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H has suddenly decided he's leaving me

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Solost200 · 19/06/2024 19:12

H and I have been together for over 11 years, married for 8 and we have 3 DCs together.

We were happy, and I honestly can't see any reason for this to have happened. In half term, we booked a once-in-a-lifetime holiday for the family for this time next year. On Sunday, we had a lovely Father's Day, and he seemed happy.
On Monday, he was a bit quiet when he came home from work, but he said it was just a busy day and nothing major. He was just not as jokey as usual, but it didn't seem like anything huge.

Yesterday, he left for work as normal, said goodbye, and I love you to me and the DCS. I took the kids to school and went to a work meeting. I got back home at lunchtime to a letter on the kitchen table saying that he was leaving me.

He's not been happy for a while, struggling with family life. He wants more freedom, and he's sorry, but he can't be with me anymore. He will carry on paying his share of the bills, and he wants the DCs for his annual family holiday in the Summer, but I can decide how often he has the kids apart from that.

No mention of what happens next or if he's coming to see the DCs at all. So I tried calling and texting him all afternoon, and he wouldn't reply, and I was starting to get really worried that he was having some sort of breakdown and was going to do something stupid.

So after around 5 hours I called his mum and she told me that he has just arrived at ILS house from work. He won't tell her whats happened just that he is staying with them for a while while he sorts himself out. I explain what had happened and she says she will talk to him. An hour later he sends me a text saying that I shouldn't involve his family in "our" business.

Admittedly I saw red at that point and sent him a long text pointing out that I was worried about him, that we need to talk, that he can't just leave me a letter and expect me to just quietly accept this when we haven't talked about anything and he hadn't told me how he was feeling. That I need to know whats happening and we need to talk. If he really needs a break, then we need to talk to the DCs about what's happening together.

He replied saying that he wasn't going to talk to me until I calm down. That I can tell the DCs whatever I like and that he will be ignoring my messages now until I calm down.

I replied telling him he needs to communicate with me like a grown up. Which he didn't reply to.

Today, I've been racking my brains, going over every detail of the last few weeks, trying to spot any sign that this was coming. But I just can't work it out, we've had no major arguments. We've been planning for the future he showed no sign that he was struggling with our lives. I just don't know how this happened. How did I miss that he was struggling so much and that he didn't feel like he could talk to me about any of this?

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Jonisaysitbest · 20/06/2024 18:27

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:23

"a man walked out on his children..."

No, walking out is not seeing them again. Totally different to spending a couple of days with the mother.

"without displaying any concern for their well-being before or since." He may be displaying lots of concern in front of his mother/father.

"He has ghosted his own children..."

You're being a drama queen.

No one has ghosted anyone. It's early days. Chill.

"... caused untold emotional upheaval."
You're causing untold emotional upheaval by turning a drama into a crisis.

"And that's before we even get into what he's done to his wife."
What's that then? Held her in a dungeon for the last 20 years?

Seriously, some of you people need to get a grip. Most of my exes have just wanted to live drama-free lives. No wonder some need headspace when there's so much needless drama going around.

How would you describe the situation then?

"Great bloke just needs a well-earned rest so has popped round his mum's for a couple of days"
🙄

Roseyjane · 20/06/2024 18:28

Jonisaysitbest · 20/06/2024 18:05

@Roseyjane So who do you think is feeding his kids tonight, putting them to bed, making sure they go to school tomorrow?

This man has delivered an incredibly hurtful bombshell to his unsuspecting wife and then walked away and let her not only deal with that devastating upset and hurt, but also deal with her children's needs AND field their questions about where their dad is.

People need to stop defending this man who is now living at his parent's house and presumably being looked after there while his wife struggles with her feelings and cares for their unsettled children.

Saying he will still take them on a holiday and have them when she wants him to does not make him father of the year. It makes him a coward who is shirking his responsibilities to the children he had a 50% hand in creating.

You will get no disagreement from me. I already said he did a cunty thing. I was simply saying there was no indication he was planning to never see his kids again and that it would be hard for the op to see so many people saying that, on top of the pain she’s already enduring.

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:30

Jonisaysitbest · 20/06/2024 18:19

But that doesn't excuse him leaving a note rather than having a conversation with his wife, getting cross with her for speaking to his parents, telling her to "calm down", refusing to explain his actions to his children, saying he wants his "freedom" - the list goes on.
These are NOT the actions of someone who is ill or depressed.

Maybe he does want out of the marriage, obviously that happens and no one is saying people have to stay married forever, but he needs to show OP the respect of meeting with her and having an honest conversation about it.

I agree with you that he MUST speak with her like an adult. There's a marriage, kids, a home, and everyone's future at stake. DW is entitled to answers. And lots of them. Again, and again. Until it's clear what is going on.

It's also worth remembering that his head, nerves and heart might also be imploding right now. It might be a hellish time for both.

So rather than sticking knives in each other, it's probably best they try to have a series of discussions.

twodowntwotogo · 20/06/2024 18:31

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:23

"a man walked out on his children..."

No, walking out is not seeing them again. Totally different to spending a couple of days with the mother.

"without displaying any concern for their well-being before or since." He may be displaying lots of concern in front of his mother/father.

"He has ghosted his own children..."

You're being a drama queen.

No one has ghosted anyone. It's early days. Chill.

"... caused untold emotional upheaval."
You're causing untold emotional upheaval by turning a drama into a crisis.

"And that's before we even get into what he's done to his wife."
What's that then? Held her in a dungeon for the last 20 years?

Seriously, some of you people need to get a grip. Most of my exes have just wanted to live drama-free lives. No wonder some need headspace when there's so much needless drama going around.

You're wrong on all counts

No, walking out is not seeing them again
Says who??? He literally walked out the door without dealing with them whatsoever

spending a couple of days with the mother
That's not what he said his intentions were

He may be displaying lots of concern in front of his mother/father.
He hasn't directed that concern to his children, he hasn't checked how they are with the person who has actually been with them since he left

You're being a drama queen
The only drama queen is the gobshite who felt it within his rights to abandon his kids with just a note directed to his wife about wanting his 'freedom'

You're causing untold emotional upheaval by turning a drama into a crisis
Oh am I? The OP has said it's a crisis and that's her prerogative as she's the one actually experiencing it

What's that then? Held her in a dungeon for the last 20 years?
How about announcing he's leaving (via a note, off all the cowardly things to do) and leaving her responsible for three children with no choice in the matter?

twodowntwotogo · 20/06/2024 18:33

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 17:42

" It's like a wanted criminal leaving the country ... absconding"

No. Because,

A) He's not a wanted criminal.
B) He's not leaving the country.
C) He's not absconding.

A marriage is on the rocks, and one of the two parties is spending some time with their mother. Get a grip. No need to spew hatred at men to satisfy misandrist cravings.

No, a man has decided he wants his 'freedom' and has taken the cowardly way out and not discussed it with the other party while also shirking his responsibility to the children he is 50% responsible for. Get a grip.

Respectisnotoptional · 20/06/2024 18:36

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:30

I agree with you that he MUST speak with her like an adult. There's a marriage, kids, a home, and everyone's future at stake. DW is entitled to answers. And lots of them. Again, and again. Until it's clear what is going on.

It's also worth remembering that his head, nerves and heart might also be imploding right now. It might be a hellish time for both.

So rather than sticking knives in each other, it's probably best they try to have a series of discussions.

Well said @Serendipityandmore a voice of reason.

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:45

twodowntwotogo · 20/06/2024 18:31

You're wrong on all counts

No, walking out is not seeing them again
Says who??? He literally walked out the door without dealing with them whatsoever

spending a couple of days with the mother
That's not what he said his intentions were

He may be displaying lots of concern in front of his mother/father.
He hasn't directed that concern to his children, he hasn't checked how they are with the person who has actually been with them since he left

You're being a drama queen
The only drama queen is the gobshite who felt it within his rights to abandon his kids with just a note directed to his wife about wanting his 'freedom'

You're causing untold emotional upheaval by turning a drama into a crisis
Oh am I? The OP has said it's a crisis and that's her prerogative as she's the one actually experiencing it

What's that then? Held her in a dungeon for the last 20 years?
How about announcing he's leaving (via a note, off all the cowardly things to do) and leaving her responsible for three children with no choice in the matter?

People "literally walk out the door" whenever they go to work, put the bins out or buy a pint of milk. That's not what 'walking out on your children means'. Says who? Common sense. If that fails you, try Google.

Regardless of what he said his intentions were, that may be all it amounts to. We don't know at this very early stage. You're speculating this time apart is permanent.

DH doesn't need to "direct concern at his children". He's been away with the mother for a couple of days. Most men are not drama queens who need to be "directing concern" 24/7. It's a couple of days, no biggie.

So how would you like him to announce his intention to get a divorce? With a back rub and some roses? If he doesn't offer the opportunity to have proper dialogue with DW for weeks, then yes, cowardly. But it's very early days. His head might be imploding.

On here, there's never a shortage of man-haters gunning for divorce to satisfy their frustrations with men.

TheShellBeach · 20/06/2024 18:48

The male affair apologists on this thread disgust me.

Lampzade · 20/06/2024 18:51

Switcher · 20/06/2024 16:45

Wow. That's quite terrifying really!

It really is
A man with a wife and three kids can just pick up his bags and leave because he doesn’t want to be ‘tied down’. WTF
You cannot make this shit up

Lampzade · 20/06/2024 18:52

TheShellBeach · 20/06/2024 18:48

The male affair apologists on this thread disgust me.

Me too

J0S · 20/06/2024 18:55

BreadInCaptivity · 19/06/2024 19:45

Absolutely he's met someone else and something has happened to make him leave.

She may be pregnant for example. So brace yourself for more revelations.

Your in laws are no longer your friends. He will defending his shit behaviour by telling them you drove him to it.

History will be rewritten. Your marriage was always shit. You were always a bad wife. He was an angel to put up with it as long as he did.

So take action.

  • gather as much information as you can. Payslips, bank accounts, pension information .
  • get an appointment with a solicitor and find out what you are entitled to. Start divorce proceedings asap (show him you mean business).
  • do not try and win him back. Blank him. He needs to grovel to you not the other way round hence the point above.
  • absolutely send the children to the in laws this weekend so he can spend quality time with his children and explain what's happening.
  • tell your friends what he's done. Don't let him give his version of events first.

In short take the wind from his sails and own what happens next.

Every single word of what @BreadInCaptivity said.

also take ALL the money out of the joint savings accounts and put it into an account in your own name in another bank.

yes you may have to account for it in the divorce , but if you don’t take it all then he can. Both of you can take all of it, not just half .

Remember you need money to support you and the kids, he is living free at his parents . He will almost certainly stop paying into the joint account for your household bills very soon.

apply online today for child maintenance .

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 20/06/2024 18:58

Blueblell · 20/06/2024 16:42

I think it sounds like he just wants have a single life with no responsibilities! Tell him it is 50/50.

He may not be having an affair at all, some me just decide they don’t want the responsibilities of a family which leaves you in a difficult position and is very very unfair!

I agree, I think this is the case. He's just got fed up with the humdrum of daily family life and doesn't want the responsibility any more. I think he should be told the children are his responsiblity on a 50/50 basis. I doubt he'll step up to it, though.
The only other thing which occurs to me is that perhaps he's lost his job and has been pretending to go to work every day and has now come to the conclusion that he wants to start a new life and a new job elsewhere?

CandyLeBonBon · 20/06/2024 18:59

Have you got kids @Serendipityandmore ?

Lampzade · 20/06/2024 18:59

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 17:42

" It's like a wanted criminal leaving the country ... absconding"

No. Because,

A) He's not a wanted criminal.
B) He's not leaving the country.
C) He's not absconding.

A marriage is on the rocks, and one of the two parties is spending some time with their mother. Get a grip. No need to spew hatred at men to satisfy misandrist cravings.

So if the Op decides that she wants to spend time with her mother ( sans kids) . Who the fuck is going to look after the kids ?
If he was really concerned about the welfare of his kids he wouldn’t have effectively blindsided their mother with the leaving note.

betterangels · 20/06/2024 18:59

Men who walk out on their families declaring they "don't want to be tied down" leaving notes for their unsuspecting wives and who don't have the guts to speak to their own kids ARE spineless cowards. Don't want to be called spineless, don't do cowardly things. It isn't difficult.

Nailed it. Some of the posts on this thread are unreal. The man doesn't even have the decency to speak to his upset child.

'You made it look easy ... wah, wah' - utterly unattractive. Life isn't fucking easy. Men like this husband need to catch a massive grip. It's so pathetic.

I'm sorry, OP. Hope your meeting with the solicitor is informative and helps you gain clarity. You deserve more than this.

twodowntwotogo · 20/06/2024 19:00

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:45

People "literally walk out the door" whenever they go to work, put the bins out or buy a pint of milk. That's not what 'walking out on your children means'. Says who? Common sense. If that fails you, try Google.

Regardless of what he said his intentions were, that may be all it amounts to. We don't know at this very early stage. You're speculating this time apart is permanent.

DH doesn't need to "direct concern at his children". He's been away with the mother for a couple of days. Most men are not drama queens who need to be "directing concern" 24/7. It's a couple of days, no biggie.

So how would you like him to announce his intention to get a divorce? With a back rub and some roses? If he doesn't offer the opportunity to have proper dialogue with DW for weeks, then yes, cowardly. But it's very early days. His head might be imploding.

On here, there's never a shortage of man-haters gunning for divorce to satisfy their frustrations with men.

Edited

I'm not a 'man-hater' and have no frustrations with 'men' and don't generalise about 50% of the human race.

He didn't come home from work or to do bedtime with his children as he usually does, he has said he wants his freedom and offered to take the kids on holiday - that means he has walked out. He hasn't popped to the shop.

He certainly does need to be concerned for his children - at all times, and particularly when he just fucks off without talking to them. It's called being a responsible parent. Google it if common sense fails you.

You don't get to have 'freedom' if you have children.

It's no biggie and yet you say he's announcing his intention to get a divorce - is that no biggie? Will that have no impact on his children?

Grow up and give over on your 'man hater' bullshit. If you're a parent, you take responsibility for your children's well-being first and foremost. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman.

Wanting a divorce isn't in itself wrong, but the way you go about it should be mature and responsible when there are children involved, and if you don't consider your children's well-being as a priority in this - as in everything else - then you're a despicable loser, no matter whether you're the mother or father. End of story.

Easipeelerie · 20/06/2024 19:00

I really don’t agree with all those telling OP she must demand 50/50 or take the children to the in laws and leave them with him.

These are vulnerable children experiencing upheaval and probable trauma. Why would you therefore put them in the miserable position of having to be ‘cared for’ by someone who has explicitly stated that he wants to check out of family life?

Of course it’s not fair that she won’t end up co-parenting fairly and equally but in this case, loner term, minimum contact with dad will probably be for the best, especially if they get all the love and reassurance they need from their mum.

twodowntwotogo · 20/06/2024 19:02

betterangels · 20/06/2024 18:59

Men who walk out on their families declaring they "don't want to be tied down" leaving notes for their unsuspecting wives and who don't have the guts to speak to their own kids ARE spineless cowards. Don't want to be called spineless, don't do cowardly things. It isn't difficult.

Nailed it. Some of the posts on this thread are unreal. The man doesn't even have the decency to speak to his upset child.

'You made it look easy ... wah, wah' - utterly unattractive. Life isn't fucking easy. Men like this husband need to catch a massive grip. It's so pathetic.

I'm sorry, OP. Hope your meeting with the solicitor is informative and helps you gain clarity. You deserve more than this.

This. Running home to mummy and daddy is so pathetic - spineless and cowardly. And almost blaming them for making it look easy. They must be appalled at his immature and cowardly behaviour. I'd be so ashamed of him if he was my child.

Azandme · 20/06/2024 19:04

Cowardice is repulsive.

MrRydersParlourGame · 20/06/2024 19:05

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:45

People "literally walk out the door" whenever they go to work, put the bins out or buy a pint of milk. That's not what 'walking out on your children means'. Says who? Common sense. If that fails you, try Google.

Regardless of what he said his intentions were, that may be all it amounts to. We don't know at this very early stage. You're speculating this time apart is permanent.

DH doesn't need to "direct concern at his children". He's been away with the mother for a couple of days. Most men are not drama queens who need to be "directing concern" 24/7. It's a couple of days, no biggie.

So how would you like him to announce his intention to get a divorce? With a back rub and some roses? If he doesn't offer the opportunity to have proper dialogue with DW for weeks, then yes, cowardly. But it's very early days. His head might be imploding.

On here, there's never a shortage of man-haters gunning for divorce to satisfy their frustrations with men.

Edited

ODFOD.

DreamyCyanFinch · 20/06/2024 19:06

Always the men haters gunning for a divirce.How about quite a few women on here who have been through the same thing.
Seeing lots of similarities, and trying to prepare tge OP for what might happen.

I don't wish a divorce on anyone, very stressful.

twodowntwotogo · 20/06/2024 19:07

Easipeelerie · 20/06/2024 19:00

I really don’t agree with all those telling OP she must demand 50/50 or take the children to the in laws and leave them with him.

These are vulnerable children experiencing upheaval and probable trauma. Why would you therefore put them in the miserable position of having to be ‘cared for’ by someone who has explicitly stated that he wants to check out of family life?

Of course it’s not fair that she won’t end up co-parenting fairly and equally but in this case, loner term, minimum contact with dad will probably be for the best, especially if they get all the love and reassurance they need from their mum.

But say if her 'head is imploding' as one of the apologists here said the absconders is? What then? Should the children be taken into care? Why should she have to deal with the consequences of his actions? Presumably her head is imploding worse than his but from the sounds of it she's actually taking her children's well-being seriously!

twodowntwotogo · 20/06/2024 19:10

DreamyCyanFinch · 20/06/2024 19:06

Always the men haters gunning for a divirce.How about quite a few women on here who have been through the same thing.
Seeing lots of similarities, and trying to prepare tge OP for what might happen.

I don't wish a divorce on anyone, very stressful.

Did you not notice he's the one who left and said he doesn't want to be married any more? So he's the one gunning for a 'divirce' as you put it, although 'gunning' is a little too potent a word for such a coward who has run home to his mum because he didn't realise having three young children involved responsibilities

HandsDown84 · 20/06/2024 19:13

Serendipityandmore · 20/06/2024 18:45

People "literally walk out the door" whenever they go to work, put the bins out or buy a pint of milk. That's not what 'walking out on your children means'. Says who? Common sense. If that fails you, try Google.

Regardless of what he said his intentions were, that may be all it amounts to. We don't know at this very early stage. You're speculating this time apart is permanent.

DH doesn't need to "direct concern at his children". He's been away with the mother for a couple of days. Most men are not drama queens who need to be "directing concern" 24/7. It's a couple of days, no biggie.

So how would you like him to announce his intention to get a divorce? With a back rub and some roses? If he doesn't offer the opportunity to have proper dialogue with DW for weeks, then yes, cowardly. But it's very early days. His head might be imploding.

On here, there's never a shortage of man-haters gunning for divorce to satisfy their frustrations with men.

Edited

Hahahahaha.

StopInhalingRevels · 20/06/2024 19:16

I'm not frustrated with men.

I'm married to a lovely one. My father is a lovely one. My two closest work colleagues are lovely men.

OP's husband is a fucking disgrace.

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