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Anybody else desperately trying not to contact a guy?

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FuckSakeGetAGrip · 06/05/2024 12:02

I am, and it's honest to god wrecking me.

Please tell me someone else is struggling too.

I'll hold your hand if you'll hold mine...

OP posts:
namechangeforthis5 · 29/05/2024 08:54

TakeThePain · 28/05/2024 21:12

What do you need distracted from? Can we help? Could with a distraction myself.

Thank you. It’s just whenever life happens I do it. Yesterday someone decided to try to drive round me and scuffed my new car. I was so annoyed but I wanted to text him to make me feel better and stop me worrying about how much worse it could’ve been. Yes would rather you distract me please lol

LizaMinnellisFurCoat · 29/05/2024 09:52

It is hard. But @AnnieSF is right. These are just excuses. Today is a milestone for me. It's 2 and a 1/2 weeks since I last messaged, which is the longest we've ever gone. I did see him at work over the weekend. He was in a small group. I made some short small talk with one of them, didn’t speak to him directly, but didn’t ignore him either. It wasn't awkward. I'm really pleased with myself that I didn't message afterwards and I plan to carry on. Maybe one day a friendship might reestablish, and I still want that, but I'm not going to chase and beg for it. I'm eating and sleeping well, started a new hobby, have plans with my actual friends and family over the next few weeks. I'm going to outgrow this, make myself better and move on. I'm already winning. He was too scared to have an uncomfortable conversation about what he wants and to end things respectfully. I would never do that to someone.

liveinthesticks · 29/05/2024 10:35

Well, my flaky text person has read my message & as expected no reply. That’s fine said what I wanted & it’s closure for me. Not my loss I have proper friends he has nobody.

namechangeforthis5 · 29/05/2024 11:08

Yeah you’re right @LizaMinnellisFurCoat amd this morning I reflected how much better I feel not constantly wondering if he will reply and also not worrying about being found out or being bad to our families because I don’t want to do the dirty on his as well as my own. I would never have done anything like this previously and I won’t go any further now

namechangeforthis5 · 29/05/2024 11:09

*and

wiggywoowoo · 29/05/2024 11:41

Feeling a bit shit today. Special day for him I suppose that's when you realise you are not really part of their lives!

But overall, I few weeks ago I had that heavy chest feeling was really hung up. Definitely feels more manageable now even if a bit up and down.

AnnieSF · 29/05/2024 11:58

LizaMinnellisFurCoat · 29/05/2024 09:52

It is hard. But @AnnieSF is right. These are just excuses. Today is a milestone for me. It's 2 and a 1/2 weeks since I last messaged, which is the longest we've ever gone. I did see him at work over the weekend. He was in a small group. I made some short small talk with one of them, didn’t speak to him directly, but didn’t ignore him either. It wasn't awkward. I'm really pleased with myself that I didn't message afterwards and I plan to carry on. Maybe one day a friendship might reestablish, and I still want that, but I'm not going to chase and beg for it. I'm eating and sleeping well, started a new hobby, have plans with my actual friends and family over the next few weeks. I'm going to outgrow this, make myself better and move on. I'm already winning. He was too scared to have an uncomfortable conversation about what he wants and to end things respectfully. I would never do that to someone.

Well done you!

AnnieSF · 29/05/2024 12:00

Yes we are never part of their real lives - they dictate the when. One time I got a message on a Christmas Eve and it ended with " don't text back" 🙄. It is on their terms always.

drad · 29/05/2024 12:10

So, had a big chat with him. He was mortified that his communication was being interpreted in this way. He said he felt he'd made some improvements and that he wanted me to be really clear if he was pissing me off and that it's important to him to not cause me any anxiety. I said that I thought he was giving me the cold shoulder and that I said I was not free (despite being free) when he suggested meeting because he didn't seem keen and I felt like I was pushing it too much. He was quite upset about this. He said that my reply about this was very abrupt and he felt a bit strange about it. We acknowledged our very obvious chemistry but also acknowledged that I was married and that to move forward we must be open and honest and completely transparent as we really want to navigate through this and genuinely be friends and good work colleagues.

wiggywoowoo · 29/05/2024 13:30

Was that on text @drad ?

drad · 29/05/2024 14:00

In person yesterday

wiggywoowoo · 29/05/2024 14:36

What you gonna do now then?

drad · 29/05/2024 15:33

Not sure. A colleague mentioned to him yesterday that we had very obvious chemistry / liked each other and his response was "yes, but she's married" so think he has boundaries too and don't think either of us are going to push anything.

wiggywoowoo · 29/05/2024 16:48

Sounds sensible. Good that you can have an honest conversation and then call things a day amicably!

drad · 29/05/2024 17:36

Yes it feels good to get it all out

namechangeforthis5 · 29/05/2024 19:07

I’ve read a lot more books lately because I’m putting my phone down more

BeCleverSquid · 29/05/2024 19:47

namechangeforthis5 · 29/05/2024 19:07

I’ve read a lot more books lately because I’m putting my phone down more

This is exactly what am doing

NeedToAskPlease · 29/05/2024 20:13

Another one here currently checking her phone constantly...and knowing before l even look that there will be nothing from him.

Bit of a complicated one...

He is polyamorous. He is currently away for the week with his partner of 3 years... who is also polyamorous and is actually married

I know l shouldn't expect to hear from him as he is with her...but I'm sure she is at least messaging her husband!

We are also not 'partners' as he has told me he doesn't have feelings for me so we're just FWB.

AnnieSF · 29/05/2024 20:34

drad · 29/05/2024 15:33

Not sure. A colleague mentioned to him yesterday that we had very obvious chemistry / liked each other and his response was "yes, but she's married" so think he has boundaries too and don't think either of us are going to push anything.

You don't think ?

AnnieSF · 29/05/2024 20:39

This is one of the best articles I ever read.

natashaadamo.com/does-he-miss-me-does-he-regret-what-he-did/

drad · 29/05/2024 21:02

@AnnieSF I am honestly surprised by the level of honesty and raw feeling that was expressed and it was clear to me that my texting chat and ignoring him at work had caused him some confusion. He was genuinely upset that I told him that I'd not met him despite having been free in the nights that he suggested.
He also emphasised the point that if we forget the miscommunication or misreading of messages then we are really good at communicating one to one. I'm definitely not anxious anymore or looking at my phone but time will tell

Thewookiemustgo · 30/05/2024 00:04

@SleepyRooster I see you. I’m so, so sorry you got so badly hurt. It’s agony. Your post got largely ignored and buried. Did you notice that? I think only one poster stopped to reply to you or even acknowledge the trauma you suffered on discovering a secret chat between your partner and another woman.
Why? Because it’s the inconvenient truth about those on the receiving end of stuff like this. To realise what is actually at risk here for the people they’re cheating on, or helping another man to cheat on, (ruined mental health of those cheated upon, devastated spouses and children, loss of family and friends) would sprinkle the sparkly stuff with guilt and shame, which would spoil the thrill of the obsession and the dopamine hit of the ‘game’.
Game! At one point it was actually referred to as a ‘game’. Jesus wept. The rules of this ‘game’ are actually just playing secretly with other peoples’ lives for an ego boost and a dopamine reward. Expecting their unsuspecting spouses and partners to conveniently stay in the dark whilst they pine after somebody else and allegedly try to sort it all out. They don’t want to lose their marriages or relationships whilst this continues, so their partners and children see what they want them to see, living in a fool’s paradise, (don’t forget the reminder from one helpful poster about secret chat functions which can be locked with Face ID! And from somebody who apparently wanted to stop doing shit like this! Unbelievable) which could implode at any minute, all at their whim.
They think they can’t help it, but they can. They think they can’t stop, but they could. They berate the men they are obsessed with whilst behaving in a similar way themselves. Flip the genders on this thread (ie men writing about mooning about other women and therefore cheating on their wives) and it would be a bloodbath.
I know what limerance is, I know the power of obsession and addiction. I also know of a suicide from crap like this, I also know someone whose teenage child saw the messages. Carnage.
Want a fast way out? The quickest thing to end this crap sadly usually seems to be for somebody to find out. The limerant object and the pining and the hand-wringing over whether they got a text or not atomises in the face of realising that your nonsense caused devastation like that. Nothing usually makes the limerant object and obsessing evaporate faster than being faced with the reality of losing their spouse and family.
To text these cheating men or not to text them is a choice. Maybe it’s a hard choice, a really, really tough choice, but it’s a choice just the same. If you can choose to do something you can choose not to. If you are choosing to text, whilst claiming you want to stop, it’s not because they are charming or magical or soulmates or anything special, it’s because in that moment you don’t actually want to stop. So you don’t. Words are cheap. Actions show you what people really want to do. Until you really, really want to stop this, you won’t.
Be careful that you are not using this thread to enable your obsession rather than try to end it. The sheer number of messages all describing the men, the situations, continuing the sagas, whether they did/ did not reply to texts etc are actually posters enjoying describing the water, not helping those drowning.
If you truly want to support each other out of your obsessions then ban talking about the men themselves here, ban talking about who replied / didn’t etc and talk about the possible alternatives to obsessing and what helped you or might help you stop. But you still really have to want to stop. You could choose to do this on any day, choose to delete, block or just ignore the messages. It’s a choice, you can choose to stop. If you fail then you immediately re-commit to stopping and again, you choose to stop. You keep choosing that every time you fail until you break the limerance and stop. No object, no limerance. Commit fully to stopping the behaviour (some of you clearly haven’t) and each time you are tempted, make yourself do something else. You actually can. Read the AA 12 step programme. It works with any addictive behaviour. Repetition and success will stop the behaviour, as long as you fully commit.
I genuinely pray that none of you get hurt by this, or your poor families. I pray you never have to witness the terrible devastation that the consequences of your current behaviour does to people you claim to love. I genuinely hope it stops for all of you as soon as possible and you learn from this and steer clear in the future.
Believe me, none of this or these feckless men are worth what it could cause you and the people who love you.

wiggywoowoo · 30/05/2024 07:59

Powerful words @Thewookiemustgo.

namechangeforthis5 · 30/05/2024 10:37

@Thewookiemustgo your words made me cry a bit. You’re right. I keep feeling guilty for not texting this guy, not checking in on him but I have to stop for everyone’s sake. I’ve tried stopping the sexual messaging but he brings it back so I’m going to have to take control. Not by telling him as that just leads to drama but just being friendly but to the point and it will stop. I actually do care about the impact on his family and mine and I genuinely thought I’d never be in this situation. You’re right we need to support each other in a different way. The thread has actually helped me stop tbh.

AnnieSF · 30/05/2024 11:03

@Thewookiemustgo is right and has expanded what I said earlier but in a much more eloquent way. People think they are in control, they have changed it to a different level etc. These are all lies we tell ourself! The only time you are EVER in control is when you stop them having the ability to contact you. Cue other lies: I don't want him to think I'm scared of him blah blah. Come on now - be honest.

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