit.

OP posts:
MarmiteRoasties · 01/09/2024 12:27

MumblesParty · 01/09/2024 11:34

@IMustDoMoreExercise maybe in your world lots of parents don’t bond with their kids, but I’ve never come across anyone who wasn’t devoted to their newborn. To me it shows a fundamental problem to not bond with your baby, usually a manifestation of significant mental illness, which OP has already stated she has. Her DH has no doubt spend years trying to make up for this detachment. Would you happily watch your mentally ill husband being cold and cruel to your kids, and support him in his actions?

Well this shows some ignorance

I didn’t ‘bond’ with my newborn after a traumatic delivery and being shocked with the relentlessness of parenthood. Posts like yours made me feel like a failure.

I was still devoted to him. That magic bond grew with time. And now I’m devoted to and bonded with him. Am I an unnatural or terrible parent?

This thread shows how many uncomfortable and contradictory things can be true at once.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 01/09/2024 12:27

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 12:25

I last contacted them about two years ago after a few months of awful emotional , psychological and low level physical abuse from DH. He actually had me convinced I was crazy (maybe I am). At the time they had no room for me to stay with the three kids. I just felt totally defeated. I think I need to contact them and take my DS.

That would be a good idea - even if it not permanent. Take your son, if he want to come, and find somewhere else to stay for a while.

OhWell45 · 01/09/2024 12:28

I think your husband is abusive. He's abusing you financially. He's a yes man with your kids. He let them do what they like when they like and has no boundaries. He allows them to disrespect you. He has no respect for you and neither do they.

You sound like you're on the edge of another MH episode. You sound unwell. You can't go round throwing shit. You can't physically hurt your children. You know that.

I personally think you need to move out. I'm not saying that because I think your a danger or unfit. I'm saying that because I think it's a toxic environment for you. I think you'll feel better and get better if your not their. Your older children will be asked who they want to live with presumably the older 2 will chose dad.

Aladdinscarpet · 01/09/2024 12:29

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 12:25

I last contacted them about two years ago after a few months of awful emotional , psychological and low level physical abuse from DH. He actually had me convinced I was crazy (maybe I am). At the time they had no room for me to stay with the three kids. I just felt totally defeated. I think I need to contact them and take my DS.

I think you need to get away from this dynamic. You are not walking out of the situation with clean hands after the altercation with your DD but I absolutely believe your husband has taught her to abuse you as an extension of him abusing you. I have seen it up close before. You might be better doing a tonne of work on yourself and then seeing what relationships are possible after that. If your DDs continue to abuse you, as they have been brought up to do, then it is a real problem.

TransformerZ · 01/09/2024 12:29

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 12:25

I last contacted them about two years ago after a few months of awful emotional , psychological and low level physical abuse from DH. He actually had me convinced I was crazy (maybe I am). At the time they had no room for me to stay with the three kids. I just felt totally defeated. I think I need to contact them and take my DS.

Tell the other 3 to move out - make sure you don't let them stay in the house - take 50 per cent.
You have no one in your life to look out for you.
If you did - you wouldn't have put the hefty deposit down on your own. You would have left him when he didn't let you get your mental health help. Don't ruin your son's life.

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 01/09/2024 12:29

Putting · 01/09/2024 12:05

How Is her husband stealing from her? Surely both adults have a responsibility to contribute to the household financially?

To the point where one has no money at all and the other is free to do what they want including treating two out of three children on a regular basis?

AnonAnonmystery · 01/09/2024 12:31

Aladdinscarpet · 01/09/2024 12:29

I think you need to get away from this dynamic. You are not walking out of the situation with clean hands after the altercation with your DD but I absolutely believe your husband has taught her to abuse you as an extension of him abusing you. I have seen it up close before. You might be better doing a tonne of work on yourself and then seeing what relationships are possible after that. If your DDs continue to abuse you, as they have been brought up to do, then it is a real problem.

Yes this is called “learned behavior” as child has learnt from father to abuse mother. This is exactly what happened to me with my DD.

TheHeadOfTheHouse · 01/09/2024 12:34

You shouldn’t have thrown the remote “as a warning” 🤔

however this sounds like a build up of disrespectful behaviour (theres no way my children would ever tell me to shush when I’ve asked them to do something).

the thing is with situations where you’re dealing with a disrespectful child/teenager is that it’s nipped in the bud straightaway and they instantly know they have crossed the line.

not dealing with her over time has caused this to build and you to feel disrespected, which has in turn caused you to snap.

im not surprised you snapped, i would’ve snapped along time ago with a daughter like yours, i certainly wouldn’t have apologised to her, when she’s the reason it’s come to this.

its a shame you’ve never had a good relationship with her, why is this?

Pantaloons99 · 01/09/2024 12:35

@Awfulmother1 yes, contact Womens Aid again. You need to find a way to get out of this house.

I agree with everyone saying the older kid has been taught by dad and they're tag teaming. I've watched this happen in my own family with kids. It's poisonous. If you don't realise it you could just flip out / explode one day ( like you have) and you're then the crazy.

If your daughter is like this then you can't save her now anyway. Get out and get space. You don't want your younger son joining in.

Don't take responsibility for everyone else! This is what they'll do next. All of it will be your fault. You accept your problem and your actions and you do something - which I believe you are.

jannier · 01/09/2024 12:35

Awfulmother1 · 01/09/2024 09:53

That won't be happening.

Why because abuse is okay if it's the mother?

outdamnedspots · 01/09/2024 12:38

Why don't you RTFT @jannier ? 🙄

YogaForDummies · 01/09/2024 12:39

What you did was wrong bur at least you can see it was wrong and have remorse. It can't carry on OP, something has got to give. Yes she isn't perfect but she isn't an adult she's a child, and she needs to feel safe in her home without fear of being hurt. I say this as someone who grew up in a physically abusive household so I very much know the long term impact of it.

jannier · 01/09/2024 12:41

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"A woman doing it is not as bad" what am I reading abuse from anyone is bad of course a woman can injure someone are you going to say it's okay as long as you don't break a bone or do internal damage? Or how about my 15 year old daughter can hit me, but not my 15 year old son ...hitting or attacking anyone is wrong and abuse.

Frequency · 01/09/2024 12:41

I don't understand how leaving a tap on can cause a leak? Surely, the leak was already there, and leaving the tap on just highlighted it. I leave my bathroom tap on all the time because the cats like to drink from it. It's never caused a leak.

I'm almost 100% certain that everyone on this thread has accidentally left a pair of straighteners somewhere they shouldn't have before.

The rest sounds like normal teenage shit.

One of my DDs went through 2 or 3 beds in quick succession because she kept flopping on them instead of sitting down. I didn't abuse her because of it. I helped her source cheap replacements when she asked me to and I helped her dismantle and assemble them when she asked, otherwise, I left her to it. Her bed, her problem.

The other DD is quite possibly growing a new strain of the bubonic plague in her room. I still don't assault her. Her room, her problem. If she asks me to help her clean, I might depending if I am busy otherwise I leave her to it.

If you're constantly picking at her she is going to respond to you with aggression. It's just how teenagers are. Their brains are not fully developed yet and they cannot deal with conflict the same way as adults.

You need to apologise and you need some parenting classes and counseling. If there is any risk of you assaulting your child again you need to leave the family home.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 01/09/2024 12:41

IMustDoMoreExercise · 01/09/2024 11:08

But the daughter is nothing like you. She is causing a lot of trouble and the husband is not supporting the OP.

Edited

No excuse for violence against a 16yr old, whose frontal cortex is as yet undeveloped and therefore has reduced capacity for empathy and understanding.

OP is a grown adult. She was able to control herself when she saw her other children watching so fully understood her behaviour was unacceptable.

DoreenonTill8 · 01/09/2024 12:41

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 01/09/2024 10:53

Is your husband DD16s father?

Are your girls safe from him? The 14 yo starting to act like the 16 yo is a huge red flag.

Girls don't break their beds and mirrors without very good reason. Her behaviour towards you especially would concern me.

Contact Women's Aid. You need to get out. If the girls are safe and happy with him they should stay there. Take your son with you.

Your husband is abusive.

It's shit like this that make MN a laughing stock.
The Dh is abusive?
Perhaps the dd is acting out because her mother is aggressive and violent?

TruthThatsHardAsSteel · 01/09/2024 12:43

ncforcatquestion · 01/09/2024 10:36

Sorry, read more of your comments. It will be your PTSD that's causing the anger issues. You really should see a doctor about this

I have CPTSD and have notched up several adverse childhood experiences. I've never ever attacked someone. Please think about your words. This thread is disgusting, the amount of apologists.

SwiftiesVSLestat · 01/09/2024 12:45

AnonAnonmystery · 01/09/2024 12:31

Yes this is called “learned behavior” as child has learnt from father to abuse mother. This is exactly what happened to me with my DD.

Or maybe she learned the behaviour from her mother. The one that attacked her.

CatamaranViper · 01/09/2024 12:45

I just don't know what to believe on this thread.
I feel like OP is saying what she needs to to justify her actions.

Choochoo21 · 01/09/2024 12:46

Pantaloons99 · 01/09/2024 11:57

@Choochoo21 go clutch your pearls somewhere else. I imagine mum's on here have done all sorts.

OP - just get out the house for the day. Just go walk somewhere for hours. Your husband and your daughter sound bloody nightmares. And no I don't advocate abuse. We are however all capable of it under the right combination of circumstances - and that includes you choochoo.

If you think it’s pearl clutching to disagree with attacking your kids or being abusive, then I feel very sorry for the people in your home.

I hope you’re never in an abusive marriage.

jannier · 01/09/2024 12:46

ThorndonCream · 01/09/2024 10:15

My grandmother, when riled by one of her numerous children, was prone to throwing a poker at the reccalcitrant child! They all grew up with excellent reflexes and productive lives. I'm sure she would never have thought of self-reporting herself to the police. She certainly didn't think of leaving the family house. There seems to be a lot of middle-class wokeness on this thread.

She was lucky she lived in a time where abuse was brushed under carpets and that the poker didn't kill or seriously injure her child. I think normal people of all classes are against abuse maybe you were just so used to it that you don't register it as wrong.

GiddyNavyJoker · 01/09/2024 12:47

MsNeis · 01/09/2024 10:56

The husband seems to be a man-child, yes.

You are assuming we can trust the OPs narrative of her DH and daughters relationship. Is there not a chance the OP is twisting and saying things to justify her aggressive, toxix behaviour?

Allthehorsesintheworld · 01/09/2024 12:48

OhWell45 · 01/09/2024 12:28

I think your husband is abusive. He's abusing you financially. He's a yes man with your kids. He let them do what they like when they like and has no boundaries. He allows them to disrespect you. He has no respect for you and neither do they.

You sound like you're on the edge of another MH episode. You sound unwell. You can't go round throwing shit. You can't physically hurt your children. You know that.

I personally think you need to move out. I'm not saying that because I think your a danger or unfit. I'm saying that because I think it's a toxic environment for you. I think you'll feel better and get better if your not their. Your older children will be asked who they want to live with presumably the older 2 will chose dad.

I agree with @OhWell45
Your husband takes the easy path, you’re left with the tough jobs and you sound very unwell to me.
Either he moves out with the two girls & you stay with DS,
Or the house is sold, you get back your 38k and the remaining equity is split 50/50.
You and DH working as a team to manage the kids, him showing respect and consideration equally to everyone and you doing the same would be a positive influence on the children. Sadly I don’t think that’s going to happen and there’s too much negativity, causing a really toxic environment.

Get help from your GP, mental health services if possible and I hope you can all find some peace in your lives.

Cheesandcrackers · 01/09/2024 12:48

SwiftiesVSLestat · 01/09/2024 12:45

Or maybe she learned the behaviour from her mother. The one that attacked her.

Exactly, so a woman attacks their child but there is a man within a mile radius so it's his fault. Right. Take some responsibility OP. At least you 'll get some respect for that.

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2024 12:49

Choochoo21 · 01/09/2024 11:47

DH has actually brought our two daughters out this morning. He has form for this. If there's an argument he straight away brings then out and treats them. DS12 is at home with me.

So this is a regular occurrence then.

Thank goodness they have their dads support.
Of course the best thing he can do is remove them from the situation.
Look what happened when he didn’t.

You need to leave today.
If you have no where to go then you ring the council and say you are homeless.

Your posts and the way you are trying to play the victim are sickening to read.
It’s textbook abusive behaviour.

This! With bells on.
I have 3 teenagers btw, so I know what it's like, but your behaviour is appalling. This has not come out of the blue, you are an abuser.
Your husband is trying to compensate for your abuse. He will probably feel confused and ashamed that he has to protect his children from their mother, but I really hope he finds the courage to report this. You need to leave the home asap to give your dc half a chance of recovery. Declare yourself homeless and get away from them immediately. If you truly cared for any of them you would leave.
You are damaging your children but you cannot see it, you are only concerned about how things effect you. It's very telling that you favour your son.