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Am I being OTT? Husband and my best friend…

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Totalfuckingshitshow · 22/04/2024 10:35

I don’t know why I’m doing this thread. Probably because I can’t stomach telling real life people yet. I don’t know if I’m overreacting or underreacting or what. Please can you help me see through it?

A couple of weeks ago, my closest friend came to stay with us. She’s a long-term friend, very close, visits frequently and was my bridesmaid etc.

I got a babysitter and my friend, me and my H went out for a couple of drinks and to meet some other friends in the pub.

After coming home, I went to bed as it was late and my turn to get up with the baby in the morning. My H and friend stayed up listening to music and drinking some more. They went into another separate part of the house so the music didn’t disturb me or the baby. This isn’t unusual and more often than not, I’d be there too or my H wouldn’t.

In the morning, I picked up on a vibe. I just had a feeling. Never had it before. My friend was overly bright. She came back over very early. My husband very quiet. After my friend went home, I asked him outright if something had happened and he said no.

It niggled me for a couple of days and I suddenly recalled there’s external CCTV that covers that portion of the house, after we were burgled. So I viewed it. And I saw, clearly, that my friend approached my husband and put her arms around his neck and he wrapped his arms around her. They stayed like this, then it became dancing, then it became standing with their faces very close together talking, then they kissed albeit relatively brief and not a passionate one, and then they danced some more and then they separated. My H then immediately text me something inane, and probably guilty in hindsight.

The whole thing lasted around six minutes. It looked very intimate and intense. It makes me throw up viewing it.

Afterwards, they both went to bed separately. I’m fairly certain nothing else happened between them.

I have confronted the pair of them. My H claims he was crying about something and she comforted him, and he enjoyed the comfort. He’s very, very shame faced, upset and apologetic. My friend is trying to emotionally manipulate me into getting over it. Both attempted to rewrite it and minimise it until I informed them I’d seen it on CCTV.

I had expected DARVO from the pair of them due to the creepy surveillance aspect, but neither did. I find that telling.

My H is living in a separate part of the house. Complicated lives mean he cannot leave fully currently. I have ended my friendship. I have asked my H for a separation.

The real kicker here is my H, while very fond of my friend, is twitchy when I go out with her alone because she habitually seeks male attention and he feared I might do similar. She’s very beautiful and very clever and men fall at her feet. The hypocrisy of him lapping it up when she sought his attention is keeping me up at night.

I feel utterly sick and so betrayed. I have lost so much weight, I cannot eat and I cannot sleep. I feel I have lost two of the most important people to me.

But am I overreacting to end my marriage over this? They didn’t sleep together, the kiss was relatively brief, we have very small children, very entwined lives and a very long history.

And before anyone comes at me, I’m not holding her more responsible than him. She initiated the initial contact but he went with it. They both kissed each other. He’s married to me. Not her. Nor am I routinely into surveillance. It just suddenly occurred to me we had a camera and it was sheer dumb luck, or misfortune in their case, that they were visible.

Sorry this is long. I’ve not spoken to anyone about it.

OP posts:
JenniferBooth · 23/04/2024 17:46

23 years ago DH gave a colleugue i was working with a lift home and she went in to hug him afterwards. She said "im a touchy feely person" DH replied "well im not so dont" And told me about it when he got home.

alrightluv · 23/04/2024 17:52

JenniferBooth · 23/04/2024 17:46

23 years ago DH gave a colleugue i was working with a lift home and she went in to hug him afterwards. She said "im a touchy feely person" DH replied "well im not so dont" And told me about it when he got home.

Good for him

ExcitedButNervous0424 · 23/04/2024 18:02

An ex-friend of mine slept with her best friend’s fiancé whilst her friend was asleep upstairs.

The two contributing factors were the fact that my ex-friend was insanely selfish and disloyal…..just didn’t give a crap….. and the fact that the guy was a total sleaze and also didn’t give a shit. Neither of them cared at all about how wrong their actions were. They just didn’t care.

The whole situation horrified me.

There are some people out there who don’t think or care about anyone other than themselves.

I think your ‘friend’ and your husband are two of them.

Totalfuckingshitshow · 23/04/2024 20:14

Thanks everyone. Feeling very reflective and very sad tonight. I’ll let you know how I get on when I know what the bloody hell I’m going to do.

OP posts:
Trytobeoptimistic · 23/04/2024 20:19

Totalfuckingshitshow · 23/04/2024 20:14

Thanks everyone. Feeling very reflective and very sad tonight. I’ll let you know how I get on when I know what the bloody hell I’m going to do.

It's a horrible situation for you, entirely not of your making.
Sympathy and best wishes to you.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 23/04/2024 20:20

@Totalfuckingshitshow not the point of your thread but re the PMDD. Have you tried the following as I found it a massive help.
Starflower oil capsules, B6 and Folic acid. Give it two weeks and it will make a huge difference. Starflower gives me mild headaches so I don't take it all the time but even just the others will help balance things out.

wizzywig · 23/04/2024 20:22

So he was always worried about you going out with her incase you cheated? He is fond of her, they drink alone together? He is a rat and so is she

HesterPrincess · 23/04/2024 20:30

I'm so sorry, OP, this is a bad enough thread to read but this is your world.

Take your time with it, and go easy on yourself.

Totalfuckingshitshow · 23/04/2024 20:48

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 23/04/2024 20:20

@Totalfuckingshitshow not the point of your thread but re the PMDD. Have you tried the following as I found it a massive help.
Starflower oil capsules, B6 and Folic acid. Give it two weeks and it will make a huge difference. Starflower gives me mild headaches so I don't take it all the time but even just the others will help balance things out.

Omg. You legend. I’ll try that. I’ve just bought B6. What do you think about just taking starflower during the literal phase? It’s honestly so crippling. Awful.

OP posts:
VividZebra · 24/04/2024 15:18

@Totalfuckingshitshow I hope you're doing ok - I know what an absolute life-sucking nightmare it is to be betrayed, and you're doing it while looking after little children too. Just one piece of advice now that you've wisely binned the ex-friend. Whatever you end up doing to your husband, seeing a lawyer now, without telling him, might be a great move. Family solicitors often offer a free half-hour consultation, confidentially. Also, once you've consulted a firm for the free half hour, they can't represent him in any future divorce. I only started feeling a bit more like me, less gaslit and more powerful, when I saw a solicitor and I wish I'd done it immediately. They can advise. There are men out there who aren't unfaithful cheats who can't be left alone with a drunk woman.

FinkleFlint · 24/04/2024 17:50

VividZebra · 24/04/2024 15:18

@Totalfuckingshitshow I hope you're doing ok - I know what an absolute life-sucking nightmare it is to be betrayed, and you're doing it while looking after little children too. Just one piece of advice now that you've wisely binned the ex-friend. Whatever you end up doing to your husband, seeing a lawyer now, without telling him, might be a great move. Family solicitors often offer a free half-hour consultation, confidentially. Also, once you've consulted a firm for the free half hour, they can't represent him in any future divorce. I only started feeling a bit more like me, less gaslit and more powerful, when I saw a solicitor and I wish I'd done it immediately. They can advise. There are men out there who aren't unfaithful cheats who can't be left alone with a drunk woman.

Could be worth seeing a few of the best ones locally then..!!

Totalfuckingshitshow · 24/04/2024 18:26

Really up and down. Particularly down today. Swinging between sad and apathetic. I haven’t watched the video today but it’s well-entrenched into my brain.

I thought I was entering the anger stage, and I’ve been visiting, but definitely not fully there yet. Just feel like I’m in survival mode. And the sad-music-as-therapy stage.

Will seek advice from/make an appointment with a solicitor this week, just to fact find and feel like I’m doing something.

OP posts:
JenniferBooth · 24/04/2024 18:32

@TotalfuckingshitshowFlowers

How old are you H and "friend" im just wondering

Rania78 · 24/04/2024 18:36

Totalfuckingshitshow · 24/04/2024 18:26

Really up and down. Particularly down today. Swinging between sad and apathetic. I haven’t watched the video today but it’s well-entrenched into my brain.

I thought I was entering the anger stage, and I’ve been visiting, but definitely not fully there yet. Just feel like I’m in survival mode. And the sad-music-as-therapy stage.

Will seek advice from/make an appointment with a solicitor this week, just to fact find and feel like I’m doing something.

So sorry OP. Sending you loads of digital
hugs 🤗
may I ask where is he? I mean does he stay at home?

Totalfuckingshitshow · 24/04/2024 18:37

JenniferBooth · 24/04/2024 18:32

@TotalfuckingshitshowFlowers

How old are you H and "friend" im just wondering

Edited

Early 40s, I’m 30s.

OP posts:
Totalfuckingshitshow · 24/04/2024 18:38

Rania78 · 24/04/2024 18:36

So sorry OP. Sending you loads of digital
hugs 🤗
may I ask where is he? I mean does he stay at home?

He’s living in a separate part of the house. Self contained.

OP posts:
ChaoticCrumble · 24/04/2024 19:02

Big hugs OP. I'd be concerned that he was so worried about your friend being attractive on nights out because he was attracted to her. Doesn't mean something has been going on for years, but maybe he's always wanted it to.

I'd hate it. Not sure how he could make it up to me. I'd want him to try but I'd have to see how I felt :(

BirthdayRainbow · 24/04/2024 19:44

I can feel the sadness for your posts and I'm sure we all wish we could do something to make the pain go. But since he is the pain I think you'll know what to do. Once you're ready.

Secondstart1001 · 24/04/2024 19:45

@Totalfuckingshitshow I think it would be better for your mental health if you stop watching the video. You are torturing yourself and I completely get why you are watching it but it needs to stop, because at the moment you are walking around with an emotional open wound. I’m so sorry to hear how you are telling today but it’s a good plan to go see a good family solictor. Its such a low blow when you’ve just had a baby but it’s oh so common I’m affraid and speak from experience x

Totalfuckingshitshow · 24/04/2024 21:20

Secondstart1001 · 24/04/2024 19:45

@Totalfuckingshitshow I think it would be better for your mental health if you stop watching the video. You are torturing yourself and I completely get why you are watching it but it needs to stop, because at the moment you are walking around with an emotional open wound. I’m so sorry to hear how you are telling today but it’s a good plan to go see a good family solictor. Its such a low blow when you’ve just had a baby but it’s oh so common I’m affraid and speak from experience x

Thank you. I have stopped now. Unfortunately my brain has hung on to its own copy which is likes to play every now and then.

I went for a long drive today just to have a good cry and a think and listen to some music. My baby likes the car and obliged me with a little snooze, too. The children have been good as gold, which I’m grateful for. I’ve not got much in the tank. Managing to eat a bit more though.

Thanks for all the compassion I’ve received. It’s such a kindness for a stranger, especially one who really thought she’d be told she was being a dick for thinking of blowing up her family.

OP posts:
BirthdayRainbow · 24/04/2024 21:23

Your brain doesn't do timings so every time you watch it it will be like you've just seen it for the first time. Try not to see it and if it does play in your head think about what you'd rather be watching. Imagine your babies first steps or when they poured yogurt on their head. Something that will make you smile and feel safe.

BirthdayRainbow · 24/04/2024 21:24

You didn't blow up your family.

Calliopespa · 24/04/2024 21:24

Op has he done anything yet? Tried to reach out?

Beaverbridge · 24/04/2024 21:40

Hope you, re feeling bit better lovely. It's fecking horrendous, been exactly where you are and remember the disbelief and horror. Hope he's grovelling like a good un. 💐.

FinkleFlint · 24/04/2024 21:52

Totalfuckingshitshow · 24/04/2024 21:20

Thank you. I have stopped now. Unfortunately my brain has hung on to its own copy which is likes to play every now and then.

I went for a long drive today just to have a good cry and a think and listen to some music. My baby likes the car and obliged me with a little snooze, too. The children have been good as gold, which I’m grateful for. I’ve not got much in the tank. Managing to eat a bit more though.

Thanks for all the compassion I’ve received. It’s such a kindness for a stranger, especially one who really thought she’d be told she was being a dick for thinking of blowing up her family.

Hope you’re doing ok this eve OP. Doesn’t feel like it now, but you absolutely will feel better, sooner than you think x In the meantime just let yourself feel how you feel and be kind to yourself xx

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