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Anyone else trying not not to contact a guy part 2??

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YouAreAllMySymmetry · 20/06/2024 21:51

Hey loves @namechangeforthis5 @Frith2013 and whoever else I can think of.

How we all doing?

I'm having a weird night; I've been drinking and guess what skill it reminded me I've developed: crying out of one eye. It means that people generally don't notice, in the car, or lying on the couch or in bed.

That's sad, isn't it.

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NeedToAskPlease · 22/06/2024 20:16

He gave me the "green light" when he said how much he wanted me at that moment...and so we did it.

So I don't think he needed much convincing

Patchworkskirt · 22/06/2024 23:22

Hi all new to the thread hope its okay. I'm only day 2 of no contact. I ended it after he became distant, went very quite suddenly changed his online status on fb and whatsapp so it couldn't be seen. Wouldn't answer calls or reply to msgs would text once a day as he was apparently sleeping all the time. I have no definitive proof but I believe he was talking to someone else or having doubts. I'm heartbroken its harder without the proof u think uve made a massive mistake. I loved him we have been through so much and wer long distance in a way so I guess I'm used to not seeing him but I just miss his company I miss his texts, his little gifs, I miss his voice 😔 I want to be wrong I want him to reach out but hey hoe no such luck

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 22/06/2024 23:32

Hey guys. Of course you're all welcome. It fucking sucks but welcome to the club...

It's really hard. I want to say it comes in waves but...does it? It's like I'm always swimming against his tide; he lives in me. I wake up every day with my stomach crunched in on itself, no matter how long it's been since we've been in touch.

I don't know. No idea what else to say. I've had a lovely day doing my own things with lovely people, but I'm lying in bed with music on and every song is so redolent of him.

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Patchworkskirt · 23/06/2024 08:25

@YouAreAllMySymmetry i find that its like everything relates. I haven't yet blocked him so seen he was out last night as of course posting pictures which was a bit upsetting. I dont really talk to friends i moved a few months ago and haven't rly been socializing since I moved really. Tbh this us probably the right thing for me I was trying to meet him every 2 weeks flying to him or him to me in a way I'm trying to move on with my life move house I have my dc which he didn't get on with but its still hard going back to him was my escape from reality a break work and struggles when I was with him I could he me otherwise I feel like im just robotic its hard to explain, im emotionless I guess think im going to go for counselling to help with that

anxiousaboutlettinggo · 23/06/2024 10:53

@YouAreAllMySymmetry
Thanks for starting the thread

Unfortunately I caved in after my last post but I'm keeping a measured distance. Not replying quickly etc. I'm trying to feel in control.

I keep convincing myself I'll wean myself off on my terms

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 23/06/2024 11:08

Same here @anxiousaboutlettinggo

It is lessening just sloooooooowly.

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cadburyegg · 23/06/2024 12:13

This isn't quite the same but thought this was an appropriate thread to vent on. I had a date with a guy on Friday, got the sense that he wasn't into me but I text yesterday to say thanks for dinner and ask how his Saturday was going. He didn't reply, which is what I thought would happen tbh. I've only gone and accidentally video called him. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I've sent another text saying oh sorry for the accidental call! Now I'm worried I just look like a stalker! As if I needed to give him another reason not to get in touch with me 😭🤦‍♀️

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 23/06/2024 12:23

Oh no @cadburyegg 😆

Never mind. If he's not into you, you'll never have to hear what he thinks. And if you end up married it's a cute story!

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NeedToAskPlease · 24/06/2024 05:31

So .... he has finally messaged saying how busy he is, how he has only been able to keep up with a couple of friends conversations... blah blah blah.

As much as l want to see him, I'm not going to ask when we're next meeting. If he wanted to see me, he'd make time.

Or am l cutting my nose off?

I am an organised person and he isn't which is why he seems to get overwhelmed with normal "adulting"

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 24/06/2024 06:32

He's had to make the terrible choice of who to keep in touch with, and you sadly didn't make the cut? What bullshit.

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namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 11:25

Hi all. 3 weeks today! He’s there in my head but trying to keep busy. Keep thinking I miss him but it’s not that

Bloodylegoeverywhere · 24/06/2024 13:07

I'm stuck in the thick of it, always messaging each other. we work close to each other. I have a good home life so why am I self sabotaging my family life by having feelings for someone else!?

namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 13:09

I don’t know but getting out of it does help you see that it’s not real

Bloodylegoeverywhere · 24/06/2024 13:13

namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 13:09

I don’t know but getting out of it does help you see that it’s not real

You are right, it's making that decision and staying away. He even got bloody engaged and made out he was going to tell me. I know he's a dick and if he really cared he wouldn't of started a relationship with someone else and make me the ow. When I'm not in it, I'm more level, less obsessed but then I cave. Jeez its ridiculous isn't it. We said we would try to just be friends... but considering we were more than friends a long time ago. You can't really be friends with someone you have feelings for can you?

namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 13:13

And don’t get me wrong. I really want to message him and feel it all again but I’m not ruining my marriage

Jennyjojo5 · 24/06/2024 13:13

It’s sooo hard! I cut contact with a guy I was chatting to (only met him once 🙄 but we chatted for hours most days)z I stopped replying in April and for a few weeks it was haarrrrd not to text but now I barely think of him tbh. You’ll all get there in the end x

im sure he’ll pop up in a text in future; whether that’s tomorrow or a years time. But I’m not quite ready to block him yet. Nearly 3 months down the line and I’m happy with my choice to stop replying back in April

namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 13:19

I am halfway to where you are. We also tried to be friends but he kept sending me sexy texts and dick pics and I’m not doing that. If we can be friends then that’s fine but I’m not straying into that crap again. The excitement of it is good but I’m just not doing it to my husband and his wife. @Bloodylegoeverywhere honestly you know you need to fuck him off. He’s showing you and her zero respect and really do any of us want to give the time of day to men who treat women like this. I used to think I was special that he was doing this with me and he swore he wasn’t doing it with anyone else but he had a reputation at work so I reckon I was the latest. He vehemently denied this but why would they make it up. He also told me once he went for a happy ending massage then said he was joking. That gave me the ick big time but I still stayed in touch with him.

Thewookiemustgo · 24/06/2024 17:13

@namechangeforthis5 you are doing really well! You seem to have such a good grasp on the truth of these situations and the ‘fantasy’ aspect of them. “Once you’re out of it you’ll see it’s not real” is spot on.
My husband had an affair and the second the reality button hit, it imploded the whole thing and his words to me later were “I couldn’t believe how fast it turned to shit”. His limerance was based on the secrecy thrill, the ‘game’ aspect of it. He said he realised with hindsight that it could have been anybody, it was the attention and the risky situation he was getting off on. It’s pretty likely that those of you in affair situations are hooked on each other and the thrill, but if the shit hit the fan would you dump your spouses/ partners and run off into the sunset? Or be horrified and desperate not to lose your family lives?
Any time you are scratching your heads as to why you can’t stop this, what it is about these men that keeps you obsessing, Google emotional affairs and limerance. As long as it all remains secret, you are afforded the luxury of the contact, obsessing, longing and the high of the risk.
The risk, however, is very high indeed and although everyone always thinks nobody could ever find out, they very usually do. Mumsnet is full of it.
Imagine the fallout to everyone if the texts and photos are found, if somebody at work notices and tells others. At some point it might find it’s way back to his wife or your husband. Or if one of your children see your phone screen or overhear you. I know somebody this happened to.
Carnage, there’s no pain like it. Nobody gets spared.
I’m honestly not judging, I get how these things happen and how they work, it could happen to anyone. This is only for those trying to get out of affair situations, to clarify, I know others here on this thread are not involved in infidelity.
Please, please believe me, one day you might not have a choice of staying in your family life whilst trying to stop texting. The texting will be what takes it all away from you, or even if you’re lucky enough to get a second chance, it will never be the same as it is now.
I wish you all luck with stopping, I know it’s very, very hard to quit an obsession, but this thrill and bittersweet longing feeling will evaporate for one or both of you involved and you’ll never understand what the hell you were thinking if you ever get discovered.

namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 20:10

@Thewookiemustgo thank you so much for your kind and cleverly put words. Honestly I do keep feeling like I want to message but I won’t do it because I know it would eventually hurt so many people and he’s the kind of person who would walk away unscathed and leave everything to me to deal with. I just wish I’d been stronger before but I admit I like the attention and the excitement but he’s a bit of a dick with nice moments and not worth it. Not being horrible but I remember saying to him I was happily going about my life before I met you. Plus he’s had plenty of opportunities to see me and never has so he obviously can’t be arsed. He just wants the attention as well. I’m really sorry Wookie that your DH had an affair. How are things now? You sound a very strong person. I really appreciate your words to me and not judging me x

Frith2013 · 24/06/2024 21:34

I've had to contact mine today about a joint thing someone else is setting up.

I sent him a message then much later sent it as a text, because he had "no data" when I last made contact.

It a reasonably important message and will involve having to contact another person if he can't do it.

Can you guess what has happened...?

NO REPLY!

If it wasn't so mean and sad, it would be quite funny.

namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 21:54

Is that a work thing? A it doesn’t count and b he’s a dick for not answering that

Frith2013 · 24/06/2024 22:01

No, it's a hobby thing.

If he doesn't want to do the hobby thing, I need to speak to someone else. Hence I am waiting for his reply.

This has really brought it back, how tense it was ever trying to communicate with him.

Thewookiemustgo · 24/06/2024 22:39

Christ this ended up a long post- feel free to ignore it all, sorry!

You’re welcome @namechangeforthis5. Nobody has the right to judge anyone who honestly owns their own behaviour and is trying to improve and put things right.
Just because my husband had an affair and I didn’t cheat on him, doesn’t mean I haven’t ever found anybody else attractive during our long marriage or had offers and opportunities. I get how it can happen.
Before I met my husband, when when I was 19 at Uni I had a horrible limerant situation with a total shit and I doggedly lied to myself to convince myself he wasn’t. I was bloody obsessed.
He reappeared out of the woodwork twenty years later when Friends Reunited started. Unbelievable! Told me all the crap about never having forgotten about me and remembering everything and being desperate to see me again. He had been married for years by then with two teenage kids. Pathetic. His poor wife. 🙄
But by God I couldn’t see it originally. I thought he was a poor trapped soul with the wrong girl and if I just hung on he’d see the light and dump his girlfriend for me. Pah. Didn’t think for a minute that him cheating with me said anything about his behaviour, he was a saint as far as I was concerned. I also selfishly never considered her. Didn’t think for a minute about my part in sneaking around and sleeping with him behind her back. He was her long term boyfriend but I knew what I was doing, I wasn’t blameless. I was a horrible person. He then said he had ended it with her (she was at another Uni) because I was threatening to end it, but I found out a few weeks later they’d actually got engaged! Twat. It took months and months to get past that and kill the obsession, even though he’d been a complete bastard to me and her.
Cheating is sadly pretty common if my friends and family are anything to go by. But then people tend to confide in me a lot so maybe I know a lot more than most.
It was hell working through the carnage after his affair and his lying and shame. We’re way better now, it was five years ago and we prioritise our relationship now way more than we did. Work, career, children and a hectic life meant we relied on the fact that we’d always loved each other very much, been happy and rock solid to be the glue for the marriage, whilst the marriage itself took a back seat compared to all of the above. There are no excuses for what he did, however, but whilst the fallout from the affair was being dealt with, it was all helped a lot by the way we stopped taking the marriage for granted and made time for each other again. It’s been a lot of fun doing that and everything is way better. Our kids are still prioritised but the marriage is valued way more highly than before.
Every relationship needs work and attention. We had a great marriage but didn’t see that it was only great because before the children came along we prioritised it and each other. We just thought it was strong in its own right so when we got busy we thought it would just always sit there being great, because it was great, right? It would still be great and ready to pick up again when the kids got older and work got less hectic and we had more time. Wrong! You need to make the time, actively seek each other out in the busy-ness, check in on each other. The love was still there, bigtime, but the time for each other was not. We both thought each other was fine. We both thought we were both satisfied.
The big draw of the affair was the attention, the flattery, new sex with a much younger woman on a plate, he felt young, (he wasn’t 😂) attractive, looked up to and it was exciting. He chose not to say no and he pursued it. The affair then became his infatuation and obsession. It gained so much momentum that when he woke up and wanted out his AP was hooked and thought he loved her and was going to leave me. She could have ended up like any one of those of you who are now scratching your heads at their apparently inexplicable turnaround and lack of contact.
The fact is that some affairs can be nothing more than a high, finding an exciting feeling again, chasing a feeling, become an obsession. More like a drug than a serious life choice. When the bubble bursts in the majority of cases people feel horrified at themselves, ashamed and foolish and wonder what the heck they were thinking so they end it, distance themselves and move on with far less trouble than the other person. They no longer want the relationship, it’s now a source of shame not excitement, but to the other person it was everything and now it’s gone. Nobody escapes the pain, no matter how much it is deserved or undeserved.
The other party believed they were loved, and it takes a while for the penny to drop that it was probably bollocks and they were the midlife crisis crutch for an older man who had no intention of leaving his wife or carrying on the affair indefinitely. They are relieved and move on, want their old life back, the AP is still hooked and trying not to obsess and keeps hoping they’ll get back in touch.
No excuses for any of this. He was an arsehole and an utter shit and he knows it and owned full reponsibility for it. He blames nothing and nobody except himself.
Very sad that it took nearly losing me and his kids to realise what he actually had, it did no end of damage and sadly still does occasionally, memories or triggers can crop up even now, which still hurt like hell.
It really doesn’t matter what anybody thinks about their relationship, or its quality, or how badly they are being treated. It doesn’t matter what anybody’s FOO or personal issues are. None of this causes cheating. Cheating happens when somebody chooses to do it, it’s that simple.
For thise for whom this is relevant, prioritise your marriage again, give the same time and energy you give your obsession to your primary relationship, it’s amazing how taking time for each other improves things exponentially.
Our relationship was 40 years old this year, we’re coming up to our 35th wedding anniversary. It’s not perfect, it’s very battle scarred, but it’s been well worth saving, whatever people say about LTB. I don’t regret it.

namechangeforthis5 · 24/06/2024 22:45

@Frith2013 couldn’t someone else have messaged him?. Honestly I think you need to not message him again. It’s his loss
@Thewookiemustgo i really appreciate you writing all that. You sound amazing honestly. My DH and I have a great relationship but I think we did stop communicating a bit and this guy gave me attention. I never could have gone through with anything with him though. He made me feel I was boring if I didn’t do certain things and I wanted to impress him. I feel pathetic now though. You all have no idea how much this thread has changed my life

Frith2013 · 24/06/2024 22:58

@namechangeforthis5 I wish someone else could message him . Unfortunately, if I asked anyone else, they would ask me why I can't do it! I can hardly explain why not...

Really annoyed now.

Luckily there won't be any need to contact him again in the near future.

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