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Boyfriend rejects my family

179 replies

Workingmim · 22/08/2024 19:01

My mum has invited my bf and me for lunch. It’s casual and at a cafe. We’ve been together 3 years. He doesn’t want to go. This happens every time we go to see any member of my family or any of my friends. He gets pissed off, kicks up a fuss, and gives me the silent treatment in the lead up. At the event, he’s usually polite but not very engaged and then he will give me the silent treatment. Then we have an argument about it.

He says he hates having to conform expectations put on him by others like playing the role of a boyfriend. He’s 48 and is starting to play a more involved role in my 4 year old’s life who he adores. He is committed to us but this aversion to my family is really making me angry and upset. I’ve tried to understand but I find it very rude that he won’t give my family a chance. They are interesting and kind people who invite him to things to try and include him.

We are going tomorrow and he’s currently sulking in the shed.

Wwyd?

OP posts:
Hairydairyfair · 23/08/2024 00:12

Hello OP

Thought it might be helpful to put forward a different point of view.

I think it really depends what is happening in the conversations between you. Does he try and encourage you not to see your family when you enjoy it and when they are definitely kind to you, which is controlling?

Or does he simply not want to accompany you, which is fine, he is not doing anything wrong, but it may just not suit you?

The two are different things and it's important to work out whether you are dating a man who is independent and doesn't feel the need to be close to your family (fine) or is controlling (not fine).

What happens exactly when he gives you the silent treatment, is angry/sulky etc? Do you just ask if he can accompany you and he immediately starts behaving like this (not fine), or is there a longer, more prolonged argument where you try to persuade him to attend your family events and make comments about how his past must be the reason why he doesn't want to (still not great that he is sulking, but that context is important).

If he is not controlling, but is just independent, and you want to carry on dating him, then I would just stop explicitly inviting him to family events.

I am saying this because maybe I can provide some perspective.

I was in care and I am not in touch with my biological parents. I have had previous relationships where I have got on famously with my boyfriend's parents and one ex-boyfriend's mum is still in my life to this day (much like an aunt figure).

However unfortunately when I met my current partner's parents, I could tell quite quickly that although they are largely good parents to their son/my partner they are not really particularly interested in being open minded or kind. They absolutely were assessing me, from comments on where I lived, to whether my cousin was going to improve his job, to comments about how I'd 'rejected my parents'. My partner couldn't see their behaviour clearly and couldn't understand why I will only visit them occasionally.

I wasn't particularly interested in creating a rift between him and his parents. They obviously love him but they are the sort of people who are only capable of caring about their own immediate family and have a very fixed view of the world.

My partner and I did have a couple of bad arguments about it where he made comments about how I don't like his parents just because I've had problems with mine and I don't understand how family works - which was very hurtful. I would avoid saying anything like that to your partner.

I have never actually got to the point where I've wanted to say to my partner 'look, I know your parents are great to you, but they're actually repeatedly unkind and belittling to me in lots of small ways, I am afraid they are just not great people so I only want to see them occasionally as I don't want that type of regular small mindedness in my daily life'. I feel like it would be unnecessary and hurtful.

Plus he would probably never believe it - it is far easier to pin the issue on my unusual background. In fact, what my unusual background gives me is a good ability to read people and their motivations and when they are comfortable judging and being slightly unkind to people around them.

I would just be cautious about assuming that your family is the good, kind, happy one and the issue must be with him. If he is being controlling, behaving abusively or making you feel small or scared over this issue, you should end the relationship.

But if he just doesn't want to spend time with your family and you keep challenging him on it and referring to his background in arguements, I think you should rethink your position. He is nearly fifty and not obligated to spend time with people when the experience is making him uncomfortable.

As long as he is not being cruel about that, that is okay. Equally, you are also entitled to leave and find a partner who actively wants to spend time with your mum, that is fine too.

Noseybookworm · 23/08/2024 00:13

Oh my God, dump him!! 48 years old and acting like a stroppy teenager 🙄 do you really want to spend your life with this man-child? He will wear you down and isolate you from your family and friends in the end. Just get rid of him, he's an arse.

FloofyKat · 23/08/2024 00:14

He doesn't like conforming to expectations? What? That he’ll be mature and chat with other grown ups? What makes him so special that he can’t make in effort in front of the people you care about! Is he like this with your friends, too?

And as for sulking in the shed, is he 12?

Don’t you think this is all a bit pathetic!

thequeenoftarts · 23/08/2024 00:19

How utterly attractive he is..NOT
Sorry you deserve a lot better than him, unless your family are raging utter scumbags who a twitchy left eye and a hunchback

susansaucepan · 23/08/2024 08:24

Could he be grooming you and your child and isolating you from your family.

Be careful !!

Thecatthatgotthesouredmilk · 23/08/2024 11:43

Please, whatever you do, never leave this man alone with your daughter. I'm getting weird vibes from this situation.

Shoxfordian · 23/08/2024 12:32

I'd tell him if he doesn't like playing the role of boyfriend then he doesn't have to anymore, life's too short for this nonsense

KerryBlues · 23/08/2024 12:34

GrazingSheep · 22/08/2024 19:02

God your poor child. What on earth are you doing with this fucking arsehole ??

Yeah, first post nails it.

AgentJohnson · 23/08/2024 12:53

The sulking and silent treatment are not helpful.

Well that’s a mild way of putting it. He is immature and petty and immaturity at 48 year old isn’t a good look. His behaviour isn’t confusing, especially when he’s given his reasons/ excuses, what I can’t fathom is you continuously banging your head against a brick wall hoping him to behave differently. THIS IS WHO HE IS.

You are trying to integrate someone into your life who wants to pick and choose where he integrates. Crashing at his gf’s and playing happy families with a kid he has no responsibilities for and there are no expectations of, fine. Sitting on your mums sofa, while everyone is thinking ‘where the hell is this going?’, less so.

The balls in your court, you need to decide if you’re happy with a 48 year old acting like a toddler.

Raininginparadise2 · 23/08/2024 13:12

OP how would you feel, if when your DD grows up, her bf wouldn't meet you 3 years into their relationship? Would you worry about her? I'm sure your mum feels the same. It's a red flag. I'd rethink this relationship. It doesn't sound supportive and respectful. Also, what example does it set for your daughter? Why do you put up with being treated like this? Maybe work on your self-esteem and realise that your life could be so much better without him.

MammaTo · 23/08/2024 13:12

It’s a massive red flag for future abuse. Hes starting to isolate you from your loved ones.

larklane17 · 23/08/2024 13:18

Your mother must really care and worry about you. Everyone can see what an awful man he is. He's not fit to be around a small child. Wise up and get rid of him.

OriginalUsername2 · 23/08/2024 14:47

I feel bad for him. Sulking isn’t comfortable but neither is being forced into happy family situations when you had a shit childhood and have massive, protective walls up.

He wants a relationship with you where you keep your lives separate. I think that’s reasonable for a grown adult. We know what we want and what we don’t want by this age.

Feelinadequate23 · 23/08/2024 15:00

Well he couldn't wave this red flag any more in your face, could he? If any man was rude to my mum that would be the first and last time. They'd be out by the end of the day. Definitely time to bin this one, OP! And raise your standards next time!

Ger1atricMillennial · 28/08/2024 06:03

Hmmm.... torn on this one. It doesn't sound like he wants to be part of a wider family which is perfectly reasonable he might just like dating you. However it sounds like you do want him to be part of your family. So there is a conflict.

However, if at 48 he cannot express himself in a reasonable way when he is upset about a normal part of your life, then (unless he is getting help for this under his own steam) he isn't going to change.

CurlewKate · 28/08/2024 06:11

Does he consider himself a "free spirit"? Does he "not want to be tied down"?

YouZirName · 28/08/2024 06:19

I'm on his side tbh. You're both adults, lunch in a Cafe with boring small talk with someone you're not interested in isn't exactly fun.

ThePrologue · 28/08/2024 06:43

This is controlling. Gradually he will pull you away from you family with an 'if you loved me you wouldn't go', until you end up nc with them

Vixxievix · 28/08/2024 06:48

Wow unpopular opinion here clearly but family gatherings make me shudder. I can deal with my own family, but the thought of going to my partners family dos makes me super anxious. I do go though, but I feel awkward the whole time. Like it's definitely not him or his family, I'm aware I'm the problem, but I feel judged and feel like I need to be on my best behaviour which is irrational and isn't the case 🫣

Like I say, I do brave my way through it for his sake but it wouldn't be my favourite thing to do for the reasons mentioned above, but I certainly don't keep him from his family.

Could this guy be super anxious and just too annoyed with himself to admit it? Anxiety is shit to deal with, especially when people think you're deliberately being a dick

MushMonster · 28/08/2024 06:49

Leave him OP. Run for the hills. This is the very very very large crimson red flag you need.
Controlling bastard trying to isolate you. Run!

MumsTheWordYouKnow · 28/08/2024 06:52

Why be with someone who only sees you two nights a week. What’s he doing the rest of the time. I’d not let someone like that stay in my house with my child actually. It sets off alarm bells to me.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 28/08/2024 06:55

Workingmim · 22/08/2024 20:37

He says he hates making polite conversation and feels like he's being interviewed/assessed. My family are very accepting and they really are nice people so I think the problem is with his perception rather than anything my mum or anyone else is saying/doing. He had a bad childhood and doesn't keep in touch with his own family which I think is significant. I can understand all these things but agree that the difficult part is his reaction. The sulking and silent treatment are not helpful and just make me angry. I'm getting fed up of feeling like I'm dragging him out against his will

If he can’t go for a cup of tea with your mum without silent treatment and sulking he is not the type of person to be around your daughter at all. What behaviour to model. It is very red flag behaviour to give you silent treatment. I’d end things OP.

MumsTheWordYouKnow · 28/08/2024 06:56

Exactly, something doesn’t sound right here. Why the interest in the daughter but not the of the family.

Life2Short4Nonsense · 28/08/2024 07:01

IggyAce · 22/08/2024 19:06

Red flag, he’s trying to isolate you, the silent treatment is abusive. I’d throw this one back.

This was my first thought, too.

If he doesn't want to go he can just say so, but from the way he is acting he does not want you to go either. He agrees to the outing and then sabotages it, in the hopes that you'll make fewer plans with your family.

Mymanyellow · 28/08/2024 07:04

He’s not really your boyfriend either is he? Couple of nights a week for sex and dinner.
Either he is actively trying to isolate you from your parents or he is just being incredibly rude and thinks he’s too good for them. Both of these options are not things you’d want your dc around.