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It's all good... until we go up to bed!

523 replies

PinkPanther98 · 17/02/2024 18:56

Hello all,

This is an intimate one but I'm looking for advice on the best way to approach this!

I'm in a new relationship. Mostly he's a gentleman, but the other night when we “went to bed” I really felt used.. what he expected, and for how long for (it was literally hours)!

I really struggle in the moment how to be like hurry the f up 😂 That on top of him wanting me to do most of the work, it got to the point where it wasn't enjoyable for me.

He got the idea how the next night he promised to leave me alone. But I don't want it to have to be all or nothing.

I know he's probably just a man trying to make the most of it, but I feel it's actually taking the mick of how excessive it is not respecting my time or body.

The other thing is now it made me feel.. putting me in “pornstar poses” which I just feel so exposed, and simply doing things I don't like. I guess I like things a certain way but I just ran with it…partly because I don't know how to communicate it, and also don't want to be deemed as lazy/boring/one sided !

I think it wouldn't have been as bad if again he didn't expect it for so long.. then I wouldn't have minded too much to do what he likes to please him for a bit. I like being treated like a lady and I really didn't feel like one! I would go as far as to say I feel a bit violated but that's on me for being at a lost on what to say 😬 please help!

I have found myself at the point of avoiding starting anything to not be put in this position again. It's a shame when outside of sex, we seem to have a good relationship on the whole.

If you've made it this far, thank you for reading and your advice will be appreciated 😊 x

OP posts:
trulyunruly01 · 17/02/2024 23:14

I think you are on the verge of entering into another abusive relationship. I really do.
Get rid, don't try to talk about it, just get rid.
Have you done The Freedom Programme, if not I think you should.
Once you've got rid of him.

PinkPanther98 · 17/02/2024 23:15

LiveLaughCryalot · 17/02/2024 22:44

Course he's older and has kids 🙄 You sound quite vulnerable to me too OP, he has probably noticed this too hence the boundary stomping he's currently doing (booking days off, overnight bag, the behaviour in bed).
Please, do not see him again. Your future will be miserable with this man in it. I am 100% guaranteeing that.

Admittedly this made me face my vulnerabilities. I was in a position I didn't expect from him and I'm left facing something that I'm trying to make better somehow.

I liked to have thought despite being young I had a few experiences under my belt but it's only shown me how much I need to assert my boundaries and simply didn't know how and so trying to do so now. Also a bit frustrating how I feel I am trying to educate a 35yr old man on this!

OP posts:
Catoo · 17/02/2024 23:18

PinkPanther98 · 17/02/2024 23:15

Admittedly this made me face my vulnerabilities. I was in a position I didn't expect from him and I'm left facing something that I'm trying to make better somehow.

I liked to have thought despite being young I had a few experiences under my belt but it's only shown me how much I need to assert my boundaries and simply didn't know how and so trying to do so now. Also a bit frustrating how I feel I am trying to educate a 35yr old man on this!

You don’t need to educate him OP.
He knows and doesn’t care.
Please listen to those of us who are telling you this.

yousexybugger · 17/02/2024 23:18

Yep, text dump then block. Trust me, this one deserves it. 'I'm going to leave things here. Last night showed we are incompatible and was not enjoyable for me. All the best'. Just factual, nothing he can turn on you or deny.

Teenagehorrorbag · 17/02/2024 23:19

I take it you mean he took all that time without coming and having a break? When you are young and in a new relationship then a couple of hours occasionally might be fun - but it should entail two or three sessions with a snooze or a chat or glass of fizz in between. Hours of non-stop action would make anyone's fanjo curl up and die........

Agree with PPs that he has a problem. Whether it's porn or just that he can't quite get there, that's not your problem and you really don't want to be part of it. (After many years of marriage I'm comfortably in the 15 minutes bracket, thank you.....😀).

If you can't discuss it - and make it clear that he is weird and you're not into that - then I think you need to move on..... Sorry.

SwordToFlamethrower · 17/02/2024 23:19

Why arent you having honest and open conversations about sex? If you can't do that or talk about anything important, then you're not compatible.

Catoo · 17/02/2024 23:19

Teq · 17/02/2024 22:18

The more you post about him, the more my stomach turns.

You’re 25, please don’t waste another second of your youth on a man who regards you as nothing more than a series of holes.

Sadly, this 👆

SheepAndSword · 17/02/2024 23:19

I wouldn't think about it much, just finish it. He won't listen anyway.

This gave me the creeps tbh.

justasking111 · 17/02/2024 23:20

JamSandle · 17/02/2024 19:09

I'm so sorry. That sounds horrible. Sounds like another young man whose had his brain pickled by porn.

This in spades

Alwaystired23 · 17/02/2024 23:22

yousexybugger · 17/02/2024 22:13

Don't fuck this man again. Don't send him a gentle winky text or try and change him. He is old enough to know that is not acceptable sexual behaviour, banging away for hours and putting your partner in all sorts of positions without being sure they're really into it which he wasnt because it was the first time. Then 'I'll leave you alone tonight' like he's some big stud animal? Dickhead. This is one of the threads I've read that's made me want to grab the OP the most and persuade them to end their relationship. I really feel that if you broach this he may react badly and put it on you so I would let him know that you don't want to see him again due to his selfish sexual behaviour making you extremely uncomfortable. I've had enough crap short flings with men who have turned out to be idiots just to walk away. You sound gentle and sweet and need someone who won't take advantage of that. Honestly, the right man won't leave you feeling like this.

10000% this.

k1233 · 17/02/2024 23:23

I'm not naive when it comes to sex, but I am unsure on what "pornstar poses" are.

I was struggling a little to understand your issue with duration until you said you only came once. Yeah, get it now.

You're 25, so relatively young. You need to take more control in sex. If you're in a position you don't like, move. I don't allow people to be lazy, they participate actively or I'm out of there.

Lessons I've learnt:

  • if the sex is bad, don't go back. There's no point. Finding your rhythm with a new partner is fine, but boring and unfulfilling shouldn't be repeated.
  • Find positions that work for you and actively get there. Don't wait for him to choose.
  • try new things you're comfortable with. If you don't enjoy them change position. You don't have to stay there.

That's not going to change what's happened. But it'll happen again if you don't look out for yourself.

I set boundaries way before sex. It can tell you a lot about what they'll be like in bed. Your guy already demonstrated that he doesn't ask - he just packed his overnight bag and assumed he'd be staying.

Userxyd · 17/02/2024 23:29

Another vote for straightforward dumping and probably mentioning that you're not sexually compatible- for his and his future dates benefits! If he's otherwise nice then hopefully he'll learn for his next lucky lady and if he's really totally selfish then at least he'll move on from you.
Remember this for your next dates too- don't get into bed with anyone until you're definitely comfortable enough to tell him what you want or to say if you don't like it.

NettleTea · 17/02/2024 23:29

k1233 · 17/02/2024 23:23

I'm not naive when it comes to sex, but I am unsure on what "pornstar poses" are.

I was struggling a little to understand your issue with duration until you said you only came once. Yeah, get it now.

You're 25, so relatively young. You need to take more control in sex. If you're in a position you don't like, move. I don't allow people to be lazy, they participate actively or I'm out of there.

Lessons I've learnt:

  • if the sex is bad, don't go back. There's no point. Finding your rhythm with a new partner is fine, but boring and unfulfilling shouldn't be repeated.
  • Find positions that work for you and actively get there. Don't wait for him to choose.
  • try new things you're comfortable with. If you don't enjoy them change position. You don't have to stay there.

That's not going to change what's happened. But it'll happen again if you don't look out for yourself.

I set boundaries way before sex. It can tell you a lot about what they'll be like in bed. Your guy already demonstrated that he doesn't ask - he just packed his overnight bag and assumed he'd be staying.

I dont think she came once - I think he did a few moments of something which, had he persisted MIGHT have made her come, but he didnt give it more than a few seconds

Ghuunvg · 17/02/2024 23:31

ŴTF are you doing at your age with a man a decade older who can't fuck? Move on, it shouldn't be thus convoluted in your 20s

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/02/2024 23:34

I have always tried to work on things first

There are things you work on. Say he's into morning sex and you like evening sex. Say the angle is a little off. There's small adjustments and things that take some time to perfect. All great.

He's a completely shit lay who didn't bother to spend any time on your pleasure except when it facilitating him getting what he wanted. The man has no pride in his craft FFS. There a great story about The Rock and DJ Khaled. Quote below:

After The Rootot^ tweeted out a link to a recently resurfaced 2015 interview with DJ Khaledd in which the equally hard-working producer revealed that he doesn’t perform oral sex on his wife even though he expects her to because he’s “the king” and there are “different rules for men” Johnson had a little something to say about Khaled’s work ethic.
The Rampage star tweeted out, “Ahem.. clears throat as a man, I take great pride in mastering ALL performances. This is probably a little TMI.. I will now quietly excuse myself from this fun thread.”
The Rock is the version of men you want to look for. "Great pride" note. Not phoning in sex to get his needs met.

Men lurking on here... Be The Rock.

topgirlalways · 17/02/2024 23:35

My DP was similar at first. He would last forever and show off with different position's. He also wanted to play with me lots and just generally caress me whilst watching tv. suppose honeymoon period.

but it really annoyed me. I just wanted to watch tv without something sexual going on all the time. Have sex that didn’t last forever etc. We got on and his personality was great. Sex was also a bit slow paced as if he went faster it ended for him. He always wanted to make sure I was satisfied. But long sex just made me numb.

i had a chat and he said he was enjoying it and wanted it to last longer. We now have good sec that lasts enough time for both of us. But I suppose we gitvto know each other.

tara66 · 17/02/2024 23:35

Well it seems to me that at some stage during this event you were raped.

MyPearlDuck · 17/02/2024 23:39

Hi OP, I’m so glad you have shared this here as all the advice that has come through is so important. I am older now, but have been in similar situations during my early twenties. Now that I’m in a real, long-term relationship with a good man, I look back with despair at some of the situations I accepted and thought were ok back then - but mostly I look back with anger at men who take advantage of young women in this way.

Please know that this man is not the one for you, otherwise this whole conversation would simply not be happening. Please don’t give him any ‘chances’ or try to fix this - this is not what the beginning of a good relationship looks like. You should be having fun and feeling cared for - NEVER EVER feeling used and confused. Please trust yourself and your own feelings, and move on from this relationship. I’m rooting for you!!

chrisfromcardiff · 17/02/2024 23:43

PinkPanther98 · 17/02/2024 18:56

Hello all,

This is an intimate one but I'm looking for advice on the best way to approach this!

I'm in a new relationship. Mostly he's a gentleman, but the other night when we “went to bed” I really felt used.. what he expected, and for how long for (it was literally hours)!

I really struggle in the moment how to be like hurry the f up 😂 That on top of him wanting me to do most of the work, it got to the point where it wasn't enjoyable for me.

He got the idea how the next night he promised to leave me alone. But I don't want it to have to be all or nothing.

I know he's probably just a man trying to make the most of it, but I feel it's actually taking the mick of how excessive it is not respecting my time or body.

The other thing is now it made me feel.. putting me in “pornstar poses” which I just feel so exposed, and simply doing things I don't like. I guess I like things a certain way but I just ran with it…partly because I don't know how to communicate it, and also don't want to be deemed as lazy/boring/one sided !

I think it wouldn't have been as bad if again he didn't expect it for so long.. then I wouldn't have minded too much to do what he likes to please him for a bit. I like being treated like a lady and I really didn't feel like one! I would go as far as to say I feel a bit violated but that's on me for being at a lost on what to say 😬 please help!

I have found myself at the point of avoiding starting anything to not be put in this position again. It's a shame when outside of sex, we seem to have a good relationship on the whole.

If you've made it this far, thank you for reading and your advice will be appreciated 😊 x

Oh my gosh, this guy actually sounds scary. Please don't see him again. You can do so much better.

chrisfromcardiff · 17/02/2024 23:44

PinkPanther98 · 17/02/2024 19:12

I know, I need to open up this convo! Just not quite sure how to go about it.
I can't expect him to know but also on the other hand I would expect a boyfriend to not completely take advantage of the situation

Why do you have to open a convo? Just text him and tell him it's not going to work for you, then block.

chrisfromcardiff · 17/02/2024 23:45

DGPP · 17/02/2024 19:20

I wouldn’t even have the conversation, I’d just bin him. If he asks why, say the sex made you feel like he was trying to reenact porn and that’s not your thing. Next!

this

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 17/02/2024 23:46

neilyoungismyhero · 17/02/2024 20:31

Sounds like he's on the little blue pills to me and taking full advantage of it.
He's treated you like a whore bin him.

This.

I wouldn't bother having a conversation with him.

He wasn't bothered to ask you what you liked before re-enacting porn with you

I would never want that man to touch me again.

chrisfromcardiff · 17/02/2024 23:49

bakewellbride · 17/02/2024 20:53

I'd lose my shit over this completely op. I can't believe you're thinking of sending a vague wishy-washy text with language like 'maybe' and a wink emoji. You should be feeling angry and communicating clearly or better yet ending things. It's unacceptable. Time to raise your bar. I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

totally, totally agree. OP should not go back with this wanker (ha ha!).

Frangipanyoul8r · 17/02/2024 23:50

The very start of a relationship, from the first minute you are intimate, should be about respecting each other and finding out what each other like.

This isn’t something to be worked on. Don’t spend another minute with this guy, he is selfish and disrespectful and he’s already dented your self esteem. You’ve been blindsided by a colossal lack of manners and respect, don’t be hard on yourself, this wasn’t your fault.

chrisfromcardiff · 17/02/2024 23:53

PinkPanther98 · 17/02/2024 21:44

I actually raised this with a friend because he took time off to "help me out" but this wasn't agreed (I was literally just looking for a new car!). He seems to come over, it gets late and then he goes to his car and gets his overnight bag (so he's already preplanned this!)

Yeah I have been trying to keep my eyes open to this but also didn't know if it was my own mind looking into things too much!

Don't let him in the house ever again. Seriously. Text him and tell him it just isn't working for you and then don't open the door if he comes over anyway. Have a friend come over if you think he will react badly. His behavior is so bold I worry for you.