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Horrible row with DH, and I don’t know how to move forwards.

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Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 16:52

DH and I have a three year old and a six month old. The six month old is going through a challenging sort of period where she seems desperate to be on the move but isn’t quite there yet - lots of hair grabbing and grabbing skin on your neck and twisting and squirming. It isn’t her fault but in all honesty spending time with her isn’t particularly enjoyable. The three year old is easier in many ways but is sidelined because the baby is so demanding and he reacts to this.

I have been struggling with DH lately because things feel a bit chaotic. The house is a mess, it feels like we’re treading water.

So to give some context here, we were looking through some photos the other day and I saw a scarf I was wearing and said something like ‘wonder what happened to that.’ DH said it was under the stairs and I said pretty jovially that if he found it he’d get some brownie points. He then completely emptied under the stairs, bringing me the most random stuff - he found the scarf but there are now eleven bags of crap in the corner of the hall. We also unearthed DS’s old pushchair which he doesn’t go in now. This morning, DS was in a silly mood so I suggested he go with DH to put the pushchair in the garage (DH rents a garage in the village) it should have been a ten minute trip at most. Forty five minutes go by and meanwhile I’m dealing with a fussy, irritable baby and I get a photo from DH - he was on the park with DS.

it isn’t that I have an issue with them going to the park: of course I don’t. But what really upset me was the way it’s just assumed he can do what he wants when he wants. We’ve had weeks of this and I got really upset. I feel we aren’t parenting as a team at all, if I try to talk to him about a worry or issue with one of the children he gives me the brush off, anything ‘important’ like potty training and weaning are left to me (and both are going badly!)

The problem is I don’t know how to address it. When I try to talk to him he just gets defensive so how?

OP posts:
Holly60 · 03/02/2024 19:31

If I put myself in your DH's shoes I'd actually be annoyed by your attitude to be honest.

You told him to do a task - he went off to do it. On the way back he stopped and let his DS play at the park.

When he got home he got told off for making a decision that benefitted his son.

Next time it would be nice if he text you early so that you could join him if you wanted but other than that I really don't see the problem.

Iwasafool · 03/02/2024 19:31

Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 19:26

I don’t want to leave her in nursery.

Look. I know I’ve lost my temper and I’m sorry. But please try to understand.

That hour or so DH was out before is a long time with a struggling baby. When there are two adults you can share it a bit. He has her for ten minutes, I have her for ten. I can have lunch, shower, put the washing away.

I don’t really mean I don’t want them but it’s so hard, DS understandably hates me and DD is so so needy.

I do understand it is a really difficult time. I do think you need a break though, sometimes we can't see it ourselves, I know I couldn't. I didn't get any help from DH with my difficult one as he was injured while I was pregnant and was permanently disabled. I didn't even get the comfort of being angry with him as he just couldn't do anything.

Not letting you know where he is is going to wind you up and he needs to understand that but he also needs to understand you need some support.

TempestTost · 03/02/2024 19:31

Dentistlakes · 03/02/2024 19:09

Nothing wrong with him taking the toddler to the park. However, op needs a break and he’s not picking up on that. A break with no baby or toddler. She’s bloody exhausted and probably doesn’t want to have to spell it out for a grown man.

If she wants a break from the baby, which is perfectly reasonable, she needs to tell him. He may not realize and may even think she'd rather stay with the baby and have him take out the more active pre-schooler, who doesn't seem to like her much.

Getting pissed off because your spouse has not read your mind is no way forward. No one likes having that happen to them.

NecessaryNC24 · 03/02/2024 19:31

Yep. So illiterate it's scary Blue.

TwylaSands · 03/02/2024 19:32

You dont want advice though, you want people to agree your dh is shit for taking your ds to the park and being out of the house for 45 mins.

I mean i think he is shit, but not for that. Your anger is mis-focused. He is generally shit.

what stopped you all going out for the rest of the day when he got back? Fractious children are easier when occupied and outside.

if you want together family time, plan it. To the minute. To the task. Be organised and take the lead. Train him up.

Gymmum82 · 03/02/2024 19:32

Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 19:27

And I don’t need a ‘break’ to be honest a break would make it worse. I just need some relief if you like even if that’s DH holding her for fifteen minutes so I can wash my hair.

You do need a break. Even if that break is time away from your baby with your DS to repair your relationship.
What you do not need is ‘family time’ you need time away from that baby. Ideally both children for a significant period of time

Iwasafool · 03/02/2024 19:33

Holly60 · 03/02/2024 19:31

If I put myself in your DH's shoes I'd actually be annoyed by your attitude to be honest.

You told him to do a task - he went off to do it. On the way back he stopped and let his DS play at the park.

When he got home he got told off for making a decision that benefitted his son.

Next time it would be nice if he text you early so that you could join him if you wanted but other than that I really don't see the problem.

You might understand if you had a toddler and a difficult baby. It can feel like the 9th circle of hell at times and it all gets tied up in feeling like you are getting it wrong and it shouldn't feel like this and all sorts of other stuff.

Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 19:33

I don’t want to scream @CalishataFolkart but unfortunately I’m not sure you’re right. I know he’s been pushed aside since I’ve had DD and I haven’t been able to follow the advice to make one to one time for him much. Now whenever I do he just pushes me away.

I am sure the bitch comment will be deleted but I stand by it.

The thing is I’m really not hard work. I’m easygoing as a rule but I’ve had months of this - of fucking off whenever he feels like it. He left to go halfway across the country to pick something up from eBay when he was on paternity leave. I begged him to take her for a while so I could get some sleep and he just kept farting around until it became pointless.

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TeenLifeMum · 03/02/2024 19:33

I do remember being pissed off when dh had a long poo at a really inconvenient time.

dd will get easier. I don’t understand why dh isn’t taking dd at all. She’s breast fed so after a feed, hand her to dh and sit and play with ds. Sometimes divide and conquer is needed when dc are little. I do get it (I had a toddler and twins and you know what? Nobody offers to babysit a toddler and twin babies!)

you need to communicate very clearly rather than waiting for dh to fail.

successismyonlymotherfuckingoptionfailuresnot · 03/02/2024 19:34

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Gazelda · 03/02/2024 19:34

OP, I'd leave this thread now. Can you go take a bath? Or something you'd enjoy or relax you?

Tomorrow is an another day. Try to talk with your DH if you feel you can. Hug your DS. He loves you, I promise.

I also promise you that if you were ever to return to this thread, you'd see with fresh eyes that there are many posters who care and want to offer helpful advice.

And some absolute cowbags, who don't deserve a second thought.

Iwasafool · 03/02/2024 19:35

TempestTost · 03/02/2024 19:31

If she wants a break from the baby, which is perfectly reasonable, she needs to tell him. He may not realize and may even think she'd rather stay with the baby and have him take out the more active pre-schooler, who doesn't seem to like her much.

Getting pissed off because your spouse has not read your mind is no way forward. No one likes having that happen to them.

I don't think it is helpful to say the 3 year old doesn't like his mother. He is little and his world has massively changed and he is taking it out on someone he does love.

AutumnCrow · 03/02/2024 19:35

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Oh give over.

Sounds like the OP has it all to do, all on her shoulders, and the one man - her husband - who needs to step up isn't there for her or his own children.

I'm not surprised she's feeling a tad resentful. I bloody would be, frankly.

Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 19:35

Some posters are lovely and a lot of you have a thanks. I do appreciate it. Sorry, you’re right and it’s easy to get caught up on negativity.

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TwylaSands · 03/02/2024 19:36

Jesus op, you need to speak to your gp. Youre an absolute mess and youll end up a single parent if you dont speak to your gp. The way you speak about your daughter is truly awful. The favouring of the angel boy puts you in the stately homes thread as a topic in the future. Dont get to that. See your gp on monday.

but your dh is still shit. Stop allowing it. Hand him the bloody baby and go for a shower. Hand him the baby and have a rest. Hand him the baby and play with the boy.

Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 19:36

Iwasafool · 03/02/2024 19:35

I don't think it is helpful to say the 3 year old doesn't like his mother. He is little and his world has massively changed and he is taking it out on someone he does love.

That’s indeed a better way of looking at it Smile

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Jbrown76 · 03/02/2024 19:37

Op, please be kind to yourself...it's hard for you ATM. Have you considered you might have pnd? Please don't take this the wrong way X maybe see your GP

TheBayLady · 03/02/2024 19:37

Your DH took your 3 year old to the park and you have a problem with it !

Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 19:38

wtf @TwylaSands

I am genuinely baffled by your post. DD is going through a really difficult patch.

I apparently ruined the royal wedding by crying through it. I have got over this fact although I’m not sure my grandmother did!

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AutumnCrow · 03/02/2024 19:39

Pinkswans · 03/02/2024 19:35

Some posters are lovely and a lot of you have a thanks. I do appreciate it. Sorry, you’re right and it’s easy to get caught up on negativity.

I'm disgusted at the way a lot of posters have posted to you on the Relationships board. Truly.

If they want a bunfight, AIBU is over there >>> (and even that has guidelines fgs).

Edited for daft typo

BirthdayRainbow · 03/02/2024 19:40

@Pinkswans I have sent you a PM.

TeenLifeMum · 03/02/2024 19:40

@Pinkswans my dd was so upset with me after dtds were born. Firstly I had to stay in special care with them and then I brought them home. Trying to engage her I asked her to pass dd3 a rattle - she lobbed it at her 8 day old head 🤦🏻‍♀️
she’s 16 now and adores her sisters but it definitely took a while.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 03/02/2024 19:40

I think when you're not so tired you'll feel so much better.

But - letting your baby cry is different from making her cry. Put her down in a safe space and go to the toilet, have a shower, make a cup of tea and just give yourself five minutes. I know listening to a child cry isn't all that fun, but neither is sitting their fizzing away getting angrier and angrier because you have stuff to so and the baby won't let you.

Put her down. In fact, put her down when DH is home and just pick up your keys and say you're going for a stroll to the corner shop or whatever, clear your head.

Ulysees · 03/02/2024 19:42

I don't understand? So dh won't mind the baby whilst you have a relaxing bath?

Ihavenoclu · 03/02/2024 19:42

@Pinkswans I just want to give you a hug and a glass of wine and take the baby off you for a couple of hours. I understand EXACTLY how you feel.
Am I right in thinking you are default parent at all times 24/7 and does not even get to wee let alone shower or have a cup of tea without bouncing a fusspot of a heavy baby at the same time?

I bet he thinks 'you are at home all day' too?
Asshole (joking, a little)