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Husband depressed after birth of our second child ten weeks ago, says I make him want to kill himself

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AmberMoose · 18/04/2024 20:38

My husband is depressed, regrets our baby and told me that I make him want to kill himself. I don't know what to do.

First time posting. Not sure what I'm looking for exactly, perhaps some outsider perspective. My husband (41) and I (38) had our second baby 10 weeks ago. We also have a six year old daughter. Conceiving our second was fraught; I really wanted another baby, he was hot and cold. Two miscarriages, two years of trying etc...

Second baby is significantly harder than our first - lots of crying, up 1000 times at night etc - and my husband is not coping. He has checked out and I feel like I am solo parenting our baby. He says he is depressed (post partum depression perhaps?) and is having a major existential crisis. He is so unhappy with our -admittedly, charmed - life and feels like I've been calling the shots over our ten year relationship.

He's recently gotten really into DJing and one of his main complaints is that he is now a servant to our family and has no time for himself. I've been doing all I can to ensure he has free time - I took both kids out of the house when the baby was just a couple of weeks old to give him space when I was still sore and recovering and just wanted to be on the couch. He has taken several trips away to do various things related to his music, I have looked after the kids without complaint, I ask about how he's feeling, listen to him complain (about me and our life), take on additional life admin tasks to take them off his plate... All things he has expressed in the past make him feel loved and cared for.

Two nights ago when I got home after four days away (with both kids to give him space and free time) he says that the key to him feeling better is that he needs to better compartmentalise all his responsibilities and ensure he has enough time for all of them - i.e., more time. For him to have more free time, I need to exchange mine and I feel I have nomore.to give. I am feeling so much resentment towards him. I have been out of the house only twice by myself; I barely have had enough alone time to blow dry my hair over the past two and a half months. I have never asked for help ( I did once and it sent him on a spiral); not even in the middle of the night when I am so exhausted I feel I am about to crack. Never once have i handed him the baby and bottle and begged for an extra hour of sleep. The few times I have told him how hard it is he has essentially told me that ive gotten what I wanted (a baby) and to suck it up. He takes the baby every now and then for like ten minutes, baby cries, husband is like "urgh, no thank you! This baby is hard work!", never once stopping to reflect on what it's like for me during the other 23h and 50 minutes of the day.

He has said once before that he is becoming suicidal. Last night he raised it again and said .. this is a quote " you are making me want to kill myself". I want to say it's the depression talking and I am trying to be compassionate but I am also furious and trying hard not to be. The worst part is that he's not the first person to say that to me, my mum said something similar when I was like 10 (she had significant trauma that was never dealt with I now know and is generally not ok). This morning he hugged me and said he felt like there was a weight of, I hugged him back and we cried but I am left feeling like total shit - a truly horrible person that makes people want to kill themselves.

I am bouncing from rage to guilt to deep shame and I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
AmberMoose · 19/04/2024 17:11

Myopicglass · 19/04/2024 17:10

Yesterday at 9:11 I linked you to the script - it’s worth reading

Unfortunately I've read it and it hit a bit too close to home

OP posts:
kkloo · 19/04/2024 17:12

AmberMoose · 19/04/2024 17:01

Is there a rational explanation for dh having a female follower on IG, who lives a few cities away, who I've never heard of and whom he followed back (as of a couple of months ago; yes I've had my suspicions) who has also liked a few of his photos and yet when I just checked, is no longer a follower or being followed? I know this looks bad. Its Bad right? Jesus. What a cliche.

Is her account still visible or has she blocked you?

theworldie · 19/04/2024 17:12

AmberMoose · 19/04/2024 17:01

Is there a rational explanation for dh having a female follower on IG, who lives a few cities away, who I've never heard of and whom he followed back (as of a couple of months ago; yes I've had my suspicions) who has also liked a few of his photos and yet when I just checked, is no longer a follower or being followed? I know this looks bad. Its Bad right? Jesus. What a cliche.

Hmm the plot thickens. They really are so transparent these men aren’t they?

Would the city she lives in happen to be the city he was visiting on his “DJ trip”?

My advice is keep your powder dry and do some digging. Or does it even matter at this point? I’d have his bags packed just for being so vile in general.

AmberMoose · 19/04/2024 17:12

kkloo · 19/04/2024 17:12

Is her account still visible or has she blocked you?

It's private

OP posts:
kkloo · 19/04/2024 17:22

AmberMoose · 19/04/2024 17:12

It's private

Oh no I meant could you still see it (even if it's private)....so I assume you still can which means she hasn't blocked you.

Do you remember which pictures of his that she liked? If you do then can you see if it still shows that that she liked them? I think when people block someone on instagram all their likes disappear...so if they're not there that means one of them blocked the other. It used to be that way anyway.

Megifer · 19/04/2024 17:23

Sorry op, I'd say your gut feeling will be spot on here.

It is pretty classic - deflect, be abusive, make it all about him... they get an inflated view of themselves when another woman is on the scene. Hes a walking cliche of an abusive 41 year old boring middle aged man.

Hes not fucking depressed he's trying to make you end it so he's not the bad guy. So he's a coward too.

Honestly get this horrible bastard in the bin.

Icantpaint · 19/04/2024 17:25

I’ve stepped back from mumsnet recently due to its toxicity but today I popped back on and spotted this thread.

awful attitude to male depression (regardless of what’s happening with the op’s husband, the overall vibe is awful)

it’s still fucking toxic on this site

kkloo · 19/04/2024 17:27

Icantpaint · 19/04/2024 17:25

I’ve stepped back from mumsnet recently due to its toxicity but today I popped back on and spotted this thread.

awful attitude to male depression (regardless of what’s happening with the op’s husband, the overall vibe is awful)

it’s still fucking toxic on this site

IT'S NOT MALE DEPRESSION.

It's male abusive behaviour, he just happened to mutter the word depressed.

Megifer · 19/04/2024 17:29

Icantpaint · 19/04/2024 17:25

I’ve stepped back from mumsnet recently due to its toxicity but today I popped back on and spotted this thread.

awful attitude to male depression (regardless of what’s happening with the op’s husband, the overall vibe is awful)

it’s still fucking toxic on this site

Ops husband is a nasty, bullying, abusive useless prick who is also using his alleged MH as a weapon against her.

Also mental health is a serious issue and people with genuine issues need support.

Bye now 👋

kkloo · 19/04/2024 17:31

Daz57 · 19/04/2024 16:07

Well put. I am constantly saddened at how women talk about men on MN. Very little compassion, shocking language towards them and how many of these women have sons? Is that how they would like them to be treated one day?

I would be completely disgusted and ashamed if my son treated his wife this way.

Maybe you should pay more attention to what you're reading on here. Women in general are very concerned when their partners are depressed, and are very supportive and really go out of their way to try to make things better for him.

It is when the men are abusive that the receive responses like this.

CherryPiWithIcecream · 19/04/2024 17:33

It's time for him to be elsewhere. You'll have one less person to take care of and he can concentrate on his dj-ing (eye roll).
He's not there in any meaningful way except for making yours and your children's lives harder anyway.
He seems to want to make everything your fault and taking no responsibility for his own life.

I have sympathy if he does indeed have depression but he needs to grow the fuck up.
I have depression. I've been non-stop depressed for the last 3 years or so and yeah, some days I want to crawl into a hole and stay there (die) and others are slightly better (I don't want to actually die, just stay in bed/cry/sleep).
I also have a child so I NEVER do these things. I do my best to be ok and get through the days.
It's exhausting but I'm an adult who doesn't want to completely fuck up my child.
Get him out. Make him take responsibility for his own mental health and you can concentrate on yours and being a parent.

titchy · 19/04/2024 17:36

Icantpaint · 19/04/2024 17:25

I’ve stepped back from mumsnet recently due to its toxicity but today I popped back on and spotted this thread.

awful attitude to male depression (regardless of what’s happening with the op’s husband, the overall vibe is awful)

it’s still fucking toxic on this site

Yeah maybe check OP's updates...

theworldie · 19/04/2024 17:36

Icantpaint · 19/04/2024 17:25

I’ve stepped back from mumsnet recently due to its toxicity but today I popped back on and spotted this thread.

awful attitude to male depression (regardless of what’s happening with the op’s husband, the overall vibe is awful)

it’s still fucking toxic on this site

You again!

You always “pop” on these threads bemoaning “the poor menz” and defending their abusive behaviour.

Stop it.

CherryPiWithIcecream · 19/04/2024 17:38

Ahhhh. I've just seen the 'other woman' posts.

Yep, he's an abusive, worthless piece of shit.
He doesn't deserve you or your lovely kids.
Possibly this is a part of his depression (if he has it, or maybe its a convenient excuse 🤷) but it's still abusive.
Get him out.

Daz57 · 19/04/2024 17:38

kkloo · 19/04/2024 17:31

I would be completely disgusted and ashamed if my son treated his wife this way.

Maybe you should pay more attention to what you're reading on here. Women in general are very concerned when their partners are depressed, and are very supportive and really go out of their way to try to make things better for him.

It is when the men are abusive that the receive responses like this.

I do pay close attention to the posts on here obviously which is why I wrote my post. A lot of it is very toxic sadly.

kkloo · 19/04/2024 17:46

Daz57 · 19/04/2024 17:38

I do pay close attention to the posts on here obviously which is why I wrote my post. A lot of it is very toxic sadly.

Doesn't seem like it.

Especially since your first contribution on this thread was saying 'well put' to a man who made out we were shaming people with real mental health issues (no we're not) and who said that women have 9 months to get used to having a baby but men have no time...what? and implied that no one goes about things well without 10 years of therapy which is just nonsense.

theworldie · 19/04/2024 17:46

Daz57 · 19/04/2024 17:38

I do pay close attention to the posts on here obviously which is why I wrote my post. A lot of it is very toxic sadly.

Isn’t it funny how the posters who’s writing style/usernames come across very much as being men are the ones defending the OPs dh’s abusive behaviour?

Its almost like they have an agenda isn’t it?🧐

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 19/04/2024 17:46

I don’t believe for a second that he’s depressed. He’s a selfish little shit and cheating. He sounds vile.

DJ ing, nights away from home, telling you he needs more time away. Blaming you (you sound lovely by the way).

I think you know this too. Give him what he wants.

Americano75 · 19/04/2024 17:47

Yeah, looks like he's been laying the groundwork for an exit for a while. Lovely stuff.

Megifer · 19/04/2024 17:47

Daz57 · 19/04/2024 17:38

I do pay close attention to the posts on here obviously which is why I wrote my post. A lot of it is very toxic sadly.

Do you expect women to be sympathetic towards abusers?

user8800 · 19/04/2024 17:49

Mid life crisis/OW

I'm so sorry op x

user8800 · 19/04/2024 17:50

Suicidal people don't go out DJing for weekends and living their best life ffs!

What a bastard

BirthdayRainbow · 19/04/2024 17:51

It sounds like he's had his head turned.

I would be asking him to move out tonight to give you space.

Megifer · 19/04/2024 18:00

theworldie · 19/04/2024 17:46

Isn’t it funny how the posters who’s writing style/usernames come across very much as being men are the ones defending the OPs dh’s abusive behaviour?

Its almost like they have an agenda isn’t it?🧐

Yea but we see through it 👀

Let them crack on its probably the only bit of excitement they'll have this weekend. Unless it's car wash day (what IS that about? My DP bloody loves car wash day 🤣)

Daz57 · 19/04/2024 18:00

Megifer · 19/04/2024 17:47

Do you expect women to be sympathetic towards abusers?

You have no evidence he is an abuser. I think this couple deserves supportive advice which sadly she will not get on MN