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How to politely say no to sex with girlfriend

139 replies

nameForThis99 · 12/08/2024 18:39

So I’m sure I’m going to get flamed for this but here goes- I really need a female perspective on this .
Im a 55 year old man and a dating a 52 year old woman - who has come out of a long and mostly sexless marriage , slightly long distance, so we probably see each other every other week and maybe once during the week,
my partner would like sex every time we meet ( I know most men would jump at this ), but sometimes I’m tired or stressed or not really in the mood ( plus I’m older , so sometimes things don’t work how they used to )

if I mention this my partner she can say things like I don’t love her or I don’t fancy her anymore ( neither of which are true) , she almost uses us having sex as a measure of how strong the relationship is.

im not really sure what I’m asking for, maybe some advice on how to say “thanks but no thanks “.

OP posts:
JenniferBooth · 12/08/2024 21:34

ZoneOut24 · 12/08/2024 21:31

If she's been in a sexless marriage it could have been for a variety of reasons, however she has probably just discovered her sexual side again and is looking forward to exploring. Women's sex drives in their 40s/50s can be quite high, particularly following divorce. If this isn't for you at the moment that is also fine and maybe you both have to agree you aren't sexually compatible atm and find other partners. As a lot of men would jump at the chance of regular sex she is probably wondering why you're not and thinking it's something to do with not being attracted to her. Some men can get nervous around sexually confident women and they feel they won't "live up" to expectations. I just think you both aren't compatible in that department. I'm sure there are lots of women who would be happy with the amount of sex you would like and be more sympathetic to ED. I suggest you move on.

There is also the freedom of the risk of pregnancy being reduced. As younger women we were always told "no contraception is 100%" Menopause certainly is though.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 12/08/2024 21:35

Eatouttohelpout · 12/08/2024 19:14

Firstly, the term girlfriend in your 50s sounds a bit crass. Wouldnt partner be better? Secondly as you rightly say most men would be like a dog with two dicks being offered this chance so unless you get your plumbing sorted and start giving her what she wants she will have no trouble at all finding a man who is only too happy to oblige.

Helpful

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 12/08/2024 21:38

Cadela · 12/08/2024 20:37

Am I going mad or are women allowed to abuse men into fucking them to make themselves feel better when they should be paying for therapy, or are you all also abusive towards people who don’t want to have sex with you?

What am I reading on here?????

If it was men posting you’d be sick to your stomachs. Ashamed of you all.

Errrr, OK then

WhoOfWhoville · 12/08/2024 21:39

Mismatched sex drives, if you only see each other once a week or less, she’s not rapist to hope that you’ll have sex.

Neveranynamesleft · 12/08/2024 21:39

@Eatouttohelpout

Not helpful. OP isn't there just for the sex and has said so.

Notamum12345577 · 12/08/2024 21:40

@LaraThot Was thinking the same!

Cadela · 12/08/2024 22:22

WhoOfWhoville · 12/08/2024 21:39

Mismatched sex drives, if you only see each other once a week or less, she’s not rapist to hope that you’ll have sex.

Constantly coercing someone into having sex with emotional abuse is rape by the way.

Honestly, male violence against women is so high, but when men speak about their problems they don’t get support they get ‘hug her more, stroke her hair’.

The men that want help just get women telling them to put up and shut up. We actually can’t keep doing this.

We have to solve this issue. If we are part of the problem then how can we expect a solution?

WhoOfWhoville · 12/08/2024 22:27

Cadela · 12/08/2024 22:22

Constantly coercing someone into having sex with emotional abuse is rape by the way.

Honestly, male violence against women is so high, but when men speak about their problems they don’t get support they get ‘hug her more, stroke her hair’.

The men that want help just get women telling them to put up and shut up. We actually can’t keep doing this.

We have to solve this issue. If we are part of the problem then how can we expect a solution?

Well then the OP needs to have a very open and honest conversation with her about the apparently mismatched sex drives and how this is making them both feel, so they can decide if the current mismatch in frequency vs desire is sustainable for both of them.

Bettedaviseyes111 · 12/08/2024 22:35

Cadela · 12/08/2024 22:22

Constantly coercing someone into having sex with emotional abuse is rape by the way.

Honestly, male violence against women is so high, but when men speak about their problems they don’t get support they get ‘hug her more, stroke her hair’.

The men that want help just get women telling them to put up and shut up. We actually can’t keep doing this.

We have to solve this issue. If we are part of the problem then how can we expect a solution?

I don’t think anyone has said put up and shut up, what they’ve said is try and find a balance / solution or perhaps your sex drives just aren’t compatible and you need to both have a conversation about that.

Thats the same advice I would give to a woman in this situation.

Absolutely no one should feel they have to have sex, however you do need to be mature enough to consider if you are matched or not. Otherwise presumably the onus is on the other to “put up and shut up” feeling completely unfulfilled.

Cadela · 12/08/2024 22:54

WhoOfWhoville · 12/08/2024 22:27

Well then the OP needs to have a very open and honest conversation with her about the apparently mismatched sex drives and how this is making them both feel, so they can decide if the current mismatch in frequency vs desire is sustainable for both of them.

No the op needs people to be on their side.

if a man was coercively forcing me to have sex by using emotive language and saying he felt so ugly unless I fucked him you’d be screaming rape.

Just because a woman does it does not make it any different.

If it happened to you you would expect support. So why is it suddenly oh talk to her when it’s a woman doing it?

SunflowerTed · 12/08/2024 22:58

Franjipanl8r · 12/08/2024 19:25

No one should pressure someone else into sex. I’d get rid and find someone else. It doesn’t sound like a healthy relationship.

Has he said anywhere that she is pressuring him? It’s more disappointment when she sees her partner every other week. I don’t think she is being unreasonable. Maybe she needs to find somebody with a more aligned libido

Comedycook · 12/08/2024 22:58

Cadela · 12/08/2024 22:22

Constantly coercing someone into having sex with emotional abuse is rape by the way.

Honestly, male violence against women is so high, but when men speak about their problems they don’t get support they get ‘hug her more, stroke her hair’.

The men that want help just get women telling them to put up and shut up. We actually can’t keep doing this.

We have to solve this issue. If we are part of the problem then how can we expect a solution?

I think a huge issue is the fact that women are constantly told that all men want sex constantly.....there is actually never any discussion within society/media that actually men are like women, more complicated than that. However, as women are fed this message, when they meet a man who isn't totally rampant, she assumes she must be a truly hideous specimen as afteral men have a one track mind don't they?

H112 · 12/08/2024 22:59

Can see both sides here and but really - you are not compatable.

SunflowerTed · 12/08/2024 23:02

Cadela · 12/08/2024 20:43

Why should he show non-sexual affection when she’s using emotional abuse to force him in to fucking her???

Do you happily give your body up when a man hugs you and you don’t want it?

Wow!! She’s abusing him because she isn’t getting enough sex and us voicing her disappointment?!!!!!!!!

SunflowerTed · 12/08/2024 23:05

Cadela · 12/08/2024 22:22

Constantly coercing someone into having sex with emotional abuse is rape by the way.

Honestly, male violence against women is so high, but when men speak about their problems they don’t get support they get ‘hug her more, stroke her hair’.

The men that want help just get women telling them to put up and shut up. We actually can’t keep doing this.

We have to solve this issue. If we are part of the problem then how can we expect a solution?

People are so quick to use the word abuse these days! It’s so far off the mark in this case it’s ridiculous

SunflowerTed · 12/08/2024 23:08

Cadela · 12/08/2024 22:54

No the op needs people to be on their side.

if a man was coercively forcing me to have sex by using emotive language and saying he felt so ugly unless I fucked him you’d be screaming rape.

Just because a woman does it does not make it any different.

If it happened to you you would expect support. So why is it suddenly oh talk to her when it’s a woman doing it?

You’re very crude. Most people use the word sex or making love. Who is saying that she us bring coercive for wanting sex? God!

cupcaske123 · 12/08/2024 23:08

You're not compatible OP. Time to move on.

MonsteraMama · 12/08/2024 23:18

Just like my answer on the oh so clever thread with the genders swapped, sulking about sex is deeply, deeply unattractive and there's no need to be polite to someone pulling that kind of bullshit. "Well I'm not attracted to you at all when you're pouting like a child over not getting laid, honestly."

WallaceinAnderland · 12/08/2024 23:20

Lots of these threads about at the moment.

As I said on another one 'Stop trying to coerce me'.

And if they don't stop, leave.

Toasticles · 12/08/2024 23:21

"Not everything is about you....I am allowed to not want sex for my own reasons. But having said that, do you understand what a huge turnoff it is having you whining like a kid and making it all about you is when I say no to sex?"

DixonD · 12/08/2024 23:36

Cadela · 12/08/2024 20:43

Why should he show non-sexual affection when she’s using emotional abuse to force him in to fucking her???

Do you happily give your body up when a man hugs you and you don’t want it?

I don’t think that was what this poster was suggesting.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 12/08/2024 23:40

Eatouttohelpout · 12/08/2024 19:14

Firstly, the term girlfriend in your 50s sounds a bit crass. Wouldnt partner be better? Secondly as you rightly say most men would be like a dog with two dicks being offered this chance so unless you get your plumbing sorted and start giving her what she wants she will have no trouble at all finding a man who is only too happy to oblige.

Jesus Christ.

Southern68 · 13/08/2024 02:23

Speaking from personal experience of having a sex less marriage forced on me for 12 years, alongside alcoholism, I can say with certainty that it makes you extremely sensitive to perceived rejection. Have you had an honest conversation about this op?
Do you think the needles got stuck a bit?

Mirakolo · 13/08/2024 03:19

I think you're on the lower spectrum of libido, sex can be a destressor for some people. You should tell her you're too tired sometimes and accept shr might break up with you. Neither of you is unreasonable. I don't think average 50 something has your libido. You need a woman who wants less sex.

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