Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Does anyone else feel like they just don’t fit in anywhere?

178 replies

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 10:35

I don’t know what it is, whether there is something wrong with me. I’ve just always been so bloody awkward around people.

I am a little different I suppose, but not in a bad way, bit of a free spirit. I was the black sheep in my family but not in a major way. I’ve a few friends, they are all a little strange lol. They are people who don’t follow conventions and are more open in how they talk. I don’t do well with people who pretend because I can’t seem to do that myself.

I don’t seem to fit in with my partners family. I’m pleasant but I think they think I’m a bit weird. I don’t think I’m that weird. I find it hard to just put on a smile and get on and pretend.

Anyone else like this?

OP posts:
lentilloved · 12/05/2024 15:56

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 15:50

I think it’s difficult because if I wasn’t feeling like this or struggling with people perhaps I’d fit in really well and there would be no problem. What can he tell them, please like my partner more. They can’t help being them. They make lots of sexual jokes and jokes about women and housework and I hate all that. Jokes about gay people jokes about this and about that, I hate it. Jokes about people’s metal health. If only they knew how I really felt. I don’t think I can really like them, which is probably not helping.

and here you go again OP

i don’t struggle socially and i don’t find jokes about gay people funny fgs

Mummy2024 · 12/05/2024 15:58

lentilloved · 12/05/2024 15:56

and here you go again OP

i don’t struggle socially and i don’t find jokes about gay people funny fgs

I don't think your I'm fine so why arnt you attitude is a help to their self-esteem do you?. They've found the strength to reach out here, this judgement will make them run a mile.... empathy is important in life

lentilloved · 12/05/2024 15:59

Mummy2024 · 12/05/2024 15:58

I don't think your I'm fine so why arnt you attitude is a help to their self-esteem do you?. They've found the strength to reach out here, this judgement will make them run a mile.... empathy is important in life

but can’t you see

it’s the people that the OP is struggling with who are vile and socially incompetent

stayathomer · 12/05/2024 16:02

I’m bad at the social etiquette (ESPECIALLY at things like funerals) and used to think about it a lot but I’ve recently come to the conclusion that I have to just not overthink it. Eg at the school gates, the weather talk is literally just people try to find a way into a conversation they’ll enjoy. If it ends abruptly it’s just that we all went in the wrong direction, not necessarily me. And sometimes you find your people, as you’ve found, and you all get into a decent conversation!! Also it helps to realise other people are actually as nervous as you and nobody has it all sewn up.

Opentooffers · 12/05/2024 16:02

I think you are probably ND yourself which is why you get on with your DH. The noise sensitivity and difficulties you have with small talk are all a clue to that, as is your own masking, then being exhausted, the being outside of the clique in life and all your close friends being perhaps 'quirky', or a bit weird? Weird can just be another way of describing ND.
Tuning out of conversation when there is no personal interest to you, I'm thinking ADHD, it makes it hard to follow people and the mind can drift off. What you might find is that if you force yourself to listen to things that are said, you might not know the person they are talking about, but you might know of someone in your life who has been in similar circumstances. That's your 'in' with the smalltalk, so try not to tune out because you don't know the people, you still could have experiences to share.
For some, small talk comes naturally, for others it's learnt and applied in order to get along in life. Can be tiring though, no harm in taking rest breaks from it.

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:03

@lentilloved I get confused. In my marriage he always used to say “you think you’re so much better than everyone else don’t you”. He was definitely abusive and he is my ex, but those words still stay. I also just want to fit in, I’m so fed up always being the black sheep. But then I can’t fit with this family because I just don’t relate. I’ve grown up my whole like not fitting and it’s draining.

OP posts:
lentilloved · 12/05/2024 16:05

do you have children op? do you work and have colleagues?

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:06

@Opentooffers i just get bored of the conversation. I’m not really interested in who died who I’ve never met and who bought what house and this and that. I do get distracted. My partner always tells me that. I go and make a drink but before that I need to fold this and make that and clean that and then get around to the drink by which time I’ve forgotten lol

OP posts:
Quitelikeit · 12/05/2024 16:07

In a way you are asking too much. You need to attempt to fit in - nobody necessarily fits in anywhere but instead they make the effort to

I mean I know people like your partners family - it’s up to them how they act and what they say in the comfort of their own home. It seems as though you don’t like them rather than you not fitting in.

Perspective is everything

What are you interests?

Quitelikeit · 12/05/2024 16:08

Your*

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:09

@lentilloved yeah two children and work part time. I find work conversation hard as it’s mostly small talk. I have a customer facing job which I really don’t like for that reason. My eldest is a girl and she is very distracted at school. It wouldn’t surprise me is she is ND. When I was married to my ex I used to be so together and organised. I think it was a survival skill to get through life with his temper. Now I’m out of that I really am all over the place, distracted, terrible memory. I think this is the real me.

OP posts:
lentilloved · 12/05/2024 16:11

how do you get on with colleagues?

Op
you have school aged children
work part time
in a long term relationship
and have a small group of friends that you feel comfortable with

i really wouldn’t navel gaze about this anymore. You sound pretty sorted and busy to me!

Added to which, not a chance i’d want my children to ever be in the vicinity of your partners family by the sounds of it. They sound vile

Mummy2024 · 12/05/2024 16:12

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 15:10

I think people are putting words into my mouth. I have never said that others are dull. I said that I don’t understand all the small talk. I don’t get how or why I’m supposed to do it. I would very much love to be loved by my partners parents, any family would be a bonus. It causes me sadness that I have never felt like I fit in anywhere. I will but I’m extremely awkward in situations where I need to sit around a table or sit through a family bingo session. I’d rather run off and do something else. His parents make comments because I don’t do things I’m supposed to do. They don’t know me at all, I mask so badly I don’t like myself. The conversations usually revolve around people they all know who I’ve no interest in because I don’t them or I just don’t like to talk about other people. When I look around it seems to me like everyone is not being themselves. Jokes are mostly about others or sexual, they talk about houses prices and puzzles stuff I can’t relate to. I sit in silence most of the time. If I say something they literally look at me like I’m weird. I am weird so I get that, well I feel weird.

Hi OP I felt it important to reach out to you personally. I've gleaned a couple of things from your posts and I want to help. Firstly I noticed you said any family would be a bonus. This suggests you have family issues or a troubled family life?

Secondly and most importantly I want you to know your not weird. Your words echo my sons words and I mean they are exact. He was bullied mercilessly in school and the affect its had on him breaks my heart daily.

He says he could be in a room full of people who love him and still feel alone. He describes himself as weird and says when he does try to get involved in a group discussion he is made to feel stupid or at least that's his take on it.

He has social anxiety hates group situations and I do wonder if he has asd aswell. I'm currently trying to help him with some small successes at the moment.

Your far from alone there are so so many people in the world saying exactly the same words as you, feel exactly the same as you but there is help. Just know you are not to blame, your not weird and are most likely an amazing kind and interesting person with alot of talent. I don't know if you are in the uk but access NHS talking therapy if you are. You can self reffer, I'm not saying it will work but it's worth a try, you can also approach your gp for some anxiety medication if you want to try that but I know that it doesn't work for everyone.

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:12

@Quitelikeit there are aspects that I do like about them and then others that I don’t. As a whole I’m not sure which way I sway. I would really love to love them more but they behave in a way that makes me feel bad about myself. I’ve lots of different interests. None of which we have in common. I’m very emotionally driven in things I do. His family are practically driven, we can’t understand each other.

OP posts:
lentilloved · 12/05/2024 16:13

They make lots of sexual jokes and jokes about women and housework and I hate all that. Jokes about gay people jokes about this and about that, I hate it. Jokes about people’s metal health.

why on earth are you bothered about not being close to people like this?

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:15

@Mummy2024 I’m not anxious at all. Apart from with people who make me feel bad. I don’t like a lot of stuff but I’m able to realise I need to do it without being anxious.

OP posts:
Mummy2024 · 12/05/2024 16:18

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:15

@Mummy2024 I’m not anxious at all. Apart from with people who make me feel bad. I don’t like a lot of stuff but I’m able to realise I need to do it without being anxious.

It's good if you don't feel anxious but social anxiety is more about group situations and being judged so instead shrinking back and becoming invisible rather than physical anxiety. Could be asd, but given some of the things you've said calling yourself weird saying people look at you like your weird etc it suggests a self esteem problem to me

Mummy2024 · 12/05/2024 16:20

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:15

@Mummy2024 I’m not anxious at all. Apart from with people who make me feel bad. I don’t like a lot of stuff but I’m able to realise I need to do it without being anxious.

I would at least look into social anxiety or visit your gp for an asd refferal and also try really hard to see that your not weird you great and if people don't see that then that is a them problem, not a you problem

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:24

@Mummy2024 I don’t hate that I’m a little weird or different. I don’t want to be like everyone else. I don’t see why I have to mask so hard to appear like everyone else. People are extremely judgmental I find. It’s easier to fit in and be accepted than be alone. I’d prefer to be me and feel accepted. I just can’t seem to find that in a family situation. I hate being the outsider in a family setting. I don’t care too much about friends. I understand I pick and choose my friends based on how we connect.

OP posts:
DancingFerret · 12/05/2024 16:25

I said it further up this thread, OP, and having read your further comments I'm almost convinced you're just an introvert who has yet to find her own tribe (as in social connections, not by binning your husband - even if they all think you've got two heads.)

Mummy2024 · 12/05/2024 16:33

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:24

@Mummy2024 I don’t hate that I’m a little weird or different. I don’t want to be like everyone else. I don’t see why I have to mask so hard to appear like everyone else. People are extremely judgmental I find. It’s easier to fit in and be accepted than be alone. I’d prefer to be me and feel accepted. I just can’t seem to find that in a family situation. I hate being the outsider in a family setting. I don’t care too much about friends. I understand I pick and choose my friends based on how we connect.

Hmm, I get mixed messages from your posts. You say you want to be accepted for you? But how do you know that you are not? It seems that you are sensitive to criticism maybe? Which again is a self esteem issue. I understand that you seem to have accepted who you are but I still feel you have a possibly unjustified sense that others don't accept you? I mean if you can't join in on conversations that bore you raise your own topic if your confidence will allow?

lentilloved · 12/05/2024 16:36

lentilloved · 12/05/2024 16:13

They make lots of sexual jokes and jokes about women and housework and I hate all that. Jokes about gay people jokes about this and about that, I hate it. Jokes about people’s metal health.

why on earth are you bothered about not being close to people like this?

?

Pupupthenight · 12/05/2024 16:39

Are you autistic? I think people are pretending too because they are. "How are you?" You'd think they want an answer but they don't, it's a greeting.
Small talk about the weather and other such bollocks, who cares? Nobody talks about anything real, they talk about superficial crap and bitch about each other.
Who wants to fit in with that?

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 16:41

@Mummy2024 I mask and force myself to join in most of the time because if I didn’t I’d sit in an awkward silence. I can’t really explain myself. I think perhaps in this care of the family we are just too different. Perhaps they accept that and don’t really like me, I can’t do anything about that. I wish I could stop masking though and be confident in just being me. That person would definitely not conform and I would be on the outside all the time.

OP posts:
RedHelenB · 12/05/2024 16:42

Simplefoke · 12/05/2024 11:26

@localnotail no I don’t really like spending time with them because I have to mask and pretend I’m someone I’m not because they are all clicky and I don’t fit it. If I let myself out then it’s obvious I really don’t fit. It’s not their fault but they aren’t very accommodating. I know the people who I fit with, these aren’t them. I try because it’s family but I don’t enjoy the time.

NT people do that too. Is your partner nothing like his family then, as presumably you fit in with him?