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Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 11:40

Help needed. I'm sure my DH is up to something and I need proof.
I can see he's on wassap constantly when I'm at the office, like every 10 minutes.
Every he comes back I can see him in the car on his phone before he comes in so he's probably deleted messages because when I check his phone there's nothing from those times, if they are deleted then there's no getting then back right?

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CheesusWept · 17/04/2024 14:13

Have you checked the archived or locked chat section?
Although, you won’t be able to get into his locked chats if he has them.
If he doesn’t have any locked chats then this won’t show on WhatsApp.

It sounds like he’s completely checked out from you anyway, unfortunately. You’ll drive yourself demented trying to figure out what he’s doing online.

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Letsdocoffee · 17/04/2024 14:15

God I feel you. Iv been there. I discovered my H was back in touch with his OW after we were trying to recover our marriage. I had all her contact details from the initial affair. He was constantly online, I started then check her last seen and online times and I could literally watch the pair of them having a WhatsApp convo. I have thousands of screenshots, I’m talking within the same minute, all day long and not at weekends. After 4 weeks I followed him and found he met her. I deliberately didn’t say anything initially because I knew I needed more time and that he would just use another method and that would then leave me guessing. I really do hope for you there is an explanation. Is there a way you could check his contacts and if there is someone you’re maybe unsure about, store their details in your own phone? I don’t want to make you more suspicious because of my experience but I know the feeling of it eating away at you. The lengths I went to were almost crazy. Sending love and I hope you find out either way xx

Redruby2020 · 17/04/2024 14:16

Seems like he is on there doing something yes, and also maybe he doesn't come out of the app also, so shows as online, even though he isn't active.

Cronchy · 17/04/2024 14:21

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 11:52

Like he's been online about 25 times in the last 4 hours.

In fairness, so have you. Maybe he’s wondering the same thing.
how are you getting anything else done in the day if you’re spending hours staring at WhatsApp and counting how many times he’s online?
I do understand that you want it confirmed, but surely if it’s gotten to this point your marriage needs urgent and drastic work, or it’s over anyway. You’ve found nothing so far, and that hasn’t convinced you he’s faithful, so isn’t that everything you need to know?

Redruby2020 · 17/04/2024 14:21

Have you checked Archives on WhatsApp? My ex bf just kept women he was chatting to under there, I was very slow working it all out. Thinking wow he's so good lol, not got notifications coming through or things looking dodgy.

Shizzo · 17/04/2024 14:26

My exh was always online, from 5am to 2am. And I could see as you couldn't hide last seen back then. He would lie and say he was messaging friends. I was suspicious of 2 women, one the chat history was cleared the only time he let me look, and the second was saved under another friends name so I didn't even open that chat. Anyway, 2 years later I finally found out he had been having affairs with both... This absolutely is a huge red flag. Please don't be naive here.

sanityisamyth · 17/04/2024 14:30

Wassap?

Do you mean WhatsApp?

Takethat4 · 17/04/2024 14:33

Just wanted to say that I have Checked an ex’s phone on whatapp before and found messages to a woman - just sexting.
Was it worth it? No.
Did I forgive? Yep
So pointless me even finding out. We ended eventually due to the actual problems in the relationship

This is what I am saying OP. If you’re going to hack into whatapp, please be prepared to either leave or have a serious think about how you want the dynamics of the marriage to change

Fupoffyagrasshole · 17/04/2024 14:36

If your at this point now where you don't trust him and are looking in his phone and trying to hack into it - then the relationship is doomed! why waste your time on this any more - just split up and move on - i couldn't be dealing with this drama tbh!

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 14:39

Letsdocoffee · 17/04/2024 14:15

God I feel you. Iv been there. I discovered my H was back in touch with his OW after we were trying to recover our marriage. I had all her contact details from the initial affair. He was constantly online, I started then check her last seen and online times and I could literally watch the pair of them having a WhatsApp convo. I have thousands of screenshots, I’m talking within the same minute, all day long and not at weekends. After 4 weeks I followed him and found he met her. I deliberately didn’t say anything initially because I knew I needed more time and that he would just use another method and that would then leave me guessing. I really do hope for you there is an explanation. Is there a way you could check his contacts and if there is someone you’re maybe unsure about, store their details in your own phone? I don’t want to make you more suspicious because of my experience but I know the feeling of it eating away at you. The lengths I went to were almost crazy. Sending love and I hope you find out either way xx

Why didn't I think of this? There is someone I'm suspicious of, so I could add her number to my contacts in WhatsApp and I'd be able to see right?
This is a lovely message thank you

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Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 14:46

So I've added in her details on my contacts however it's not showing last online....so maybe this is disabled?

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DixonD · 17/04/2024 14:48

ScottishShortie · 17/04/2024 14:01

Sorry another thought - he might have them in locked chats which is why you can’t see them but he’s getting simple notifications.

If he has a locked chats folder, you will never find it - if he’s hidden it with a password instead of just leaving it on the main screen where it appears alongside “archived” chats.

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 14:52

Does she have to have me in her contacts too in order for me to see if she's online, because she won't have...

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HelloWorld68 · 17/04/2024 14:54

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 14:46

So I've added in her details on my contacts however it's not showing last online....so maybe this is disabled?

I have disabled my online status and picture if the person isn't in my contacts list. She may have done too.

So you won't see when she's online.

I've been in your position it's hellish. Sadly you're probably right but I know the agony of not having proof,

I eventually got proof, think I had a thread on here about it, about 10 years ago. 16 years of marriage and 2 kids gone! Just like that!

I really feel for you OP. You know if something is going on.

Hellsmells · 17/04/2024 14:54

No, she doesn't. She more than likely has last seen turned off.

Letsdocoffee · 17/04/2024 14:56

It’s worth a try at least, esp if you have someone you are suspicious of. Just bear in mind that they will have to have their WhatsApp settings to “anyone” to see their status rather than contacts only, because you won’t be stored in her phone (I doubt, unless you’re friends too) But good luck, just keep calm and gather the evidence you need if indeed there is any. It could be something innocent but it sounds like you do have a hunch and sometimes you have to trust your gut xx

highlo · 17/04/2024 14:57

There is an option to set it so that only your contacts see your "last online" - you can choose whether everyone/no-one/contacts can see your last online.

Same as photo

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 14:59

No luck as there's no last online showing, it was worth a shot as I have her number...

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inneedofaglowup · 17/04/2024 15:00

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 13:06

Anyone know how I can mark as unread so it would show as that on his phone, I can only seen those he'd read and more then likely deleted.

Unfortunately you can't do this on WhatsApp sorry OP

inneedofaglowup · 17/04/2024 15:02

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 14:52

Does she have to have me in her contacts too in order for me to see if she's online, because she won't have...

Yeh she does

sanityisamyth · 17/04/2024 15:02

Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 14:59

No luck as there's no last online showing, it was worth a shot as I have her number...

Has she already blocked your number? See if someone else has the same from her number on their phone?

highlo · 17/04/2024 15:03

Can you search his contact for her number? See what he has her saved as?

highlo · 17/04/2024 15:03
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Sleepless865 · 17/04/2024 15:04

highlo · 17/04/2024 15:03

Can you search his contact for her number? See what he has her saved as?

I know what he has her saved as, just initials...

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inneedofaglowup · 17/04/2024 15:07

You can lock chats on WhatsApp too. See if there are any locked chats on there. You have to put in a password or secret word to access them though

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