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Men of today.

271 replies

Lustnotlove · 14/06/2024 08:11

What's happened too men these days? They are not the same as they was 15-20 years ago, no commitment, no loyalty, no respect, no ambition, no teamwork? I think I've given up with the L word 🤣🤷🏼‍♀️ maybe it's me but I feel there's no decent guys out there anymore 🤷🏼‍♀️ it's actually sad as when your young you have all these dreams don't you?

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GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 14:18

@Mayorq the biggest pervs and the most hardcore porn addicts who also pay prostitutes or spend loads of money on Onlyfans girls are usually those men you see showing up at feminist marches lol.

If these male feminists actually cared about women then they wouldnt be supporting porn or or prostitution , they would want stricter immigration policies because most of the immigrants coming into the west are military aged men who come from backwards cultures that treat women like shit.

Mayorq · 15/06/2024 14:34

"Although go ask most men and they will say that they are turned off by women who have slept around, I see thousands of comments and videos from men on the internet saying that they are turned off by women with high body counts. Even all my male friends in real life they say the same thing."

It's absolutely amazing that a thick misogynist keeps encountering thick misogynistic content on the internet and is friend exclusively with thick misogynistic, what are the odds 😂😂

You're a top G buddy

GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 14:41

@Mayorq its not "misogynistic" to have preferences and to want a girl who has not slept around. Women are free to choose who they want to sleep with and if they want to engage in casual sex although they also need to understand that men are also free to choose who we want to date,marry and have kids with.

Women need to stop telling men what we should be attracted to and who we should date. Your not entitled to love or marriage or relationships just like you tell incels "your not entitled to sex" which is right as well

Mayorq · 15/06/2024 14:45

"I suppose someone has to date the slags who may have kids from a previous relationship"

Don't worry, you and the lads can discuss it while you protest some direct provision centre tonight

GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 14:50

@Mayorq but my standards and preferences worked for me because I managed to find myself a lovely girl who is slim/petite, natural looking, wants kids, very kind, feminine and also didnt have a history of sleeping around (we were both our firsts). I dont need to sleep with loads of woman and I dont think im missing out at all especially with the amount of shit women on the dating market. The way many women act and carry on it makes me want to love my GF even more and become a better man for her.

Mayorq · 15/06/2024 14:58

Nobody is trying to make you out your gf sleep with anyone, you can sleep tight pupper.

Fuck at many or as few people as you like, same with your gf.

If you want to be a better person then lay off the Andrew tate, Alex jones and Joe rogan manosphere content parroting things about body count and calling people slags because they don't share your preferences, that's the misogynistic part.

It's very simple, they're not simply preferences if you look to socially shame and belittle people who don't share them.

Mayorq · 15/06/2024 15:00

Also when trolling subtlety is key.

This was poor work on your part. Funny but not bragging

"Usually the men who dont care about body count are far left wing, have porn addictions and would force thier women to do stuff like threesomes or to suck some man off while they watch, support prostitution, pretend to be feminists just so that they can get into thier knickers ect. These men want women to be "easy" and to be "sexually liberated" so that they can get them to take part in thier weird kinks."

GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 15:04

@Mayorq "If you want to be a better person then lay off the Andrew tate, Alex jones and Joe rogan manosphere content parroting things about body count and calling people slags because they don't share your preferences, that's the misogynistic part"

Lol I dont even agree with andrew tate on most things and I think he is a hypocrite because he thinks its ok for a man to sleep around but not a woman. Ok so who should I watch in order to become a better person? Any suggestions?

Mayorq · 15/06/2024 15:07

Parks n rec
Bluey
Broad City
The rte montage for the end of the 2002 world cup

Lustnotlove · 15/06/2024 17:28

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Just saying the women who do have kids from previous relationships aren't slags and sluts some 'may be' but a lot of women who are left to be single mums have had previous shitty relationships with blokes who cheat, aren't loyal, controlling, abusive and just complete narcissists! Women don't have kids to end up having to bring them up alone and I can say that from experience I have 4 children and I was married but he ended up cheating on me 6 months after our wedding we was together for over 8 years!!!

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GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 19:12

@Lustnotlove your 100 percent right! Obviously not every single mother is a slag and its not always thier fault that they are single mothers, maybe I shouldnt of put "slags" and "single mothers" in the same bracket (sorry).

And there are plenty of women who are single mothers even tho they are in relationships because the man does nothing and leaves her to do all the work.

But as a man who doesnt sleep around I find women who have a history of sleeping around a turn off, in my opinion I think you should only have sex with those who you care about and my GF has the same mindset (although we both aint asexual or anything in fact the opposite 😂)

If your a woman who sleeps around then I dont care, thats her decision and hopefully she does it in an enviorment where she is safe BUT at the same time men are allowed to have preferences (just like women)

Men are not owed sex just like women are not owed relationships, plenty of women seem to get triggered when lots of men on the internet say that they dont want a woman with a high body count but yet I bet these same women still want a man who is tall, athletic, makes more money than them, hasnt paid for sex in the past, doesnt watch porn etc

TheCadoganArms · 15/06/2024 20:20

GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 13:40

@TheCadoganArms its just where Im from (a small town in the back ass of ireland) sometimes people would say "my woman/man" or "the woman/man" instead of "my boyfriend/girlfriend". Even my GF says "my man" when she's talking about me to others.

I'm from the west of Ireland in a small ass town and I don't recall 'my woman' being a common turn of phrase.

Runsyd · 16/06/2024 08:21

GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 12:50

Well as a 25 year old man who has his life together, been saving up since he was 16 for a house, never did any drugs, tall, athletic, looks after my appearance and very hygenic and never slept around Im lucky to have found myself a great girl (we were both virgins when we met).

Although whats wrong with most women these days especually my age? Because many of them sleep around, always stuck on thier phones, are bisexual (or some label except straight), dont want kids as they want to chase a career (which is fine I guess).

I hear my friends talking about sleeping around with a new woman each week and even they tell me that loads of women are sluts. One of my work friends (who is 5ft 6, chubby, bad teeth etc) even managed to pull off a threesome with two girls and apparenty one of these girls were already in a year long relationship.

My woman is excellent honestly and it just makes me want to treat my woman even more when I hear of all these trashy women cheating and sleeping around. My woman is more "traditional" in a sense that she has told me she has always wanted kids and she even said that she cant understand how girls can sleep around, she isnt career driven as in didnt go to uni for a degree although she still works as a chef and shes a qualified chef, to me thats way more attractive than having a degree imo.

But if we were to go our seperate ways then I dont think im going to date ever again because have you seen what most women are like? Fuck that lol

You'd find that men who have thier shit together dont date women who sleep around, I also have a friend who owns a buisness and is very hard working but his woman is similar to mine.

Me and my GF are planning on moving into a four bedroom house soon in which im paying the 15 grand deposite (although the house is going to be in both of our names).

But seriously how is a 5ft 6 man who is chubby, bad teeth, acne etc managing to have a threesome with two women? It just shows you how desperate and easy most women are these days lol

Your comments got deleted from another thread for calling women sluts and easy. Frankly if you really are a 25-year-old man, your mentality is fucking prehistoric. Can you explain why it's bad for women to sleep around, but somehow okay for men, because your double standards are completely obnoxious.

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 08:34

Your not entitled to love or marriage or relationships just like you tell incels "your not entitled to sex" which is right as well

It's "you're" - short for "you are".

Your is used to denote ownership etc .... Your car, your hair.

I find it surprising that people who can't even write their own language, expect others to take anything they say seriously.

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 08:37

dont want kids as they want to chase a career

The vast vast majority of women who "chase" a career, also have kids at some point. The IT professionals, lawyers, pharmacists, doctors, construction professionals etc etc I know ...have kids.

The two are not mutually exclusive..... Is that too complicated for you?

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 08:38

You sound like a red piller, mgtow, incel ...... You're on the wrong site.

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 08:40

Well as a 25 year old man

I'd never have guessed you're only 25.

🙄

DullFanFiction · 16/06/2024 08:41

@GingerDude98 i hope you are spending as much energy defending women who are out all in a same bag than you are at defending men.

Because the whole ‘I’m so triggered by those comments’ from a young man apparently happy in his relationship but finding himself on MN is a bit weird tbh.

Btw dint worry about the fact you wouldn’t want a relationship with a woman if you were finding yourself single again.
Many women don’t either. That’s why nativity rates are so low, why so many women are deciding to be single etc…. They’ll avoid you too.

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 08:44

Just lol at the 25 yr old on a site lecturing women who have a million years more life experience than him, in every way, about relationshipss.

There are virtually no other young men your age on this forum, they are on other forums ....what is it about you that you think has motivated you to join here and post here?

You must have the most incredible level of arrogance and self delusion to think your simplistic, immature, red pill brain-washed opinions are worthy of airing to thousands of women .. many of whom are old enough to be your Mum ..many of whom are professional working women with kids (kids your age).

You haven't got a tap of sense or appropriate-ness.

Confusionn · 16/06/2024 08:45

GingerDude98 · 15/06/2024 19:12

@Lustnotlove your 100 percent right! Obviously not every single mother is a slag and its not always thier fault that they are single mothers, maybe I shouldnt of put "slags" and "single mothers" in the same bracket (sorry).

And there are plenty of women who are single mothers even tho they are in relationships because the man does nothing and leaves her to do all the work.

But as a man who doesnt sleep around I find women who have a history of sleeping around a turn off, in my opinion I think you should only have sex with those who you care about and my GF has the same mindset (although we both aint asexual or anything in fact the opposite 😂)

If your a woman who sleeps around then I dont care, thats her decision and hopefully she does it in an enviorment where she is safe BUT at the same time men are allowed to have preferences (just like women)

Men are not owed sex just like women are not owed relationships, plenty of women seem to get triggered when lots of men on the internet say that they dont want a woman with a high body count but yet I bet these same women still want a man who is tall, athletic, makes more money than them, hasnt paid for sex in the past, doesnt watch porn etc

I am going to shock you by saying you are right to a certain extent.
What makes single mothers "slags" as you put it, is not the fact that they are single with children. That can happen to anyone. But it is the fact that they actively seek out relationships often when they have very young children, and they frequently put a new man ahead of the well being of their kids, because they need sex. That is the definition of a slag single mum, not the fact that they are just single!

PinkLemonade555 · 16/06/2024 08:48

Confusionn · 16/06/2024 08:45

I am going to shock you by saying you are right to a certain extent.
What makes single mothers "slags" as you put it, is not the fact that they are single with children. That can happen to anyone. But it is the fact that they actively seek out relationships often when they have very young children, and they frequently put a new man ahead of the well being of their kids, because they need sex. That is the definition of a slag single mum, not the fact that they are just single!

I doubt it’s because they “need sex”.

they’re probably craving connection. Want to feel ‘cared for’. Again, it’s a self-esteem thing. There are plenty of better and more reliable ways to have an orgasm, to be honest.

Mayorq · 16/06/2024 08:49

@GingerDude98 where are you getting a 4 bed house for e150k?

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 08:51

But it is the fact that they actively seek out relationships often when they have very young children, and they frequently put a new man ahead of the well being of their kids, because they need sex.

I doubt any of them seem out relationships because they "need sex". Are you a bloke?

And why exactly should single mothers not seek out relationships when the father if their child, who often cheated and dumped her, is free to get into relationships (and always do, the can't be single for 5 mins). Why exactly would the mother have to be alone, have no partner etc while the father does whatever the fuck he likes?? She's usually only a single mother because he's a deadbeat Dad and shit, immoral person. Why does she have to be a martyr, on her own perpetually.

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 08:55

they frequently put a new man ahead of the well being of their kids

There are plenty of single mothers who date and get into relationships without doing that ...but of course they don't exist in your world.

Also, interesting hiw the behaviour you cite above is what the fathers of those kids do ...... Usually to a much greater extent.

How come you don't mention all the fathers who put new relationships (and everything else) ahead of their kids .. ..you only mention the women who've been dumped with everything by a dead beat, selfish man - a man who was 50% responsibile for bringing that child into the world??

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 09:14

Any DECENT father would have his child or children 50% of the time.

Should they also not get into relationships while their children are young??

That would be a tad tricky, given they've usually left the mother of their kids for another woman. Men never leave for an empty bed.

Why don't you go on men's forums and try to lecture them about having their kids 50% of the time, and about staying single until they're a certain age, and about putting their kids first. (Because I see a fuck-tonne more fathers not putting their kids first, than mothers).

I'm reminded of a scenario an older man I dated told me about his single Mum neighbour; the Dad barely took his son, he was unreliable, nonetheless she tried to facilitate the relationships, he arranged to take the boy on a football trip, on a coach with other families to see a match, the boy was excited about it for ages, he was all ready, dressed in his kit etc on the morning they were due to go, *his father never turned up and didn't respond to any attempts at contact by the Mum, the coach left (she couldn't go instead because had another child to look after), she was left with a hysterical, crying boy, kicking & knocking his head off his bunk bed.

Another single Mum I know's ex sees his son steadily oy when he's Dingle, he disappears every time he gets a new gf, at one point he moved a long, awkward journey away from his son to move in with his latest gf.

Thid is not rare behaviour . .this is common behaviour by fathers towards their kids. This forum is chick full of examples.

So don't you worry about single Mums, turn your focus on the real villains of the story.