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Stingy restaurant behaviour has given me the ick

651 replies

HazelSchmazel · 04/08/2024 17:43

This afternoon, I went on a second date with a guy I met on Tinder. Wasn't too sure after the first date, but I thought I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

We had a nice meal and the bill was in the region of £50. When it was time to pay, I placed £30 (cash) in the middle of the table on the basis of £25 for my share and a £5 tip (our shares of food and drink were pretty much 50/50). He then proffered my £30 to the waiter, together with his credit card and said 'put £20 on my card'. So the poor waiting staff get no tip and my £5 effectively goes into his pocket!!! Uuuurgh - instant ick!

I should have said something, but I just wanted to get the fuck away from the knuckle dragger asap! Plus I was temporarily deaf from the thunderclap of my fanny slamming shut.

Now snuggled up with my cat, a bar of chocolate and am planning a Netflix binge, together with a future life of celibacy. Bliss!

Anyone else with a story of financially induced ick?

OP posts:
Clma · 08/08/2024 03:35

S0livagant · 04/08/2024 17:47

Are you in the UK? He might not have known you wanted to tip, it's not expected. He may have planned to buy you a drink on the next date to even it up.

Edited

Come off it. I've never met anyone in this country, other than tight miserable gits, who does not tip.

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 08/08/2024 07:01

I feel so sorry for the women here defending this goon. Why are your bars so low?! 😂

HazelSchmazel · 08/08/2024 08:05

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 08/08/2024 07:01

I feel so sorry for the women here defending this goon. Why are your bars so low?! 😂

I strongly suspect that a lot of the defenders are male

OP posts:
HazelSchmazel · 08/08/2024 08:13

Beljin · 08/08/2024 01:47

Really?

Am I the only one who got the ick reading that sentence? It's basically stating that she won't have sex with her date because he didn't spend enough. That's just one step away from being a sugar babe.

I am leaving this thread now because of the nasty, misogynistic attacks.

Huge thanks to all the lovely women (and @Daverl1980 !) who have contributed x

OP posts:
NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 08/08/2024 09:15

NonsuchCastle · 08/08/2024 03:19

Because not everyone is obsessed with money and making sure they have not been swindled. It's a fiver FFS.

So paying for YOUR OWN meal is being "obsessed with money"??

How can paying for what you yourself have looked at on the menu, decided to order and then EATEN, be being "swindled"?

Priceless 😂

You can definitely see the tightwads on this thread, who are no doubt still single and posting from their mum's basement lol

SamW98 · 08/08/2024 09:29

NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 08/08/2024 09:15

So paying for YOUR OWN meal is being "obsessed with money"??

How can paying for what you yourself have looked at on the menu, decided to order and then EATEN, be being "swindled"?

Priceless 😂

You can definitely see the tightwads on this thread, who are no doubt still single and posting from their mum's basement lol

Edited

Honestly the hoops some will jump through in order to penis pander is laughable

It reminds me that the first rule of misogyny is that whatever men do it’s women’s fault apparently

🤦‍♀️

Greyrockin · 08/08/2024 10:00

HazelSchmazel · 08/08/2024 08:13

I am leaving this thread now because of the nasty, misogynistic attacks.

Huge thanks to all the lovely women (and @Daverl1980 !) who have contributed x

I’m sorry it came to this @HazelSchmazel. MN really is a vipers nest at times and threads are constantly derailed, MNHQ are letting trolling nasty posts stand more often than not now. Anyway, rest assured that you are right and your date was a nob, but maybe put him in touch with some of the above tight arse posters, I think they would get on well.

i hope your next date is amazing.

NonsuchCastle · 08/08/2024 13:14

NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 08/08/2024 09:15

So paying for YOUR OWN meal is being "obsessed with money"??

How can paying for what you yourself have looked at on the menu, decided to order and then EATEN, be being "swindled"?

Priceless 😂

You can definitely see the tightwads on this thread, who are no doubt still single and posting from their mum's basement lol

Edited

I believe you have completely misunderstood what I wrote.

NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 08/08/2024 20:29

NonsuchCastle · 08/08/2024 13:14

I believe you have completely misunderstood what I wrote.

Nope.

Understood 100%, wasn't too difficult - you are hardly Dostoevsky

jwilson22 · 08/08/2024 21:04

S0livagant · 04/08/2024 17:47

Are you in the UK? He might not have known you wanted to tip, it's not expected. He may have planned to buy you a drink on the next date to even it up.

Edited

Uk or not he knew exactly her intentions

NonsuchCastle · 08/08/2024 21:53

NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 08/08/2024 20:29

Nope.

Understood 100%, wasn't too difficult - you are hardly Dostoevsky

What on earth are you talking about?

GoldZebra · 08/08/2024 23:17

SamW98 · 07/08/2024 11:52

Not me but a friend went on a first date at a pub that does food. Her date looked at menu and said ‘oh I didn’t think it would cost this much’ - it was normal pub food prices !! So she said ‘don’t worry I’ll pay for mine’ and he replied ‘I’ve only got a tenner’

Who the fuck turns up on a first date with a tenner???

So she said would you like a walk instead and we can find a cafe for coffee? So they start walking and he spots a Greggs and says to her ‘shall we get a sausage roll and sit in the bench?’

At this point she just said ‘let’s call this off’ and went back to the pub for a solo glass of wine

SamW98
'Shall we get a sausage roll' - singular?

I'm picturing the scene from Lady and the Tramp where they eat the spaghetti and meet in the middle 😂

NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 08/08/2024 23:19

NonsuchCastle · 08/08/2024 21:53

What on earth are you talking about?

Oh lordy, it's like talking to a child....

I DID NOT MISUNDERSTAND YOU, I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT. YOUR WORDS WERE CLEAR - WRONG, BUT CLEAR. NOT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.

I won't reply to you again.

NonsuchCastle · 08/08/2024 23:27

NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 08/08/2024 23:19

Oh lordy, it's like talking to a child....

I DID NOT MISUNDERSTAND YOU, I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT. YOUR WORDS WERE CLEAR - WRONG, BUT CLEAR. NOT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.

I won't reply to you again.

Oh no! I shall never sleep again.

Nanny0gg · 09/08/2024 01:02

NonsuchCastle · 06/08/2024 18:46

But why are you so convinced that he's a tight arse? People are merely pointing out other possibilities.

This is not making excuses. This is called not jumping to conclusions. I can see myself doing the same as he did (I'm a woman) and I am in no way a tight arse. It's $5 FFS.

HE STOLETOOK £5 OF OP'S MONEY

NonsuchCastle · 09/08/2024 01:04

Nanny0gg · 09/08/2024 01:02

HE STOLETOOK £5 OF OP'S MONEY

I understand. Your opinion, of which you are convinced, is that he deliberately stole her money. I was merely pointing out other possibiltiies. I don't know what was in his mind.

Nanny0gg · 09/08/2024 01:07

NonsuchCastle · 09/08/2024 01:04

I understand. Your opinion, of which you are convinced, is that he deliberately stole her money. I was merely pointing out other possibiltiies. I don't know what was in his mind.

He took her tip to make up his half.

Why would he assume she was paying for him?

NoThanksymm · 09/08/2024 19:39

Depends what you ate too. Was your portion of the bill actually 30? Get the more expensive stuff?

maybe he figured you weren’t tipping and was avoiding hurting your feelings.

but Totally get your point especially if you are the less expensive stuff, AND paid half, and he took the tip.

although an ‘oh sorry, figured we were splitting, that extra 5 was for the waitress’

even then, he should have paid more of the bill on card and left the wait staff the cash.

NoThanksymm · 09/08/2024 19:45

lol. Sorry. Just saw you had the same dish!

hahaha. Well I still would’ve made my comment around that being for the wait staff, clearly he’s oblivious.

When he asked for a third did you call him out? Sorry, you taking the wait staffs tip last time really made me uncomfortable. This won’t work. Not like you have a relationship with them to protect.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 10/08/2024 16:24

@Theoldlife Ok doll, if you like

It's not just me, everyone else is saying the same. Ok Tight Arse.

Disturbia81 · 10/08/2024 17:09

I don't tip, I can't afford to and they're earning the same as me. It's not expected in the UK, I don't know many who do tip

But yes him contributing less like that would give me the ick too! And just assuming

Theoldlife · 10/08/2024 17:22

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 10/08/2024 16:24

@Theoldlife Ok doll, if you like

It's not just me, everyone else is saying the same. Ok Tight Arse.

They aren’t. I suggest you read the responses.

Also, I haven’t said anything about my tipping habits (except that I always tip my nail lady).

I said it isn’t necessary or expected here, which is true. You don’t know where I live, the circles I move in, or the kind of places I eat so you can’t know what is usual.

But don’t let that stop you throwing insults around.

Pemba · 10/08/2024 17:29

I think it is expected in the UK, but not absolutely demanded like in the USA, where the waiting staff are prepared to chase you down the street if you don't tip at least 20%! (I think that is wrong BTW, how are customers to show their displeasure at bad service? Also, restaurant owners should pay their workers properly!)

But I do think most people in the UK nowadays feel a bit embarrassed unless they leave at least 10%, unless the service is crap.

SamW98 · 10/08/2024 17:34

I’m in my 50’s and I think I can count on one hand the people I’ve been to dinner with who haven’t tipped. And it’s so unusual that I can remember who they are because they stood out like a sore thumb from what’s normal for most people.

Tipping is absolutely the norm in the UK. Even if not the 10% commonly seen as the standard figure, then leaving some change in cash is normal.

I don’t think Ive been anywhere home or abroad where leaving a tip isn’t the cultural norm.

AnnetteDe · 10/08/2024 18:11

S0livagant · 04/08/2024 17:47

Are you in the UK? He might not have known you wanted to tip, it's not expected. He may have planned to buy you a drink on the next date to even it up.

Edited

I'm in the UK and the only time I would ever dream of not tipping is if the bill specifically states that service is included.

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