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He has just told me to F off

354 replies

Confusedandconfusedandconfused · 12/06/2024 19:44

Partner of 1.5 years, we are away together for a few days.

He gave me some feedback based on a job I am applying for and it bruised me. I asked if we could speak back in the room rather than in a public place and we haven’t been speaking for the last couple of hours. I’m feeling stressed as have an upcoming interview and the atmosphere is not good.

We had dinner plans and I just said I wasn’t feeling up to it. I have also had another rejection for a different job I was applying to and feeling quite low.

He has stormed off out of our hotel and shouted at me to “fuck off”. I fully intend to.

What do I do now? We are in a tiny village.

He is otherwise supportive kind and patient but swearing at me is a red flag and I don’t want to continue the relationship.

OP posts:
Singersong · 13/06/2024 06:54

buma · 13/06/2024 06:50

Am I the only one that doesn't think this is that bad?
He was clearly frustrated with everything and it came out in the wrong way. If he doesn't regularly tell you to fuck off and swear at you, then I think you can make it work.

You're definitely not the only one

teatimeplease · 13/06/2024 07:14

Newnamehiwhodis · 13/06/2024 04:59

There’s one thing here that bugs me, and I’m just going by my own past, so disregard if it doesn’t apply, OP.

You’re stressed. You’re looking for jobs and having interviews soon. Instead of being supportive and understanding, he has brought out arguments and blame, nitpicked you, fucking NOT supporting your confidence, going on at you for being quiet, and ending up in shouting at you to fuck off , and basically being a non-understanding asshole.

this isn’t the way to support someone when they’ve got an interview they’re already nervous for. In fact, this is the way to sabotage them.

and you’ve only been together a year?!

if someone yelled at me to fuck off after a year together, I absolutely would be done.

other posters can bring in all the apologetics about the poor little man’s patience being tried, and they can also go ahead and live with this kind of behavior.

I don’t think he sounds like a good partner at ALL.

Edited

I think there's 2 sides to this, he's either like what this poster has said OR he's sick to death of dealing with your job stress, he thought a holiday might give it a bit of a break and time for you to both relax. You've been talking about your answers for the interview and he's thought they need to be stronger as he wants you to get the job! You've then gone in to a mood because of this and he's called you out on it.

It's not ideal him telling you to fuck off but he has potentially got to the end of his tether if this has been going on for a long time.

You say he guesses at your moods, I mean how often are you just going "quiet" because it sounds like a quiet mood is a reaction and he's potentially doesn't know if he's done something wrong or not.

I'm not saying this is the case but I think it's another option 🤷🏻‍♀️

AgathaAllAlong · 13/06/2024 07:34

I think the perspective in these posts is skewed. It's fine - good even - to expect not to be sworn at and to not want to continue a relationship where you're sworn at. It's not been long, there's no children involved, just walk away. It's perfectly normal to expect someone to treat you with respect and not use aggression towards you.

If I ever dated again I would not tolerate swearing. I would let them know in advance (and may give a one warning system if I loved them). This is because I was in a verbally abusive relationship that escalated massively from the occasional angry "fuck off" to regular aggressive shouting, swearing and name calling. It's a red flag for me now, and because of my history, it's deeply upsetting. I'd rather be on my own than be told to fuck off, even once a year. My parents never swore at each other, I have never sworn at DC or partners (and I swear a lot in general) - it's not hard to not be aggressive to the people you love.

Also on people saying she shouldn't have had the job interview - what are you actually on about. Do you expect her to turn down an important opportunity because she's away? Some people have clearly never experienced job insecurity and the immense stress that comes with it.

Mindyourownbusinessmadam · 13/06/2024 07:36

Jeez I bet he was glad to see the back of you last night!
You do sound like hard work. But you know that. And if he's still about this morning then you owe him a BIG apology!

FunIsland · 13/06/2024 08:00

Confusedandconfusedandconfused · 12/06/2024 21:58

Thank you for the feedback! It’s clear I have a lot to change about how I behave! Not being sarcastic, being genuine. Clearly I have messed up.

This is so refreshing to read; sometimes emotion runs away with us and we behave in ways which are difficult for others but without zooming out and looking from another perspective we can’t see it because we’re so deep in it.

So many times people get so sleep in the defensive position that they just refuse to see another perspective, opening your mind and hearing feedback is such an emotionally mature thing to do. I know that sounds patronising and I don’t mean it to, I just couldn’t think of another way to say it.

Anyway good luck with the applications.

XiCi · 13/06/2024 08:02

Why in earth didn't you rearrange the interview for when you were back from holiday? Can you even guarantee good enough Internet connection in a 'tiny village'. Completely understand why your DH was pissed about the trip being ruined and you moving rooms is a complete overreaction

Meetingofminds · 13/06/2024 08:05

I don’t think I would ask for feedback unless I was comfortable receiving it. That said I don’t think I would tolerate such aggressive behaviour from my partner either, and it doesn’t bode well.

AtrociousCircumstance · 13/06/2024 08:10

@Confusedandconfusedandconfused Please don’t passively accept all the posters telling you him swearing at you is not that bad/your fault etc.

He was obviously insensitive in how he delivered his feedback which was uncalled for. Telling you to fuck off is so aggressive. I don’t blame you from wanting space from the relationship.

Good luck with your job search.

Bababa2456 · 13/06/2024 08:10

I read as far as you have an interview the next day.

Why?

I thought I'd misread as you're away abroad in a tiny village.

Was there no option to have that interview somewhere else?

I think you both need to sit down and talk this through.

I've been married 35 years with all its ups and downs.
Swearing happens and it doesn't have to be 'the end'. I've got a fiery side and have often told DH to f off. But 10 minutes later I'm apologising.

I've friends where they throw things at each other during rows.
And they've been married 40 years.

I think you were both unreasonable.
You for making your holiday more about your job interview.
Him for getting ratty and impatient with you.

You need to look at the last 1.5 years and decide if you're compatible. Not flounce because of one 'fuck off.'

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:15

Confusedandconfusedandconfused · 12/06/2024 20:06

It’s a few days until the flight.

How it started was - I have an interview tomorrow that I’m stressed about. He told me he thought some of my responses weren’t that strong and told me why. We work in different industries and I, probably wrongly, was just feeling a bit annoyed by the critical feedback.

We then walked back into our room in silence and he said that I was “clearly furious”. Admittedly I wasn’t too happy but he frequently tries to interpret my moods saying that “I’m not myself” etc which I find annoying when actually I’m just feeling quiet.

he kept saying he didn’t know what he had done and I said he hadn’t done anything and I was just feeling a bit stressed / not up to it.

He then said this was “another night ruined” and said that my job search has really been impacting both of us. It has! I can only apologise and have thanked him a lot for his support.

He then left our room shouting about how i had ruined things and his final words were “fuck off” in a really aggressive pointed tone.

this is the first time either of us has sworn at one another in our relationship. I’m pretty sure he knows that I don’t like this.

Edited

Admittedly I wasn’t too happy but he frequently tries to interpret my moods saying that “I’m not myself” etc which I find annoying when actually I’m just feeling quiet.

Having someone gaslight you about your own feelings is far bigger problem than swearing.

Run, do not walk, away from this man. Can you book an earlier flight?

Singersong · 13/06/2024 08:17

By the way OP, giving him the silent treatment is emotionally abusive.

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:17

DogInATent · 12/06/2024 20:08

You're on a few days away together.
And you're doing job interviews in that period?

Sometimes, you don't get to choose when the interview is.

Crystallizedring · 13/06/2024 08:19

SeverinaVichenza · 13/06/2024 00:22

He was verbally and physically intimidating towards her, how is that not dangerous? Not only does she need to get as far away from this man but quite frankly the police should be informed in case he unleashes another vitriolic tirade at his future partner.

You want her to call the police?! And say what exactly? My boyfriend told me to fuck off. I'm sure the police will go and arrest him for that.

Renamed · 13/06/2024 08:22

I think that criticism sounds quite constructive. I can imagine feeling annoyed if my partner asked me for feedback, I gave it, and they then became withdrawn silent and cancelled plans for dinner so I had to go alone - sure, swearing was a bit much - but…

CoffeeCatsAndVodka · 13/06/2024 08:23

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:15

Admittedly I wasn’t too happy but he frequently tries to interpret my moods saying that “I’m not myself” etc which I find annoying when actually I’m just feeling quiet.

Having someone gaslight you about your own feelings is far bigger problem than swearing.

Run, do not walk, away from this man. Can you book an earlier flight?

I disagree, I think someone saying "You're not yourself" is a nice, kind way of saying "You are being an absolute bitch but I'm trying to think there is a reason behind your behaviour"!

echt · 13/06/2024 08:24

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:15

Admittedly I wasn’t too happy but he frequently tries to interpret my moods saying that “I’m not myself” etc which I find annoying when actually I’m just feeling quiet.

Having someone gaslight you about your own feelings is far bigger problem than swearing.

Run, do not walk, away from this man. Can you book an earlier flight?

That is not gaslighting. Look it up.

He is offering what it looks like to him, i.e. she is usually different. This is not gaslighting.

AmelieTaylor · 13/06/2024 08:26

Confusedandconfusedandconfused · 12/06/2024 21:06

I’ve gone to stay somewhere else and he has said “have it your way if you want to escalate”. No apology or anything

He's not wrong.

YABRU leaving him because of this. He said it as he was leaving, not AT you, in your face.

You sound like you've ruined the few days away, been pretty shitty with him & he'd had enough.

if you don't want to be with him anymore anyway, fine, but to lay it all on him muttering 'fuck off' like that is unfair.

GreyCarpet · 13/06/2024 08:26

Tbh, if I'd gone on holiday for a few days following a few stressful months of job hunting that had (by OP's admission) impacted on the relationship, I could just about tolerate them doing an interview while we were away.

But if that were also impacting on the holiday to the point they were talking about it, reacting badly to feedback they'd asked for, cancelled dinner etc, I'd also have considered to have ruined the holiday.

I don't know of I'd have told them to "fuck off then" because I've never been in that position. But I'd certainly have been thinking it.

The OP is entitled to have her boundaries but I do think the context here is relevant.

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:27

Confusedandconfusedandconfused · 12/06/2024 21:06

I’ve gone to stay somewhere else and he has said “have it your way if you want to escalate”. No apology or anything

He describes you wanting to leave an uncomfortable situation, an act that will ensure that you get a good night's sleep ahead of your interview, as "escalating"?

Leave this man. You will spend the rest of your relationship walking on eggshells waiting for him to kick off again.

echt · 13/06/2024 08:28

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:27

He describes you wanting to leave an uncomfortable situation, an act that will ensure that you get a good night's sleep ahead of your interview, as "escalating"?

Leave this man. You will spend the rest of your relationship walking on eggshells waiting for him to kick off again.

Yes she is escalating, taking the expression of her dissatisfaction to a higher level.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/06/2024 08:29

MasterOfCake · 12/06/2024 20:50

I don’t condone his swearing at all but I would have probably lost it eventually if DH ruined a holiday by preparing for interviews and then when I gave feedback to try and help, went stroppy and didn’t want to go out for dinner, ruining the whole evening. And seeing as your BF says “again” sounds like it was more than than once.

And then to act all wounded and victimised when I finally lost it. I would have been fuming.

Telling you to fuck off is not ok, but otherwise I completely get his frustration.

This.

kayla22 · 13/06/2024 08:30

@Hadjab are you ok hahahahaha wtf. You need to calm yourself down, what a drama honestly

Choochoo21 · 13/06/2024 08:31

You actually sound quite difficult OP.

It almost sounds like you wanted to ruin the holiday and you’ve gone and stayed somewhere else to create a drama and hope he’ll beg for you to come back.

Relationships are not meant to be this difficult, especially when you’re on holiday!!

Neither of you should have been discussing work matters or anything heavy on holiday and if you did want to discuss it then you shouldn’t have taken offence if he’s giving you constructive feedback.

It sounds like this relationship just doesn’t work.
If you’re falling out on holiday then I can’t imagine what it’s like when you’re at home.

Are you both just so busy that you don’t see each other much, which is why you feel like the relationship is working?
Or are there issues at home too?

MaidOfAle · 13/06/2024 08:32

echt · 13/06/2024 08:24

That is not gaslighting. Look it up.

He is offering what it looks like to him, i.e. she is usually different. This is not gaslighting.

He "tries to interpret her moods". He tells her that she is feeling whatever he thinks she feels, not what she actually feels. He is trying to impose his opinion over her actual feelings. He is trying to override her perception of events, which is gaslighting.

He is enacting the ninth rule of misogyny.

SerafinasGoose · 13/06/2024 08:33

The 'fuck off' bit wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me, OP, unless indicative of a broader pattern of abusive language and in the context of your own (understandable) preoccupation with finding a new job. Taking that on holiday would undeniably be frustrating for any partner. I find his accusation of 'escalating' more concerning. He certainly knows the established language associated with patterns of abuse. I'd want to get to the bottom of this (for clarification this isn't an automatic 'LTB').

But that's me. You're entitled to your own boundaries, and no one on the www can dictate to you what these are.

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