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Fiancé bought a STI kit after stag do

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Soconfused2 · 16/05/2024 00:57

I saw an email over my fiances shoulder from an online pharmacy for an sti kit, a week after he got back from his stag do. I never ever thought I’d be the type of woman who wouldn’t say anything / confront him but we are less than 2 weeks out from our wedding and I don’t know how to approach the subject. One minute I’m convincing myself he purchased it for someone else and the next I’m beside myself not knowing what to do / how I’m supposed to marry him. How should I bring it up?! What do I say?!

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this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pamela, well said!!!!!!!!

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Nationalelf · 16/05/2024 12:45

So so sorry this has happened to you. You are not an idiot and it is not uncommon. Sadly there are a few guys out there who just can’t stop themselves, they think with their dicks, not their brains. I suspected my ex-husband was cheating on me, ignored it, got married (for 24years) then discovered he had been using prostitutes regularly, spending enormous amounts of family income in the process. When confronted, he lied, lied and lied until I could prove his actions. We have 3 kids and the impact was devastating and I would not wish that on anyone else. My advice? Confront him, tell him to leave immediately and end the relationship. I’m sure there were red flags during your time together that you chose to ignore and when you reflect, you will see that. You will find happiness elsewhere. Wishing you all the best x

BrandySnaps1 · 16/05/2024 12:50

This is horrible. Has there been an update yet? I hate stag dos, such an excuse to act horrendously in the name of fun but ruins a lot of relationships

ImANameChanger01 · 16/05/2024 12:53

OP. If he is not excited to be 100% faithful to you two weeks before your wedding when he should be at his happiest, he will most certainly be unfaithful during the marriage when times get tough/babies come along/work stress etc.

It will be so difficult to cancel the wedding at this point, but it will be so so much worse getting a divorce when you are more tied together and potentially with children.

If he has cheated 2 weeks before your wedding, no happiness can come from this marriage.

oakleaffy · 16/05/2024 12:54

Soconfused2 · 16/05/2024 01:10

I already feel like an idiot. Of course I know he didn’t buy it for someone else but I just don’t want to believe that he would do that to me :-( I can’t explain the emotions I’m feeling at the moment and I’m so hurt and scared, this is going to completely change my life. I didn’t say anything at the time as in that split second I knew it was all over and I’m not ready to accept that. I have never ever understood women who stay with their partners after they cheat but now I realise why 😥

@Soconfused2 Please don't marry this faithless man.

If he's having sex with others while you are still unmarried, then he's going to ramp that right up once the knot is tied.

He's disrespectful to you as his partner.. and will carry on being disrespectful after you are shackled to him.

Living with an unfaithful partner is not what most women want.

You can do so much better!

A friend looked like a rabbit in the headlights on the morning of their Wedding.
I said to them ''It's not too late to back out now...''

Sadly the one with doubts went ahead with it, as everyone was there, and it was hard to pull out at that stage.

Sure enough, their marriage partner was unfaithful to them repeatedly after the marriage, and it ended in a painful and expensive divorce.

Thankfully no children involved.

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 16/05/2024 12:55

My heart goes out to you OP. But you know yourself that it's over. If he cheated on you before you're even married and is happy to order an STI check and carry on as normal with you then it will only get worse. The idea of calling the wedding off and not having the big day you'd wished for and everyone has been looking forward to must be horrific. BUT you will get over it. If you go ahead and marry him, there is zero trust there and HE WILL continue to cheat on you. You will have a very unhappy marriage/life. Please just call it off now, rip off the plaster. Tell your close family and friends that he's been unfaithful. Let him take the blame (rightly so) and then move on without that obnoxious man dragging you down. You deserve so much better Flowers

oakleaffy · 16/05/2024 13:00

@Soconfused2 If you call the wedding off, people will respect you.
It takes enormous courage to do this for the sake of your future happiness.

No one calls of a wedding without good reason.

Infidelity is the number one good reason to call it off.

You will be glad you did, sparing yourself months/years/decades of anguish.

Nationalelf · 16/05/2024 13:01

I completely understand your feelings and how scared you must be feeling right now. But please, please, please listen to all the good advice, surround yourself with supportive friends and family and get this cheating, disrespectful, sorry excuse for a fiancé out of your life immediately. Is he a narcissist I wonder🤔

Sunshine45688 · 16/05/2024 13:06

I got married knowing it's probably a mistake but I was too embarrassed to call it off. The subsequent divorce a year later was A LOT more painful and embarrassing, trust me.

TheBestEverMouse · 16/05/2024 13:15

A question asked out of curiosity. Why should the OP cancel the wedding herself? It'll be a lot of hassle and upset having to explain herself each time. Perhaps she should tell her friends and family and leave the rest to him to cancel.

abracadabra1980 · 16/05/2024 13:16

Oh dear OP. This is the worst feeling. I'll just tell you my story (shortened version of what could have been a film script).

I was a happily married woman, two beautiful kids - one an IVF baby, achieved 2nd go. Very much wanted by both parents.
Managed to conceive 2nd child naturally (only natural pregnancy I had ever had), not long after 1st child was 5 months old. So two babies.
Very happy family - making plans for future and refurbing a huge new home
Knew each other from being 16 - no money, no guarantees of future £
Loved my inlaws, all GP's got along, all lived locally, in same community.
Financially very comfortable, no worries or arguments over £
He'd worked very hard building up his business and I was a SAHM and worked for our family company.

Then...
ExH seemingly had a mid life crisis. I had no idea at the time, other than him seeming to prefer going out with friends rather than me - one or two on the periphery who dabbled in coke/ecstasy/whatever other drugs they thought made them cool in their 40's 🙄
Started wearing bucket hats like Liam Gallagher 🤣
Never put his phone down (before the days when adults as a rule never put their phones down)
He jumped like a jackinthebox once, when I surprised him one day in the garden whilst on his said phone - weird. Said I gave him a 'fright'.
He started 'nitpicking' at me over things/causing arguments he was never bothered about before; spending money, sex (called me a frigid bitch once). I cried buckets.
I caught him (only the once) looking at himself (seriously) in the large mirror in our hallway - he used to take pride in 'never caring what he looked like' - was a family joke.
He started 'jogging', going out until 11pm after work (he always worked late but that was nothing new.
He flirted massively with one of his friends' girlfriends (very attractive, and slightly younger than us). People commented to me about this. Still; nothing really for me to get overly suspicious over. Too tired with kids to be paranoid.
Went away for a family weekend for xmas, and on the drive back he screamed and swore at me for asking him to slow down - we had two babies in the back of the car. No reason for him to be speeding.

Reason for above behaviour
He'd been having an affair. It only came out after I stole his phone when he was asleep and read the messages (this was before biometric passcodes). He then tortured me by being unwilling to tell me who with. I found out after two days of begging and pleading - and yes I knew her. I knew I would. Utterly distraught. He then told me he thought he 'loved two people'. That was it for me. Out he went, even though house was in his name (we had other properties between us) and I immediately secured a remortgage on the family home. (Yes he tried to remortgage very soon afterwards). He then became what can only be described as evil, towards me, and my family. There were other family members brought into this through no fault of their own (business ties etc..)

Red flags
Flirty, funny, engaging, reasonably good looking, confident. (I'm not an insecure person nor a jealous one, so these traits didn't bother me).
I appeared to get genital herpes when we were in our 20's from nowhere.
Very short temper and very aggressive when drunk. Loved a drink, but not during the week.

Conclusion
It took nearly 3 years and it to escalate to Crown Court his behaviour was so atrocious.
He had another affair with the girl I originally thought he was dallying around with (his friends girlfriend), by this time they were married so he broke them up. He then returned to the original mistress, who he seems to have remained with, amongst other known affairs. Somebody messaged me anonymously from France, telling me he was having an affair with a school parent... I've no idea who that one was.
I found various things after he left, one of which was a video of him having sex with an 'unknown' woman, in Amsterdam, after a stag do.
And a 'secret' bank account where he bought lots of sex toys.

Like you, I was blindsided. I had known him for over 20 years. It happens, and better you've found out now, than later on. I have since happily remarried, ended up doing a job I loved (retrained) and have lived my best life. I even managed to co-parent with dignity, something I really struggled with, but my kids have grown up to be very well balanced, successful adults. I have tried hard to keep the ugly bits of their dad's behaviour private, and to all intents and purposes, I'm so glad I did. I have to rely on the odd 'your dad provides very well for you' (he does), kind of positivities, rather than 'your dad is such a lovely man/fun/briliant at x,y,z/everyone loves him' kind of thing, that I was lucky enough to hear about my dad.

The truth is, their dad is a sociopath, a narcissistic cunt, and is severely lacking in emotional intelligence. I'm not perfect, but I"m not the 'nutter' he made me out to be, and never was. I also wasn't the frigid bitch he mentioned either - my second husband can vouch for that 😄

You will survive. Wishing you every bit of luck; please don't go through with the wedding. XX

Solidlump · 16/05/2024 13:23

TheBestEverMouse · 16/05/2024 13:15

A question asked out of curiosity. Why should the OP cancel the wedding herself? It'll be a lot of hassle and upset having to explain herself each time. Perhaps she should tell her friends and family and leave the rest to him to cancel.

Well I agree she should tell her friends and family but if she is cancelling the wedding she is making a statement: that HE isn't good enough for her to marry.

ShoeHelpNeeded · 16/05/2024 13:25

I am so sorry he has done this to you. Right now it probably feels like the worst thing you will ever go through but if you marry this man to avoid the public fall out I can guarantee you will end up in the same situation but with a costly divorce and possibly kids caught in the middle. DO NOT MARRY THIS MAN.

I did and it kept happening. It's taken me a long time to build the courage to leave and now we are tied together by a child. I love my child dearly and don't regret being a mum but when I look back I lived a half life. I was not excited or thrilled on my wedding day I just went through the motions. I now realise I've spent years just surviving rather than thriving and it's only now we are separated I am truly finding happiness. That man is not good enough to marry you. Set the bar higher.

Razorwire · 16/05/2024 13:27

Ask him if he has had a result from the STI test, really, you need to know what he’s exposed you to.

Commonsense22 · 16/05/2024 13:28

OP, I am so sorry. I think if you have a good relationship with your mum, call her. Hopefully they will rally around you, take care of communications and practicalities and give you the space to mourn the dream of a happy relationship.

You don't even have to confront him. Go stay somewhere and let a friend inform him. You owe him nothing.

Such a horrid thing to happen. Hopefully, one day you will be grateful you found out just in time. Even if that seems a million miles off now.

Nationalelf · 16/05/2024 13:33

abracadabra1980 · 16/05/2024 13:16

Oh dear OP. This is the worst feeling. I'll just tell you my story (shortened version of what could have been a film script).

I was a happily married woman, two beautiful kids - one an IVF baby, achieved 2nd go. Very much wanted by both parents.
Managed to conceive 2nd child naturally (only natural pregnancy I had ever had), not long after 1st child was 5 months old. So two babies.
Very happy family - making plans for future and refurbing a huge new home
Knew each other from being 16 - no money, no guarantees of future £
Loved my inlaws, all GP's got along, all lived locally, in same community.
Financially very comfortable, no worries or arguments over £
He'd worked very hard building up his business and I was a SAHM and worked for our family company.

Then...
ExH seemingly had a mid life crisis. I had no idea at the time, other than him seeming to prefer going out with friends rather than me - one or two on the periphery who dabbled in coke/ecstasy/whatever other drugs they thought made them cool in their 40's 🙄
Started wearing bucket hats like Liam Gallagher 🤣
Never put his phone down (before the days when adults as a rule never put their phones down)
He jumped like a jackinthebox once, when I surprised him one day in the garden whilst on his said phone - weird. Said I gave him a 'fright'.
He started 'nitpicking' at me over things/causing arguments he was never bothered about before; spending money, sex (called me a frigid bitch once). I cried buckets.
I caught him (only the once) looking at himself (seriously) in the large mirror in our hallway - he used to take pride in 'never caring what he looked like' - was a family joke.
He started 'jogging', going out until 11pm after work (he always worked late but that was nothing new.
He flirted massively with one of his friends' girlfriends (very attractive, and slightly younger than us). People commented to me about this. Still; nothing really for me to get overly suspicious over. Too tired with kids to be paranoid.
Went away for a family weekend for xmas, and on the drive back he screamed and swore at me for asking him to slow down - we had two babies in the back of the car. No reason for him to be speeding.

Reason for above behaviour
He'd been having an affair. It only came out after I stole his phone when he was asleep and read the messages (this was before biometric passcodes). He then tortured me by being unwilling to tell me who with. I found out after two days of begging and pleading - and yes I knew her. I knew I would. Utterly distraught. He then told me he thought he 'loved two people'. That was it for me. Out he went, even though house was in his name (we had other properties between us) and I immediately secured a remortgage on the family home. (Yes he tried to remortgage very soon afterwards). He then became what can only be described as evil, towards me, and my family. There were other family members brought into this through no fault of their own (business ties etc..)

Red flags
Flirty, funny, engaging, reasonably good looking, confident. (I'm not an insecure person nor a jealous one, so these traits didn't bother me).
I appeared to get genital herpes when we were in our 20's from nowhere.
Very short temper and very aggressive when drunk. Loved a drink, but not during the week.

Conclusion
It took nearly 3 years and it to escalate to Crown Court his behaviour was so atrocious.
He had another affair with the girl I originally thought he was dallying around with (his friends girlfriend), by this time they were married so he broke them up. He then returned to the original mistress, who he seems to have remained with, amongst other known affairs. Somebody messaged me anonymously from France, telling me he was having an affair with a school parent... I've no idea who that one was.
I found various things after he left, one of which was a video of him having sex with an 'unknown' woman, in Amsterdam, after a stag do.
And a 'secret' bank account where he bought lots of sex toys.

Like you, I was blindsided. I had known him for over 20 years. It happens, and better you've found out now, than later on. I have since happily remarried, ended up doing a job I loved (retrained) and have lived my best life. I even managed to co-parent with dignity, something I really struggled with, but my kids have grown up to be very well balanced, successful adults. I have tried hard to keep the ugly bits of their dad's behaviour private, and to all intents and purposes, I'm so glad I did. I have to rely on the odd 'your dad provides very well for you' (he does), kind of positivities, rather than 'your dad is such a lovely man/fun/briliant at x,y,z/everyone loves him' kind of thing, that I was lucky enough to hear about my dad.

The truth is, their dad is a sociopath, a narcissistic cunt, and is severely lacking in emotional intelligence. I'm not perfect, but I"m not the 'nutter' he made me out to be, and never was. I also wasn't the frigid bitch he mentioned either - my second husband can vouch for that 😄

You will survive. Wishing you every bit of luck; please don't go through with the wedding. XX

My oh my. You poor lady. The flirting, loving themself (a little bit too much!) drinking, charming those around him (but in reality, their friends are just a weird bunch of hangers on)shouting, blaming you for going elsewhere for sex and generally making you feel like you are the cause of his behaviours? Sociopath, narcissist…truly terrifying, destructive people. I called the police on my ex once for smashing up a bedroom wall in front of the kids. That was my fault, I made him do it. I was the cause of it. Apparently.

I truly feel for any woman who ends up with one of those abhorrent men. But, the positive is you know EXACTLY what to look for in your next partner and DO NOT end up taking the same bullshit, year after year. You really are a strong woman and will be a good role model for your kids! That’s what mine tell me😊

godmum56 · 16/05/2024 13:35

This is going to sound frivolous but its my honest, serious reaction. Be grateful that you have dodged a bullet.

Caroparo52 · 16/05/2024 13:40

If you have doubts then confront him and or postpone wedding. A marriage is a complex legal agreement. Its serious shit. Better a little pain now than huge amount later.

TrustPenguins · 16/05/2024 13:44

Bless you OP, what an awful situation.
I'd definitely have to confront him. His reaction should tell you all you need to know.

TemuSpecialBuy · 16/05/2024 13:45

Icehockeyflowers · 16/05/2024 01:01

OP you know he bought this for himself. You know he had sex with someone else a few weeks before he is/was due to marry you.
Do not marry this man. Do not marry this man. Do not marry this man.

This.

I am so sorry.

Dadjoke007 · 16/05/2024 13:52

First of all, I would say you should be 100% certain that it is what it looks like (and I will be honest, he is probably as guilty as a dog sitting next to a pile of poop)! But, there COULD be an explanation for this. For example, it was for his mate, who is seeing one of your mates, hence not telling you. Now, I would not believe that at face value but if there was a message sent a week or so ago from said mate saying can you get me one then that would explain it. But you need to see what he has to say.

the only doubt I have in my mind is why would he have that email open - surely get it sent to a quickly created gmail account rather than your main one, and don't have it open when OH is around, and certainly next or behind you! That's the only bit that maybe gives me a small amount of doubt.

Then, if he comes clean about it, you will have to decide if that is something to forgive or not (personally 2 weeks before wedding = no, after a 15 year marriage with kids etc, then possibly) but you would need to at least postpone the wedding.

Personally I hate stag do's. I got ribbed on last one I went to as I was one of the only in our group not to get a lap dance. I didn't even have a stag do. Have seen guys humiliated, boobs in face, hands down trousers etc... Not acceptable in my book. Not sure if hen dos are any different but have been in pubs when a bride to be has been taking off a guys pants as trophy etc.. so guessing its similar.

Good luck, you need to have a frank chat with him and saying it was a mates is not enough - you need proper proof!

Fontainebleau007 · 16/05/2024 13:52

Oh my goodness that's awful I'm so sorry. If it was me I would straight up ask him what the hell is going on? I wouldn't pussy foot around it. You're supposed to be marrying this man? Get to the bottom of it OP before it's too late. X

Alittlefrustrated · 16/05/2024 13:53

I can't see the point in confronting him for answers - surely he'll just lie? Say it's for a friend? I absolutely would be letting him know I know he's cheated, and the wedding is off. Be prepared for others to surprise you, by trying to talk you into the marriage OP. Including those who love you. People panic in these situations. Stand firm by what you feel is best for you.

VikingsandDragons · 16/05/2024 13:55

Do not marry this man. You'll be back here in 5 years with a baby and a toddler, no financial independance and finding out he's cheated again. 2 weeks before your wedding is messy and heartbreaking, but it's a LOT less messy than going through with it. You won't ever trust this man again because you'll always know that even at the time of your lives you are supposed to be most in love and committed to each other your relationship wasn't enough for him.

YouwouldthinkIhavemoresense · 16/05/2024 14:13

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 16/05/2024 01:17

' I knew it was all over and I’m not ready to accept that '

with less than 2 weeks to the wedding, when are you going to accept it ?
before ? or after the wedding !

This ☝️

You need to get yourself the biggest pair of big girl pants you can find and cancel this wedding.

What a wanker .

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