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Anybody else desperately trying not to contact a guy?

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FuckSakeGetAGrip · 06/05/2024 12:02

I am, and it's honest to god wrecking me.

Please tell me someone else is struggling too.

I'll hold your hand if you'll hold mine...

OP posts:
Dadjoke007 · 04/06/2024 10:48

crackofdoom · 04/06/2024 09:09

I think* they did some research on attraction, and found out that people who play hot/ cold and keep you permanently confused can, indeed, provoke the strongest feelings- more than being consistently attentive. It's a nasty psychological trick.

*read it somewhere. God knows where 😆

I can relate to that. I have posted a while back on my on/off relationship.

In short her ex came back on the scene and is a big pull. We split, but still saw each other, he came down a couple of weekends, she the decided it was me. But after 2 weeks was having doubts again. Ended it again on Sunday night as I am going absolutely crazy. Aside from this we have had an amazing 10 months, and Saturday were together all day as was blissful!

Anyway, she messages me at 5am yesterday saying she is doubting and feeling physically sick, but she is hating herself for hurting the "most perfect guy she has met". Then said she feels like she has been physically punched in the chest, thinking about me all the time. I go quiet for most of the day then reply and we end up chatting loads. She then sends me a screen shot of a chat with her 15yo daughter who says she is being an idiot/twat over this and that he (I) makes you so happy and she can see us living together all fine. WTF - that really hit home as we all (families) get on so well and if it's obvious to people like her daughter what is the issue?

Am a wreck at the moment, so anxious. This is the best relationship I have ever had (including my 20+ year relationship to kids mum) and we have this amazing connection. I so want to just not contact but it feels like I am then shutting the door on us even though this is making me feel awful.

Question for the women, and I hate to sound stereotypical and blame menopause but she is peri and could this be a factor as well?

Dadjoke007 · 04/06/2024 10:49

Mean to say, have been going crazy inside, not acting like an idiot!

crackofdoom · 04/06/2024 10:58

Dadjoke007 · 04/06/2024 10:48

I can relate to that. I have posted a while back on my on/off relationship.

In short her ex came back on the scene and is a big pull. We split, but still saw each other, he came down a couple of weekends, she the decided it was me. But after 2 weeks was having doubts again. Ended it again on Sunday night as I am going absolutely crazy. Aside from this we have had an amazing 10 months, and Saturday were together all day as was blissful!

Anyway, she messages me at 5am yesterday saying she is doubting and feeling physically sick, but she is hating herself for hurting the "most perfect guy she has met". Then said she feels like she has been physically punched in the chest, thinking about me all the time. I go quiet for most of the day then reply and we end up chatting loads. She then sends me a screen shot of a chat with her 15yo daughter who says she is being an idiot/twat over this and that he (I) makes you so happy and she can see us living together all fine. WTF - that really hit home as we all (families) get on so well and if it's obvious to people like her daughter what is the issue?

Am a wreck at the moment, so anxious. This is the best relationship I have ever had (including my 20+ year relationship to kids mum) and we have this amazing connection. I so want to just not contact but it feels like I am then shutting the door on us even though this is making me feel awful.

Question for the women, and I hate to sound stereotypical and blame menopause but she is peri and could this be a factor as well?

Meh to the peri bit. I mean yes, it's difficult, but I'm wary of ascribing too much to "hormonal women". Arseholes are gonna...er...arse. Men have hormonal problems too in midlife- declining testosterone is no fun I hear.

I would also be wary of anyone using their 15 year old DD as a relationship confidante. Parentification is a harmful thing.

namechangeforthis5 · 04/06/2024 11:30

Totally agree! Wtf 😂

namechangeforthis5 · 04/06/2024 11:31

JustWannaBeWorthIt · 04/06/2024 10:44

Yeah nothing is quite enough to satisfy. It's so fucking stupid. They're just basic as fuck guys!

Sorry that was in response to this

Thewookiemustgo · 04/06/2024 11:43

https://livingwithlimerence.com/the-best-cure-for-limerence/

Interesting website called livingwithlimerance.com. Some of it might strike a chord for some of you as to why it goes on for so long and is so hard to break free from. It’s why affairs or obsessions with exes or fantasy crushes can go on for years, then when they get discovered or one party calls time on it, nine times out of ten it just implodes and with the new cold turkey scenario, most are left scratching their heads as to why they ever got so obsessed.
I read loads of different articles/ books on relationship psychology and some of it resonates with me and I disregard what doesn’t.
Hope it’s useful to some of you in some way, it might not be, haven’t had a look round the website itself but I think this article has some good points.

namechangeforthis5 · 04/06/2024 13:17

Thanks @Thewookiemustgo that’s very interesting and helpful. I know my problem is my low self esteem

Thewookiemustgo · 04/06/2024 13:28

@namechangeforthis5 I’ve always struggled with this, what I try to do is decide whose voice is in my head when I’m having a go at myself. Whose opinion am I listening to or what did somebody say/ how did they look at me which made my feel bad about myself. Far too often I give others a bigger voice than me, give their opinion more weight than the facts or the evidence which show I’m not the person I’m describing myself internally as at all. Life is precious, we’re all alive, therefore we all have intrinsic value for just existing! Find your voice, make a list of all the positive things about you and all your achievements and qualities. You’ll be surprised in a positive way! Look at your list mentally every time you hear those nasty things in your head that you are beating yourself up with.
It honestly helps!

Peaceatlast01 · 04/06/2024 13:39

Hello,

I’ve been lurking on this thread for a while but thought my story may help some of you- I’m several months down the line and I promise the urge/need/want to text or reach out does diminish over time.

I met someone at work 6 years ago, which pretty quickly developed into, I guess, an emotional affair and we REALLY fancied one another. This went on, on and off, for about 9 months, I called time on it (both in relationships), COVID happened, we didn’t see each other or speak for almost 2 years.

Then, he moved to a new department (I had to interview him for the job!) which meant us working directly together. We got along great as colleagues for maybe 6 months before the messaging outside of work started up again. We never met outside of work, nor did anything physical happen but our relationship was extremely inappropriate both from a work and personal perspective. The second time round though, my feelings where still there but it was a lot less intense, prior to Covid we would message pretty much everyday, this time round I felt it was him that would mostly message first and I felt more in control.

Anyway, end of last year, he got a new job and…that’s that. I just thought to myself…what on earth is the point? When we worked together in the office, it was so nice for things not to be awkward and honestly no one had a clue from the way we acted, but I still had what lots of you describe about constantly checking my phone, dissatisfied with responses, wanting more, wanting less. And of course, the guilt and remorse just got worse.

So, during his last week, I messaged and kept it really brief, just said I think it’s better that we just call it a day. We could never be half in half out, could never just be friends or just colleagues, we weren’t going to see each other any more because of him working elsewhere…It just felt like the right time and the right decision.

He was hurt I think, but respected my decision and we haven’t spoke since. That was January this year. I miss him, I miss his friendship, BUT, I do not miss the highs and lows that many of you speak of. I do not miss the feelings of guilt with every message, even just the friendly check in ones.

neither of us have social media so no way of keeping tabs, though I did get a LinkedIn notification recently to say he’d viewed my profile, so I do wonder if he misses me too (I know that sounds sad but LinkedIn was how we messaged initially so there’s more to it than just him randomly viewing my profile!)

Those of you who want to stop whatever sort of situation you’re in…you can do it. You will feel better, and stronger for it. You will have control if you decide to be the one to make the call, and to me that means a lot.

Don't text first, leave them wondering if you’re wondering about them.

A PP said “If they leave you hungry, leave them starving” and motos to this effect really help me. Another one is “you were a dragon long before he came around and said you could fly, and you’ll still be a dragon long after he’s gone”

Okay, the dragon part is iffy but essentially, this person doesn’t define you, you’re still funny and attractive and desirable and all those things we feel because of these men, you are still these things and more without them, you don’t need to be hanging off every word and text they decide we do or don’t deserve. You deserve better than hot and cold, pick up and put down.

You can do this, in 1 month, 3 months, 1 year, you’ll thank yourself, I promise.

PS sorry that was long!

Frith2013 · 04/06/2024 13:44

I was driving today and saw mine. He didn't see me. He was walking and deep in conversation with his close friend. He looked fine.

I feel almost embarrassed to say I felt almost nothing.

winc · 04/06/2024 13:46

Goodness , lots to catch up on this thread! I deliberately haven't come on recently -have been trying to keep myself busy with kids, work, walking -anything to stop me contacting him. And it worked - as of today it has been one week since I told him I was done. I didn't block him completely but he can't see my profile pic or my last online so he will think I have.
And he hasn't contacted me - not surprised. I knew he wouldn't -he completely used me and now he is done. I was a fool but I have learnt a very valuable lesson -I need to take control of relationships and not be swept up in them.
I also had a date with someone at the weekend - a walking date - it went well - but he said after he couldn't tell if I liked him - I think I was afraid of giving anything away.

namechangeforthis5 · 04/06/2024 14:54

@Peaceatlast01 thank you. That’s helpful. I think one of the reasons I’m not messaging mine to say I want to stop is because it leads to us then discussing it and not stopping so would you say it’s better to just not message?

namechangeforthis5 · 04/06/2024 14:55

Frith2013 · 04/06/2024 13:44

I was driving today and saw mine. He didn't see me. He was walking and deep in conversation with his close friend. He looked fine.

I feel almost embarrassed to say I felt almost nothing.

That’s good

BlastedPimples · 04/06/2024 17:15

Urgh. I just Facebook friended mine but I don't remember doing it.

I haven't friend requested anyone in years and years. But then his birthday suddenly popped up on my feed and I checked and he'd become a friend recently.

I think what must have happened is he was on my suggested friends feed, I left the app open and put phone in my jeans and a pocket friend request happened. I wouldn't dream of actively requesting it.

Anyway, he apparently has accepted. I cringe though because he probably thinks I am lovelorn. I am a bit because I find him so attractive but he's just not into me. And there has been no communication since Sunday when I saw his birthday pop up. So I'm even more embarrassed now. He must think I am pitiful and a bit desperate.

Peaceatlast01 · 04/06/2024 17:57

@namechangeforthis5 hmm tough one. I knew I owed him an explanation, he was a dear friend despite all else.

What I didn’t do though, was wear my heart on my sleeve, I’d either be disappointed in his response or he’d convince me to “stay”.

So I just said with you moving on, it feels like the right time to stop contact all together and I know you will respect my wishes. He responded saying it felt very final but that he understood, wished me the best and said hope to bump into you one day…and that was that.

I think go in with a brief explanation of why but make it very definite, this is my decision and I won’t be swayed, thank you for respecting that, goodbye.

Like pulling of a bandaid 😢 but you can do it.

Good luck and report back

namechangeforthis5 · 04/06/2024 19:14

Thank you. What I want to say is obviously you haven’t been doing any thinking while you were away but I know there’s no point and it’s a bit pathetic so writing here instead

JustWannaBeWorthIt · 04/06/2024 19:26

Well that's what the thread is for ❤️

Peaceatlast01 · 04/06/2024 19:50

@namechangeforthis5 take the decision out of his hands then and make it yourself.

What would you tell your best friend to do in this situation? That’s what you need to do.

I promise you can do hard things ❤️

JustWannaBeWorthIt · 05/06/2024 07:13

I'm considering blocking.

Sent him a quick thing yesterday from the news which I know he'd find funny, and he read it and didn't respond. And I just think...what's the point. I really can't be bothered any more.

But blocking suggests some sort of drama to me, and I don't want to convey that I had to block him; it doesn't feel like I have to, it has all just ground to a very 'meh' halt.

So I think probably better to just archive and forget; I feel like if I block it'll stoke his ego more and he'll think 'wow she must really be having a hard time without me'.

I think eternal silence is cooler 😎

namechangeforthis5 · 05/06/2024 08:48

I agree @JustWannaBeWorthIt although I’m planning to say something like what @Peaceatlast01 said if he messages again. Sorry he didn’t reply but honestly just accept that he’s a dick and it’s not you

LizaMinnellisFurCoat · 05/06/2024 09:00

I didn’t block mine. The last message I sent was about wanting to be mates and meeting up for a coffee. He didn’t reply, so I didn’t text again. It’s almost 4 weeks. I feel really good about it. It didn’t end with me looking unhinged and I'm not chasing. I hope it looks like I'm not bothered and maybe I’ll actually not be bothered soon.

JustWannaBeWorthIt · 05/06/2024 09:40

LizaMinnellisFurCoat · 05/06/2024 09:00

I didn’t block mine. The last message I sent was about wanting to be mates and meeting up for a coffee. He didn’t reply, so I didn’t text again. It’s almost 4 weeks. I feel really good about it. It didn’t end with me looking unhinged and I'm not chasing. I hope it looks like I'm not bothered and maybe I’ll actually not be bothered soon.

Yeah that's the vibe I'm going for!

I'm annoyed with myself; I can easily go a week now but I saw this thing that I know he finds funny and it was just autopilot really, because we've known each other so long.

namechangeforthis5 · 05/06/2024 10:28

LizaMinnellisFurCoat · 05/06/2024 09:00

I didn’t block mine. The last message I sent was about wanting to be mates and meeting up for a coffee. He didn’t reply, so I didn’t text again. It’s almost 4 weeks. I feel really good about it. It didn’t end with me looking unhinged and I'm not chasing. I hope it looks like I'm not bothered and maybe I’ll actually not be bothered soon.

I’m hoping mine has hit the same vibe. I’d asked him if he’d had time to reflect and he just took the piss. I felt stupid as he said I was being too serious. I said I’d had a lot of time to think. Basically he asked what my thoughts were and I just said ‘I’m not playing’ and he said ‘okay’. Usually I would have sent another message by now saying sorry but you wouldn’t tell me what your thoughts are so I’m pleased I haven’t done that.

Peaceatlast01 · 05/06/2024 10:48

Yes! @LizaMinnellisFurCoat looking unbothered is key, as that realllly bothers them.

just check out quietly with no drama, as if you couldn’t really care either way, I think me keeping it brief and final helped with this and I’ve retained a bit of control, as bad as that sounds. I’d much rather things end on my terms.

namechangeforthis5 · 05/06/2024 10:57

@Peaceatlast01 i definitely agree with that. In my head it’s over now. Me saying I’m not playing is that. He will come back and when he does I’ll say something like you said earlier

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