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I’m beyond angry. Just a rant.

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Ihavenamechanged987 · 07/03/2024 13:21

Not sure if relationships is exactly the right place for this but I’m reeling. How could anybody believe this is acceptable!

So guy I’ve known for years and would have said was a friend, albeit one I don’t see often. Both of us have had a rough month so arranged to meet him for drinks tonight with a few other people, strictly platonic. He was aware of this… or so I thought.

Texting earlier to arrange meeting time place etc and he starts to get a bit flirty. I clarify that this is just friends having a drink and a laugh together and nothing else and he agrees but then starts to push it again. Anyway I’ve attached the texts below because I’m speechless and angry.

The gist of the last message which is cut off is him asking if I’m still going! Funnily enough the answer was no with a side of me telling him he’s creepy and rapey. I’ve blocked and will never speak to him again but I’m so angry.

I’m beyond angry. Just a rant.
I’m beyond angry. Just a rant.
I’m beyond angry. Just a rant.
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Lillers · 08/03/2024 09:16

Ihavenamechanged987 · 08/03/2024 08:59

@perplexedbutok yes, I do have three children with my ex husband.
After we divorced I entered a relationship with another man that lasted just shy of two years. I found out I was pregnant around Christmas a few weeks after we broke up and had a termination. The termination wasn’t entirely what I wanted but I had to put my existing children first.

I did say it had been a rough month…

I’m so sorry you’ve felt the need to divulge such personal information because someone can’t understand that even women with children (regardless of their pregnancy status) might want to meet up with friends and become the victim of a creep.

To anyone who isn’t clear on this: ANYONE can become the victim of a stalker. It does not matter if that person is single, has a partner, is divorced, has kids, is pregnant, is young, is old… Creeps be creepin regardless.

Even on this thread alone we’ve heard stories from women who are in relationships and still having to fight off these men.

perplexedbutok · 08/03/2024 09:18

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What the hell is wrong with you? She thought he was a friend, she has known him for years. Are you some sad little incel too who doesn’t think women with children should be allowed out the house or something? Do you think men can never be friends with women?

Ihavenamechanged987 · 08/03/2024 09:22

@perplexedbutok why are you now stalking previous threads I’ve commented on and replying to me on those? It’s a bit strange. Thank you for your help but I don’t think I’ll engage any longer.

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Naunet · 08/03/2024 09:23

Ihavenamechanged987 · 08/03/2024 09:22

@perplexedbutok why are you now stalking previous threads I’ve commented on and replying to me on those? It’s a bit strange. Thank you for your help but I don’t think I’ll engage any longer.

Oh wow, any chance this poster could be the same man? Very weird behaviour.

isthismylifenow · 08/03/2024 09:25

Naunet · 08/03/2024 09:23

Oh wow, any chance this poster could be the same man? Very weird behaviour.

Yes agree. Would not surprise at all if this is "Cuddle Guy".

nightmareXmas · 08/03/2024 09:27

So sorry to hear about the rough time you've had, OP. Take care of yourself, and don't be upset by one unsympathetic poster. The rest of us are firmly in your corner. Very glad to hear that you haven't been contacted again, but I agree with others that it's still worth calling 101 to report it.

betterangels · 08/03/2024 09:30

Ihavenamechanged987 · 08/03/2024 09:22

@perplexedbutok why are you now stalking previous threads I’ve commented on and replying to me on those? It’s a bit strange. Thank you for your help but I don’t think I’ll engage any longer.

That's fucking weird behaviour! What is wrong with people.

Ihavenamechanged987 · 08/03/2024 09:32

I’d really like to think he’s not stalking mumsnet! Mind you the last 24 hours have shown me you never really know!

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pootlin · 08/03/2024 09:37

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Do you think women should go into purdah and not meet friends when they have kids and are pregnant?

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That’s not all you’re “just” doing, though, is it?

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 09:48

This is one of those examples where texting can confuse the dialogue.
I agree saying cuddle sounds odd a bit creepy - but perhaps with hindsight when he texted this, you should have called him and had an old fashioned phone conversation that way you would have been able to address more directly what he wanted from the meet up.

moderate · 08/03/2024 09:49

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 09:48

This is one of those examples where texting can confuse the dialogue.
I agree saying cuddle sounds odd a bit creepy - but perhaps with hindsight when he texted this, you should have called him and had an old fashioned phone conversation that way you would have been able to address more directly what he wanted from the meet up.

Are you kidding me? Did you not read his follow-up messages?!

pootlin · 08/03/2024 09:51

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 09:48

This is one of those examples where texting can confuse the dialogue.
I agree saying cuddle sounds odd a bit creepy - but perhaps with hindsight when he texted this, you should have called him and had an old fashioned phone conversation that way you would have been able to address more directly what he wanted from the meet up.

Are you a man, Chris?

Because telling a woman you're definitely going to get cuddles and then trying to be sheepish saying 'it's a bit too early isn't it' and then saying 'don't even bother' if you're not going to give me cuddles is ALL SEXUAL.

Women aren't thick, you know.

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 09:55

moderate · 08/03/2024 09:49

Are you kidding me? Did you not read his follow-up messages?!

Yes that's what I meant when he first says cuddle at the START
of the conversation! Only going on the fact that OP says he is AN OLD FRIEND who she Has known for years - if she has known him for years and he says that at the start of a text exchange why would she not switch to phone call ?

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 10:10

pootlin · 08/03/2024 09:51

Are you a man, Chris?

Because telling a woman you're definitely going to get cuddles and then trying to be sheepish saying 'it's a bit too early isn't it' and then saying 'don't even bother' if you're not going to give me cuddles is ALL SEXUAL.

Women aren't thick, you know.

No I am a woman - actually I agree with you about the cuddles !!
Let me explain at bit clearer I am not good at explaining myself sometimes
1, OP says he is a friend she has known for years ok.
I take that to
mean she has no reason to be concerned about him in any way.
That's says to me she doesn't see their relationship as anything more than friendship.

  1. He says def getting cuddles
If this was me I would see this as creepy Instead of texting I would have switched to phone call and said what did you mean by that ?
  1. When he is says its a bit too early - she then replies about distance and how long it takes her get there may be OP can clarify this but I thought they talking about early as in the time they were meeting up ? Maybe I am wrong which illustrates what I mean about interpretation of texts !!!
moderate · 08/03/2024 10:18

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 09:55

Yes that's what I meant when he first says cuddle at the START
of the conversation! Only going on the fact that OP says he is AN OLD FRIEND who she Has known for years - if she has known him for years and he says that at the start of a text exchange why would she not switch to phone call ?

But you went on to say "with hintsight you should have called him"...

No, her approach was completely vindicated by his follow-up. Any outcome other than "get him out of your life completely and for ever" was proven to be suboptimal.

moderate · 08/03/2024 10:19

@Chris002 "Instead of texting I would have switched to phone call and said what did you mean by that ?"

She knew exactly what he meant by that, and he proved it in spades. What possible advantage could there have been to doing this over the phone?

FOJN · 08/03/2024 10:23

WTF is wrong with some people on this thread?

OP has been aggressively harassed by a man she thought was a friend after swiftly laying down boundaries when his texting became inappropriate. There is not a single thing about her own conduct to question. The rest of her life is none of our business.

Hope you're OK this morning OP and he continues to leave you alone. I think it is worth reporting to the police in light of the new information about the complaint made by his ex girlfriend but I could understand if his behaviour yesterday has made you wary of escalating things now he's leaving you alone.

pootlin · 08/03/2024 10:23

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 09:55

Yes that's what I meant when he first says cuddle at the START
of the conversation! Only going on the fact that OP says he is AN OLD FRIEND who she Has known for years - if she has known him for years and he says that at the start of a text exchange why would she not switch to phone call ?

Why would she switch to phone calls when someone gets creepy? That will give the pervert even more ammunition.

Springingintolife · 08/03/2024 10:25

I second giving the police the evidence they need about this man.

MimiSunshine · 08/03/2024 10:40

Ihavenamechanged987 · 08/03/2024 08:56

Thank you everyone! This thread honestly kept me sane yesterday!

Just wanted to answer a few questions.

He doesn’t know where I live and I offered to travel closer to him because I didn’t want him knowing the general area where I live. While I’ve never seen him react like this before I know enough about his past relationships to be wary. Also it was closer for everyone else so just worked out better.

Genuinely have known him for years. Haven’t seen him for around two though but kept in touch. Although probably not as much as he’d have liked based on the ‘I was never there for him texts’. Truthfully that was because he was always complaining about women he was seeing or not being able to find anyone through tinder and how women were only interested in him for sex or until he ran out of money. I just can’t listen to that.

Thankfully I’ve heard nothing since that last really nasty message yesterday. If I do hear from him today I’ll log it with 101. I may do it anyway. I found out yesterday evening from a mutual friend that police are already investigating him due to allegations made by his ex. At least if he ever crosses a line in the future I know that there is probably quite a large police file already on him.

I see another poster has commented similar. But please please do report his behaviour and give them the numbers he’s contacting you on. You could really make a difference in another case for another woman.

pootlin · 08/03/2024 10:43

Chris002 · 08/03/2024 10:10

No I am a woman - actually I agree with you about the cuddles !!
Let me explain at bit clearer I am not good at explaining myself sometimes
1, OP says he is a friend she has known for years ok.
I take that to
mean she has no reason to be concerned about him in any way.
That's says to me she doesn't see their relationship as anything more than friendship.

  1. He says def getting cuddles
If this was me I would see this as creepy Instead of texting I would have switched to phone call and said what did you mean by that ?
  1. When he is says its a bit too early - she then replies about distance and how long it takes her get there may be OP can clarify this but I thought they talking about early as in the time they were meeting up ? Maybe I am wrong which illustrates what I mean about interpretation of texts !!!

It's a good thing she did stick to texts because she now has proof for the police.

Your phone call suggestion would have meant no proof, which is maybe what you want.

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/03/2024 10:50

moderate · 08/03/2024 09:10

FWIW, OP, I also hope you report his behaviour irrespective of whether he contacts you again.

I agree. Report.

And keep every one f those texts - you may need them.

SlipperyFish11 · 08/03/2024 10:51

This happened to me and I proceeded to go out against my better judgment. Though he wasn't obvious like this. He raped me. I knew him for years, he walked me down the aisle, my children called him uncle...
I'm sorry this has happened.