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Husband being nasty about my past

370 replies

Cockaleedoddleydoo · 15/07/2024 21:57

My husband has been really strange recently.
Keeps asking me questions about my past, bringing things up that I said years ago and generally being horrible about it.

So, from the very beginning, I've always been honest with him about everything. He knew from very early on about all my previous relationships, sexual history ect, which I think is all very normal. He was fine with it then. Went on to marry me so must have been!⁶

For some reason he is now deciding he isn't okay with a lot of things, is very insecure and angry and is blaming me for my past.

I won't mention everything because it will be too long. But for example,
The other night he kept asking me questions about this one guy that I was seeing before him (it wasn't even serious).
Apparently I'd said that he was handsome when we saw him on a night out 8 years ago when we were first dating. I vaguely remember this. Not a great comment from me but I had had a few drinks and this guy had said hi to me and my husband had mentioned how unattractive he was (he isn't at all). He knew I had been with him, I got a bit defensive and said he isn't. I get why that is annoying but it was also 8 bloody years ago. Who cares now?!

He kept saying how I would still be with him if he hadn't had a girlfriend( he didn't tell me this and I ended it when I found out).

There was a bit of back and forth and I went to bed after getting fed up.

He stormed in, risked waking me and the baby up, saying "is he the one you sent that photo to?" (I told him years ago I'd sent one photo my entire life of myself in my underwear). I said yes.

He stormed out and the next day was fuming. Wouldn't speak to me at first, then began saying how he must have been so special, I should have kept my clothes on, I should be ashamed ect.

He is annoyed because he has asked me to send photos in the past but I've always said I don't like to, it makes me uncomfortable and I just don't want to. I have done it a few times but never was something I was into or wanted. I did it for him. But it's not good enough apparently because I only did it after years of him asking...

He asked why I did it for this other guy (only one picture and nothing rude), I told him I didn't want to either, I felt pressured and was too young and silly to say no.

I feel I have the right to say no now even if I did in the past? And it was only once anyway.

I don't feel I should be pressured into sending photos when I'm not comfortable. He is my husband and should respect that surely.

I feel like he has no respect for me. He shames me and makes me feel guilty about having a past, which I feel is just normal relationship stuff as anyone would have experienced.

It's like he's so disappointed in me for being with other people. I shouldn't have told him about them but it was years ago and he asked me!! I wanted to be honest and now it's being held against me.

I don't know why or where this has all come from? Why is he worried about this random guy. Saying things like, why don't you marry him instead, why would you do that for him and not me?

There's been many other similar outbursts. It's so exhausting and it feels really unfair. He makes me feel like I'm not good enough because of my history and I can't change it. He's so angry and jealous. I've been completely faithful and loyal to him since we met. I don't know what his problem is lately. It's come out of nowhere

Sorry, I really just need to rant.

OP posts:
sunflowrsngunpowdr · 19/07/2024 18:00

This sounds like he has gone down the Andrew Tate / Kevin Samuel / MGTOW / incel corner of YouTube.

hihelenhi · 19/07/2024 18:06

sunflowrsngunpowdr · 19/07/2024 18:00

This sounds like he has gone down the Andrew Tate / Kevin Samuel / MGTOW / incel corner of YouTube.

Yup.

Abusive, weak, losers, all.

Gogotso · 19/07/2024 18:06

No wayyy this happened to me tooooo!!!! I posted on Facebook on a Narcissist exposed page and he was right there. He begged me to get a hotel, thank god he wasn't and is not my husband and never will be.

hihelenhi · 19/07/2024 18:11

"He begged me to get a hotel".

Sorry, I don't understand what this means. This doesn't sound quite like the OP's situation. Her husband, who has been watching misogynist Andrew Tate type videos (which are mostly about subjugating women), has taken her phone and appears "angry", she thinks because she's daring to talk to other women on Mumsnet about his behaviour, which seems abusive and controlling.

Elle2018 · 19/07/2024 18:20

@Cockaleedoddleydoo

"Guys,
I was looking at these replies a little whole ago. Sorry I haven't had a chance to respond yet. Thanks all for taking the time..

But..I just asked my husband where my phone was and he took it out his pocket. I asked what's wrong and he said he'll talk to me later. I looked and this thread was up so he's probably read it all."

Hopefully it will give him a bit of a wake up call to how much of a prick he's being!

hihelenhi · 19/07/2024 18:26

Elle2018 · 19/07/2024 18:20

@Cockaleedoddleydoo

"Guys,
I was looking at these replies a little whole ago. Sorry I haven't had a chance to respond yet. Thanks all for taking the time..

But..I just asked my husband where my phone was and he took it out his pocket. I asked what's wrong and he said he'll talk to me later. I looked and this thread was up so he's probably read it all."

Hopefully it will give him a bit of a wake up call to how much of a prick he's being!

Then he should be seeming sorry and embarrassed, not "angry".

Kerkyra2024 · 19/07/2024 18:29

He's angry because everyone else is seeing through his bullshit and giving you advice. He probably feels he's 'losing control' of you by you being given this advice. Please try getting out for your your safety and for your children he's no doubt the type to try brainwashing them with the stuff he's been watching.

BouquetGarni224 · 19/07/2024 18:31

Taking your phone and reading through it is just more disrespect, arrogance, treating you like a child, or subordinate etc.
"I own you, I'm the boss and I can do what I like, you have no privacy from me" etc seem to be his core values.

Oh and the hope that he might wise up from eg reading this thread is futile.

We will be slutty, lonely, failed, unattractive , low quality, bitter, cat ladies.

If we happen to be married or an an LTR, our partners will be cucks, losers and beta men.

If we have careers, we'll be "acting like a man".

Etc etc.

BouquetGarni224 · 19/07/2024 18:37

Kerkyra2024 · 19/07/2024 18:29

He's angry because everyone else is seeing through his bullshit and giving you advice. He probably feels he's 'losing control' of you by you being given this advice. Please try getting out for your your safety and for your children he's no doubt the type to try brainwashing them with the stuff he's been watching.

Yeah he hoped he'd get to brainwash you without alternative/conflicting opinions.

I remember the pained & freaked out look on the face of a sexist, controlling, possessive etc nan I dated when - in the middle of him promoting his in-laws values & lifestyle as ideal, I said "Yeah, they like born again Christians or fundamentalist Christians really; they're the only people I know who are like them".

He was speechless and I could see the (very slow) cogs in his brain working to process what it meant (that I couldn't be brainwashed) and what tack to take next.

He was another one who though I should explain and justify every bit of sexual contact I had outside marriage or significant ltrs ..... Meanwhile he apparently didn't need to explain or justify his. I was likewise supposed to have been "owned" by him and have made my decisions around his wants & views; before I had met him, and while he was not single himself.

WoolySnail · 19/07/2024 18:59

Cockaleedoddleydoo · 19/07/2024 17:21

Guys,
I was looking at these replies a little whole ago. Sorry I haven't had a chance to respond yet. Thanks all for taking the time..

But..I just asked my husband where my phone was and he took it out his pocket. I asked what's wrong and he said he'll talk to me later. I looked and this thread was up so he's probably read it all.

Good, hopefully he can see what a stupid wanker he is!!

On a more serious note please make sure you are safe xx

Dillydollydingdong · 19/07/2024 19:03

He's feeling guilty about something (I wonder what??) and he's trying to take it out on you.

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 19/07/2024 19:20

I hope you're safe OP.

Be careful. He will try and tell you that MN has brainwashed you to hate men.

Daleksatemyshed · 19/07/2024 19:35

So now you know who he really is Op, not the apparently nice man you married and who fathered your DC, not anymore. Now he thinks he should control your life, who you speak to, and all because he thinks he's better than you. He's not a good man, he wants to shame you for something you can't possibly change, because that way he thinks you'll be sad and guilty and he can get his own way.
Time to go Op, no coming back from shit like this

mathanxiety · 19/07/2024 19:39

Cockaleedoddleydoo · 15/07/2024 22:27

I said in anger yesterday that I'd do it again (send that photo to the guy) he kept asking why I did it, so I just snapped and said I don't care, I don't regret it, I'd do it again. As in, it's not a big deal type thing
His response was. You're gonna make a great single mum all sarcastic and horrible.

So I think if I said anything about leaving, he'd just respond like that.

But it's not okay is it. I haven't done anything wrong

So don't say anything.

Just make your plans and leave.

This isn't going to get better.

Stop engaging with him on this subject. He's winding you up and spoiling for a fight. His reasons may involve another woman or a strong attraction to someone else, or insane jealousy over the baby that he has transferred or projected onto your 'past'. Either way, he's abusing you and subjecting your baby to abuse too.

Just stop engaging, and find a way to get out.

mathanxiety · 19/07/2024 19:39

ShortColdandGrey · 15/07/2024 22:51

Has it started since you fell pregnant or had the baby? That is unfortunately when abusive men start to show their true colours.

Yes to this.

mathanxiety · 19/07/2024 19:41

Aquamarine1029 · 15/07/2024 23:12

The next time he says something, which will be soon, tell him to never, ever speak that way to you again. Completely shut him down. Don't ever tolerate this shit again.

Once that is said, you need to leave him. As soon as humanly possible.

Agree 100%.

Gnrdave · 19/07/2024 19:46

Nanny0gg · 19/07/2024 11:12

You need to own your decisions

You decided to forgive her.

Unless there is real evidence rather than your perception then you need to accept he's just a colleague

Why didn't you ask her to move away from him when the affair came to light?

Its not my place to make her do anything or to make any choice for her, that's her place and decision. As i said, I don't think anything is going on but the past never disappears and forgiving does not mean forgetting

Jbdollyday · 19/07/2024 19:52

Cockaleedoddleydoo · 15/07/2024 22:53

Yes. And the thing that's upsetting me is that he seemed fine and suddenly now isn't. It's too late now. I've been such a good wife I feel liken and I'm being punished for things that happened before I even knew him.

Oh no this makes me sad to see you say you have been such a good wife ☹️. I have only slept with my husband and I couldn’t give a flying fuck who he slept with and if I had of slept with other people so what he had had as well - you are only sleeping with him now and that is the only thing that matters you could sleep with the town previously but as long as you are not when you are with him why should it matter? Am I missing something or do men think it’s still ok for them to fuck women before marriage but not women to fuck men?? If so who would they fuck?? It amazes me honestly - the only reason I haven’t is because I met him when I was 17 otherwise …….!

Elasticatedtrousers · 19/07/2024 20:01

@Cockaleedoddleydoo i hope he’s worked out how to find this thread through his own means and not snooping on you because hopefully he’ll see he’s being a complete and utter arsehole in the comments since your last update.

He doesn’t deserve you! And sorry to say but my first thought is he’s devaluing you for an affair. Absolutely common and utterly predictable!

SataraSahara · 19/07/2024 20:04

@Cockaleedoddleydoo I am getting seriously bad vibes about this situation. He's already engaging in emotionally abusive and controlling behaviours and I'm concerned he might escalate. Is there any way anyone could be with you tonight? Could you and the kids stay elsewhere?

Cockaleedoddleydoo · 19/07/2024 20:16

May need a new thread....

OP posts:
BouquetGarni224 · 19/07/2024 23:59

Cockaleedoddleydoo · 19/07/2024 17:21

He seems angry

Oh now you'll be "airing our dirty laundry in public" and "telling strangers our business".

Nah mate, you're abusing your wife.

She needs perspective and support.

You're the one who's put her in this position.

You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

BouquetGarni224 · 20/07/2024 00:32

Gnrdave · 19/07/2024 19:46

Its not my place to make her do anything or to make any choice for her, that's her place and decision. As i said, I don't think anything is going on but the past never disappears and forgiving does not mean forgetting

You should just get into a relationship with a woman who hasn't cheated on you.

It speaks of low integrity.
That may rear its head again.

There is no shortage of women, in fact it's clear from on here that there are so many nice, decent women (who've usually had to leave abusive, cheating etc men ) looking for partners. You can find some you're attracted to.

You don't need to settle for a cheater and have that cloud over you.

biscuitandcake · 20/07/2024 00:45

Gnrdave · 19/07/2024 19:46

Its not my place to make her do anything or to make any choice for her, that's her place and decision. As i said, I don't think anything is going on but the past never disappears and forgiving does not mean forgetting

Kindly, this thread is not Gndrave's therapy thread to help him overcome the pain of being cheated on. Of course bring your personal experiences if you think they are relevant. But otherwise its going to derail into a discussion of women who cheat and it's not at a relevant to the person who posted their problem.

biscuitandcake · 20/07/2024 00:49

@Cockaleedoddleydoo do you have anyone in real life to talk to about this? Sometimes people can be a bit slow to "get" what the issue is but likewise real life friends/family who are sensible and can help you keep a handle on the truth (that you are not a bad or worthless person) can be invaluable. That's as well as posting in this thread not instead - but supportive people who know you can really help. Don't bottle it up, especially not to protect him.