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He has just told me to F off

354 replies

Confusedandconfusedandconfused · 12/06/2024 19:44

Partner of 1.5 years, we are away together for a few days.

He gave me some feedback based on a job I am applying for and it bruised me. I asked if we could speak back in the room rather than in a public place and we haven’t been speaking for the last couple of hours. I’m feeling stressed as have an upcoming interview and the atmosphere is not good.

We had dinner plans and I just said I wasn’t feeling up to it. I have also had another rejection for a different job I was applying to and feeling quite low.

He has stormed off out of our hotel and shouted at me to “fuck off”. I fully intend to.

What do I do now? We are in a tiny village.

He is otherwise supportive kind and patient but swearing at me is a red flag and I don’t want to continue the relationship.

OP posts:
wrped · 13/06/2024 10:06

Growlybear83 · 12/06/2024 20:31

This is as daft as the other thread by someone whose husband called her a cunt. Have you honestly never had someone tell you to fuck off in the heat of an argument before? And would you seriously end a relationship on the basis of one comment?

agreed

both parties in wrong for different reasons

its an argument for gods sake, thats it

BluebirdBoogie · 13/06/2024 10:09

You need to cool down, then go and speak to him. Apologise for your behaviour and explain that you really don't like being sworn at, even if he's really angry. Dealing with these sorts of issues in a calm way will help your relationship in the long run. You both need to learn what mistakes you've made and try not to repeat them.

Then start afresh and enjoy the rest of your trip.

Good luck with the interview, hope you get the job.

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 10:09

spirallingdownwards Her whole issue was the swearing.

It would seem that way at first, but there's stuff in later posts that indicates that the issues go deeper. The swearing might be a "litmus test" behaviour for OP but I'm seeing bigger problems.

SilverSimca · 13/06/2024 10:11

Growlybear83 · 12/06/2024 20:31

This is as daft as the other thread by someone whose husband called her a cunt. Have you honestly never had someone tell you to fuck off in the heat of an argument before? And would you seriously end a relationship on the basis of one comment?

I have never had anyone tell me to fuck off, no, in the heat of an argument or otherwise. If they did I would find it very hurtful and hard to come back from, whether it was friend, relative or partner. And if anyone called me a cunt that would absolutely be it.

Contemplation2024 · 13/06/2024 10:13

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 09:59

Just being quiet is being herself. I don't know anyone who talks all the time.

Nothing more frustrating than someone saying there isn't anything wrong when there clearly is

I disagree: having someone poke and needle me into talking about something that I don't want to talk about, at least not yet, or can't talk about yet because my feelings are too raw or I'm still processing what's happened, is far worse than frustrating. It's invasive, it's threatening, it makes me react with the same defensive fear response as if you raised your fist to punch me. If you want me to react just like OP, needle me about something I'm not ready to talk about yet.

Why would you not just say 'I'm not ready to talk about it yet' instead of pretending there isn't anything wrong? Making the other person think they're going mad because they KNOW there is something wrong but you're lying about it so they start to doubt their own perception.

'I have some things on my mind, not anything you've done, I'm just not ready to speak about it yet'. That's how easy it is to both reassure your partner whilst also giving yourself the time you need to reflect/process.

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 10:22

Contemplation2024 · 13/06/2024 10:13

Why would you not just say 'I'm not ready to talk about it yet' instead of pretending there isn't anything wrong? Making the other person think they're going mad because they KNOW there is something wrong but you're lying about it so they start to doubt their own perception.

'I have some things on my mind, not anything you've done, I'm just not ready to speak about it yet'. That's how easy it is to both reassure your partner whilst also giving yourself the time you need to reflect/process.

Sometimes, it can take me days or weeks to even figure out that something is wrong. Also, "I'm fine" can be shorthand for "this isn't something you can help with so stop asking".

jannier · 13/06/2024 10:48

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 09:50

I would argue that denying someone a right to set boundaries about whether they talk or not is abusive. If a man won't respect my right to say no to a conversation, what else won't he respect my right to say no to?

And there have been threads on here where a man doing had had been called coercive controlling abuse. Shutting down and withdrawing is childish....she's off in a strop and he's supposed to sit silently awaiting her needs whilst they are on holiday it's nasty.

MasterOfCake · 13/06/2024 10:50

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 09:50

I would argue that denying someone a right to set boundaries about whether they talk or not is abusive. If a man won't respect my right to say no to a conversation, what else won't he respect my right to say no to?

It’s not some strange man from the street. It’s your partner who you’re supposed to be in a relationship with!

Isitovernow123 · 13/06/2024 10:55

wrped · 13/06/2024 10:06

agreed

both parties in wrong for different reasons

its an argument for gods sake, thats it

Absolutely agree - you’ve asked for feedback and he’s given it. You’ve not taken it constructively, instead you’ve taken it personally.

You're on holiday and instead of relaxing, he’s having to put up with you being stressed about a job interview.

user1499128287 · 13/06/2024 11:00

I'm failing to understand why you're reading so much into this tiff. You've been together 18 months, live together and you've come away on holiday together. You're stressed about the job situation, which is understandable, but you said yourself that you've let it affect your holiday and not been fun to be around. You say he's normally kind and supportive but he's clearly wanting to enjoy his holiday, which I imagine, he's probably worked hard for and looked forward to too.
Please get this in perspective. Give each other some space and have a chat when you've both calmed down. It's madness to flounce off and make this a huge deal. If you don't like him telling you to f off, then during your talk, just explain that it's a real no no for you.
Honestly though, reading this, it's all a bit melodramatic over nothing.

GingerPirate · 13/06/2024 11:12

Treestumpp · 12/06/2024 20:05

Interesting comments. I'm a male and I remember swearing at an ex gf of mine after say 6 months together. When we split up several years later, she said to me something like I knew you were no good when you swore at me after 6 months! She'd never forgotten and she said she'd wished she'd walked away at that point.

Well, it never happened to me and (especially now) it won't ever, me thinks.
Been married for 20 years, no kids.
Also, it must be said, very independent as far as
actually wanting to be someone's partner.
😁

EricHebbornInItaly · 13/06/2024 11:12

You sound a total high maintenance, manipulative anxious nightmare. He’s worked hard and wants to relax on holiday, you have booked interviews because you have no work/life boundaries, and he’s given you feedback and you’ve stropped because you don’t like it.

I hope he ends it even if you decide you want to continue the relationship because you need therapy rather you inflict your poor relationship skills on normal, emotionally mature men.

I’ve dated people like you that ‘go quiet’ when they aren’t happy about something and don’t want the other person to discuss it. It’s shit because the other person has to live with someone in a mood that infects the atmosphere for everyone else, and aren’t allowed to address it healthily. It’s a very obvious sign of someone who is emotionally immature. You sound awful op, also not surprised you aren’t interviewing well as your relationship skills clearly need work.

Respectisnotoptional · 13/06/2024 11:15

SilverSimca · 13/06/2024 10:11

I have never had anyone tell me to fuck off, no, in the heat of an argument or otherwise. If they did I would find it very hurtful and hard to come back from, whether it was friend, relative or partner. And if anyone called me a cunt that would absolutely be it.

Totally agree, you only have to read the posts on here to see how normalised swearing is, it’s disgusting. Its all about respect and boundaries, I think all swearing is offensive. However, I can understand with the OP that she really pushed her partner to the limits and could see why he said it. But if anyone used the C word in a conversation with me it would be the end of a friendship/relationship.

GabriellaMontez · 13/06/2024 11:21

Is this seriously a one off? Or were you re-evaluating your relationship already?

Constant interview talk and an interview on holiday. Hell.

sooverthisnow76 · 13/06/2024 11:47

My ex would take offence, sulk, go quiet on me frequently. It's soul-destroying when you've done nothing wrong! I got to the point where I would blow up at him for having another sulk. Sounds like your OH got to that point. Now you've escalated by going to stay somewhere else.

Hadjab · 13/06/2024 11:49

kayla22 · 13/06/2024 08:30

@Hadjab are you ok hahahahaha wtf. You need to calm yourself down, what a drama honestly

Umm, what now?

It's always helpful to quote the post you're referring too, so that I can see where the "drama" is...

verdibird · 13/06/2024 11:56

Sometimes people don’t have control when they are interviewed for a job.

FreeRider · 13/06/2024 12:11

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:32

He "tries to interpret her moods". He tells her that she is feeling whatever he thinks she feels, not what she actually feels. He is trying to impose his opinion over her actual feelings. He is trying to override her perception of events, which is gaslighting.

He is enacting the ninth rule of misogyny.

That was also my main take from the OP's post. He thinks he knows better than her how she's feeling. I've had that in my relationships and it's really fucking annoying.

Regarding having an interview while on holiday, I feel that many posters are being a bit unrealistic with the whole 'rearrange it' stuff - not all potential employers are going to be flexible, it may be for this job it's 'interview now or miss out'.

It's only been 18 months, I'd let this one go and concentrate on getting a job.

WhisperGold · 13/06/2024 12:37

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:45

You're claiming that she's unreasonable and that's still enacting the second rule.

Her removing herself will improve her interview chances, whether that's her intent or not.

You sure you've got the right rule?

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 13:12

WhisperGold · 13/06/2024 12:37

You sure you've got the right rule?

Yeah, deffo second rule: she's saying no to being around him and according to some posters that makes her abusive.

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 13:18

MasterOfCake · 13/06/2024 10:50

It’s not some strange man from the street. It’s your partner who you’re supposed to be in a relationship with!

There's a word for men who believe that being in a relationship with them means that you don't get to have boundaries any more: abuser.

Treestumpp · 13/06/2024 13:23

Well stone me, I thought these responses would be in support of the lass, given she said she wasn't taking it and it was a red flag. Instead the majority are answering it like she asked a AIBU, which she didn't, and basically character assassinating her for being too soft. Am I living in the 70's? I thought women now stuck by each other and each one determines what is and isn't tolerable to them in a relationship!

It's no wonder she hasn't posted back for any updates.

Thudercatsrule · 13/06/2024 13:30

Confusedandconfusedandconfused · 12/06/2024 19:55

I think you are getting the full story, yes.

He said something like “you’ve ruined it, just fuck off”. I can’t really see a way forward.

im trying to book somewhere else to stay.

Wow - its best you do leave and dont come back, he's better off without you.

You take work on holiday, ask for feedback and when you dont like it, you sulk and cancel dinner.

Ending a relationship over a swear word - wasnt much of a relationship to start with was it.

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 13:33

Thudercatsrule · 13/06/2024 13:30

Wow - its best you do leave and dont come back, he's better off without you.

You take work on holiday, ask for feedback and when you dont like it, you sulk and cancel dinner.

Ending a relationship over a swear word - wasnt much of a relationship to start with was it.

She didn't take work on holiday, she took a job application on holiday. Job applications don't respect when your holidays are.

NotSoHotMess24 · 13/06/2024 13:41

Of course everyone has their own deal breakers, and you can choose to break up with anyone, for any reason. I will say though, personally I wouldn't find being told to fuck off, in the context you've described, to be that big of a deal. Certainly not something to break up over. But again, that's just me.

Is it possible you're a bit more sensitive than usual, due to interview stresses?