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Men of today.

271 replies

Lustnotlove · 14/06/2024 08:11

What's happened too men these days? They are not the same as they was 15-20 years ago, no commitment, no loyalty, no respect, no ambition, no teamwork? I think I've given up with the L word 🤣🤷🏼‍♀️ maybe it's me but I feel there's no decent guys out there anymore 🤷🏼‍♀️ it's actually sad as when your young you have all these dreams don't you?

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Chickenuggetsticks · 16/06/2024 22:05

I think most decent men who got married stayed married (not always the case but mostly I think it’s true). The pool is just smaller as you get older tbh. My DH is a lovely normal intelligent person, we are happy together.

GingerDude98 · 16/06/2024 22:20

@DotDashDot24 its funny because I hear women say that they would never date a man who had paid for sex in the past but yet at the same time women would say things like "a womans sexual past doesnt matter"

But at the end of the day men are allowed preferences and many men dont want a girl who has slept around. It doesnt mean a woman is a bad person if she has slept around but you need to understand that men dont have to date or marry you.

littleburn · 16/06/2024 22:27

Online dating is largely anonymous and fishing in a very big pool. You can behave poorly and its pretty much consequence free. When I was a late teen/early 20s (in the ‘90s) you’d typically meet boyfriends through a smaller social circle, friends of friends, down the pub, through work etc. You had those social connections in common, so if you cheated, messed someone around etc it would become common knowledge and made you look pretty shitty to other potential partners.

Also dating multiple people wasn’t really a thing then. It was pretty simple - you’d go on a few dates, you liked each other, you were in a relationship. None of this tension around having conversations about ‘being exclusive’ and having to be all cool girl about him dating other people. That was a very American thing back then, which we seem to have imported with online dating.

Comedycook · 16/06/2024 22:27

It doesnt mean a woman is a bad person if she has slept around but you need to understand that men dont have to date or marry you

Thanks for the advice. Devastated naturally but I know eventually I'll defiantly get over it.

GingerDude98 · 16/06/2024 22:37

@Comedycook I was a virgin up until 25 and my GF was also one up until 24, we both lost our virginities together but most men dont get the opportunity to sleep around (while women do). But then guess what? Before my GF I was talking to one woman on tinder who wanted something serious (so did I) but then I found out from a friend that she had a history of sleeping around, she was nice but straight away I blocked her and moved on. Then that worked out because I managed to find my lovely GF,

In fact I think many of you older women (who most likely have a history of sleeping around) should just date each other because many of you women seem to be bisexual these days anyway. Although even women cant put up with other women, thats why a lot of you bisexual women would have sex with a woman but you still want a man for a relationship. Then you get angry at older men wanting younger women with less baggage and lower body counts because you think that they should be dating you, also an 18 year old woman can be more mature than a 40 year old woman.

Anyway me and my GF have been going 10 months, have never once had an argument, we are both mature and after moving in together we are going to do a bit of travelling first before we then decide to start a family. You can call me a "sexist" or what ever just because I have preferences but I got what I want.

And she got herself a tall, athletic, hard working man who has money saved, doesnt watch porn, hasnt got a history of sleeping with prostitutes, doesnt sneak off to strip clubs. I'll do anything for my GF and we will work together as a team, I can also cook, clean, do the washing etc so I wont be one of these men who leaves it all for his woman to do

Comedycook · 16/06/2024 22:42

but most men dont get the opportunity to sleep around

Sorry to burst your bubble but honestly loads of men get the opportunity to sleep around.

GingerDude98 · 16/06/2024 22:44

@littleburn although you can still find out if a woman has cheated or has slept around, most men after sleeping with a woman usually show all thier mates pictures of her and brag about it.

Like the other day at work a man who is 5ft 6, chubby with bad teeth showing me the two girls that he had a threesome with (and one is in a year long relationship). Thats why its a bad idea for women to sleep around because most of the time these men dont respect you and will be bragging to thier mates. Now a Fwb who you see on a regular is a different story and that not too bad tbh, thats probaly the smarter way to go and at least you'll have some connection with the man

Comedycook · 16/06/2024 22:44

but then I found out from a friend that she had a history of sleeping around, she was nice but straight away I blocked her and moved on

She had a very lucky escape

myNewName21 · 16/06/2024 22:53

Lustnotlove · 14/06/2024 08:11

What's happened too men these days? They are not the same as they was 15-20 years ago, no commitment, no loyalty, no respect, no ambition, no teamwork? I think I've given up with the L word 🤣🤷🏼‍♀️ maybe it's me but I feel there's no decent guys out there anymore 🤷🏼‍♀️ it's actually sad as when your young you have all these dreams don't you?

20 years ago, you were probably being chased by men, you were in demand the number of available men was high

now it’s the other way around, the number of men in your pool is smaller than the number of women - the men can pick and choose whoever they want, if those men have come out of an expensive divorce, they will in no hurry to get into an serious relationship

GingerDude98 · 16/06/2024 22:54

@Comedycook haha no they dont! I know of plenty of male virgins and on the internet the vast majority of people saying that they are virgins are men.

I remember going onto reddit and seeing a post asking people how many people they have slept with. All the men in the comments were saying things like "im a virgin" or "I've only slept with 1-2 women" while all the women commenting were like "I've been with 20 men, 7 women, have had 5 threesomes and also slept with 3 non-binaries and two transgenders" .

On average women get around more than men in fact I dont even know how a woman in her late teens-20s can sleep/date so many people. Do they not have jobs, hobbies, interests, family members to spend time with etc?

Like how the fuck am I seeing 20 year old women who are students travelling to ayia napa, zante, magaluf, ibiza etc all the time? You always see them on instagram with thier drinks in thier hand and bikini's on, btw these are just normal girls who I know who come from working class families. Unless they all have sugar daddies or onlyfans (or are in shit loads of debt and are using student loans to pay for these holidays).

myNewName21 · 16/06/2024 23:00

GingerDude98 · 16/06/2024 22:54

@Comedycook haha no they dont! I know of plenty of male virgins and on the internet the vast majority of people saying that they are virgins are men.

I remember going onto reddit and seeing a post asking people how many people they have slept with. All the men in the comments were saying things like "im a virgin" or "I've only slept with 1-2 women" while all the women commenting were like "I've been with 20 men, 7 women, have had 5 threesomes and also slept with 3 non-binaries and two transgenders" .

On average women get around more than men in fact I dont even know how a woman in her late teens-20s can sleep/date so many people. Do they not have jobs, hobbies, interests, family members to spend time with etc?

Like how the fuck am I seeing 20 year old women who are students travelling to ayia napa, zante, magaluf, ibiza etc all the time? You always see them on instagram with thier drinks in thier hand and bikini's on, btw these are just normal girls who I know who come from working class families. Unless they all have sugar daddies or onlyfans (or are in shit loads of debt and are using student loans to pay for these holidays).

It’s always been much easier for women to get access to sex than men, of course this means that (some) men now have easier access to sex and don’t need to bother with difficult , expensive or complicated relationships with women any more 🤷🏻

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GingerDude98 · 16/06/2024 23:12

@myNewName21 like a man who is 5ft 6, chubby with bad teeth and acne Should not be allowed to pull off a threesome with two women who are slim and attractive lets be real 😂

It just shows you how slutty and easy a lot of girls are, thats why im so thankfull for my GF who was a virgin when we met (so was I)

DotDashDot24 · 16/06/2024 23:55

because many of you women seem to be bisexual these days anyway

And there it is - Incel bingo full house!!!!

His many pages has he filled without one original unhackneyed unclichéd BS statement now?

SeatedattheVirginals · 16/06/2024 23:55

GingerDude98 · 16/06/2024 23:12

@myNewName21 like a man who is 5ft 6, chubby with bad teeth and acne Should not be allowed to pull off a threesome with two women who are slim and attractive lets be real 😂

It just shows you how slutty and easy a lot of girls are, thats why im so thankfull for my GF who was a virgin when we met (so was I)

Maybe he’s intelligent, articulate and charming? And maybe doesn’t share your unattractively19thc opinions about women who enjoy sex?

DotDashDot24 · 17/06/2024 00:00

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Some crazy just past incel 25 yr old with terrible spelling and opinions on women that only an intellectually challenged misogynist could have.

And he's also told us if he breaks up with his gf, and can't get another near virgin woman; he'll pretend to love a "slutty" woman, impregnate her a couple of times and then tell her to "fuck off" and abandon her.

He hasn't mentioned what he's going to do about the kids after he's broken up their family and home.

As you can see; he has real traditional, family values & integrity.

DotDashDot24 · 17/06/2024 00:02

Funny how "traditional" men are only traditional when and where it suits them.

DotDashDot24 · 17/06/2024 00:04

thier daughters are defiantly those type who

Could you possibly write that sentence in English?

Do you mean definitely, like you did before when you wrote "defiantly"?

DotDashDot24 · 17/06/2024 00:08

We've learned so much from you (lol) that I feel like I should give something back;

Definitely.

That's the word you keep using "defiantly" instead of.

You're.... You are

Your - possessive article (my, our, his, her, your).

Successful - two c's, two s's, one l.

Your phone has spell checking.

ACynicalDad · 17/06/2024 00:11

Comedycook · 14/06/2024 08:54

DH and I have been together 13 years, he's a good guy who equally wanted commitment so we could have a family, works, parents properly and is a good partner. He's not available to date as he's a good, loving husband

What a smug comment.

It’s essentially the truth. Lucky lady.

DotDashDot24 · 17/06/2024 00:20

you need to understand that men dont have to date or marry you

Women don't have to date or marry men for any number of reasons either, it goes both ways. You "need to understand" that.

GingerDude98 · 17/06/2024 00:26

@SeatedattheVirginals yeah calling them sluts afterwards and if a woman sleeps with a man cause he is intelligant or smart then they have low standards. You should be sleeping with a man who you actually find physically attractive, not because he is nice or makes you feel sexy or gives you attention

DotDashDot24 · 17/06/2024 00:31

Then in thier 30s these same girls will be complaining to thier mothers "why cant I find a good man who will marry me and give me kids" lol because while u spent your 20s sleeping around the men who were serious and wanted a relationship got themselfs a good woman

This is incel, red pill and mra 101.

You all think you're going to get revenge on women who had sex (with men other than you) and they're going to be left single and sad and regretful.

You positively salivate over it.

Lemme clue you in ..... That doesn't happen. The women I know who were relatively promiscuous in their teens and twenties, settled down just like everyone else and found partners and had kids.

I know a woman who was a massive flirt and whose school peer told me she used to get it on with the PE teacher as a school girl; she married a guy not from our area, he knew nothing about her, he's rich, she's now a yummy mummy who has ski holidays, second home, holiday home and whose kids went to a strict religious school. She's Mrs Respectable.

One of the most promiscuous women I ever heard of in our area, married an 8 yrs younger, hot, fireman - whom we all fancied the ass off at school. They're still together with kids, years later.

The absolutely most promiscuous woman I know - triple figures , several men in one night ...is married with a kid.

I could go on.

You never get the revenge you want on women for having sex.
You never get your revenge on women for having sex with men other than you.

I know you desperately want to think you do, but you don't. So terribly sorry to break that to you.

Likewise, loads of women who slept with one partner, get dumped in their marriages or ltrs and end up single mothers.

They don't get the reward you claim they do for being "chaste".

You guys live in an echo chamber of fucking nonsense.

GingerDude98 · 17/06/2024 00:39

@DotDashDot24 "He hasn't mentioned what he's going to do about the kids after he's broken up their family and home"

Easy, I'll just focus on being a father although I wouldnt want anything to do with the woman anymore because I cant love a woman who has slept around.

Although lucky for me I've found myself a woman who I actually do love and can see myself marrying and having kids with.

"I hope you dont have a daughter" at the end of the day I cant stop my future daughter from sleeping around although I will tell her and give her advice on what I think is best for her. In my opinion sleeping around for a woman is a lot more dangerous and women have more to lose, I will also inform her that if you do sleep around then in the future you may find it harder to find a man to settle down with because men will be put off by it. However, I will still always love my daughter and if she does decide to sleep around then I hope she does it in an enviorment that she is safe in.