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When did putting husbands down become a national sport?

241 replies

Kosenrufugirl · 17/01/2024 16:42

I was listening to a mainstream radio station the other day when the DJ publicly reciting a mistake her husband had made recently. She invited other women to join in and a short while later she read out their stories too. I am just wondering... I wouldn't behave like this to a work colleague no matter how much I might be annoyed with their behaviour. I would most certainly not be publicly humuliated like this by anyone without taking it up to the Line Manager. It's disturbing me why this behaviour seems to be acceptable towards husbands and partners. What do others think?

OP posts:
Thecompleteposter · 19/01/2024 13:56

@JadziaD
So you made up the bit about men calling women, 'wifey' I have never seen a man doing an annoying little head tilt. Lots of posts on here about women doing it though. Also as you note this is mainly a site used by women. Bound to be women complaining about men.
Using hyperbolic terms like 'wifey' lessens your credibility. It is similar to the Feminist Board's love of the term 'wimmin'. Never seen it used elsewhere though.

JadziaD · 19/01/2024 14:01

@Thecompleteposter It's kind of mind blowing that this is such a huge issue for you. Feel free to ignore my posts and nitpick on a silly little point to try and deny the fact that lots of men choose to be bad at something and then their female partners take on that task instead. And lots of men do it in a very knowing way with a nod and a wink (no, not necessarily an ACTUAL NOD AND WINK that you could film on camera. I assume most people would know what I mean by this but you seem to be very very literal, so I'm just clarifying it for you).

If you've never seen this happen, brilliant of you. You are either surrounded by all the really good men. Or you're blind. Either way, I'm sure you're much happier as a result.

Thecompleteposter · 19/01/2024 14:06

Do feel free to provide links to examples of men calling women 'wifey' and men doing little head tilts. I have never seen it on here or in real life. I am afraid I think you are using hyperbole to make a point which has back fired because it is simply not true.
I am not blind as you suggest.

PaintedEgg · 19/01/2024 14:39

@Thecompleteposter there are plenty of people who make fun of themselves and compliment their partner for taking care of them. However, I don't think it actually means they don't know how to boil an egg, just that they are happy someone cooks for them and are appreciative of it

5128gap · 19/01/2024 15:13

Thecompleteposter · 19/01/2024 14:06

Do feel free to provide links to examples of men calling women 'wifey' and men doing little head tilts. I have never seen it on here or in real life. I am afraid I think you are using hyperbole to make a point which has back fired because it is simply not true.
I am not blind as you suggest.

PP is using light hyperbole and poetic licence to illistrate her point. As are you when you refer to a point 'back firing'. This is a discussion forum not a court of law, and it would be a dry old business if we could never speak in any way but the literal. Her point is that she has witnessed men delighting in their own domestic ineptitude. The fact they didn't really say 'wifey' is neither here nor there. I'd be surprised if many people took that as PPs key message.

Sweden99 · 19/01/2024 15:26

@5128gap, my impression is that is it the most sexist countries (including the UK) where the man will claim ineptitude but also where it is strongly taboo for women to admit they are not good domestically I thing we see this in MN, where apparently almost every poster is very good domestically.

Boomboom22 · 19/01/2024 23:57

Kosenrufugirl · 19/01/2024 06:55

I am already doing everything I can to discourage my son's misconceptions (that the world is massively screwed against men). I think I am winning this battle. On a separate note, it's one thing to start on anonymous thread on Mumsnet for support and 2nd option. It's a different matter for a well known DJ to publicly shame her husband (also with the underlying message he can't do anything right). Lots of people must know the guy by name. It's no different to putting your spouse down at a dinner party in my opinion. The latter is proper domestic abuse in my opinion. I haven't heard the incident with overinflated tires. I would have reacted to it too. Both incidents are unacceptable in my opinion. Which is why I started the thread (and the poor girl probably didn't know you even meant to check the right pressure before pumping. Just as this husband in question couldn't tell the difference between the shoes)

Wtf? The poor girl? This is basic theory test stuff, possibly even part of the questions at the start of the manual test. If you have a driving licence you know how to put air in the tyres.
I'm starting to think you are just sexist in favour of men.

Boomboom22 · 20/01/2024 00:02

That's it op you've lost it

You are suggesting you send this thread to the radio station you haven't told us about so we haven't even listened to, as feedback, about a show purely based on your op because we can't be allowed to know her name!?

In order for them to send it to their presenter so she can reflect on her inappropriate behaviour in your eyes?

Are you OK?!

Boomboom22 · 20/01/2024 00:06

My husband has me as wifey in his phone. And he winks at people.

I've told him DO NOT DO THAT because he works with teenagers. He totally does not understand and is not winking sexually so I remind him, no winking. It does not always mean friendship or trust.

Total side note there triggered by wifey!

Dantedisciple · 20/01/2024 06:29

MsMando · 17/01/2024 16:56

Talking husbands: because there’s an imbalance of power which means all things, in this case, aren’t equal.

Women have been insulted, humiliated and mocked for centuries as a gender and made to feel very much the “lower” gender. They still are in many countries worldwide.

So men as a gender can afford to be put down a peg or two. They’re not the ones fighting to be seen and heard or taken seriously.

My mother was in charge of our family. My grandmother in charge of hers. My aunt in charge of hers. I can't think of a family I know well, now or in the past, where the woman doesn't wear the trousers.

Perhaps I'm just lucky I come from a tradition of strong women.

Dantedisciple · 20/01/2024 06:31

ImustLearn2Cook · 18/01/2024 06:55

When did putting husbands down become a national sport?

This is news to me. I had no idea. Putting wives down has been an international sport for decades, maybe even centuries. It’s about time men got included in this sport 😁

Finally a post on MN that gives the great light to abusing women. Fantastic let's all take the piss out of women. It's been going on for centuries and there's no need for it to stop.

SmileyClare · 20/01/2024 10:26

Dantedisciple · 20/01/2024 06:29

My mother was in charge of our family. My grandmother in charge of hers. My aunt in charge of hers. I can't think of a family I know well, now or in the past, where the woman doesn't wear the trousers.

Perhaps I'm just lucky I come from a tradition of strong women.

Is this a joke?
“Wearing the trousers” plays directly into misogynistic stereotypes.

When people refer to a power imbalance between the sexes, they’re not referring to who is in “charge” of a family, whatever the fuck that means? Managing the household mental and physical load, I imagine.

Men have been in power for centuries.

kkloo · 21/01/2024 19:21

Kosenrufugirl · 18/01/2024 06:42

Thank you to everyone who contributed. For the reference ... this particular husband of the DJ was instructed to take a pair of shoes to the charity shop. He took the wrong pair by mistake. Maybe he was rushing, maybe he didn't hear the instructions properly, maybe he never listens to the instructions. I appreciate the DJ's frustration. My point is if a colleague at work did the same, I would have found a private space to talk it over and get to the bottom of it. Am I giving too many or too unclear instructions? Is it something in my manner of giving instructions that they find objectionable and therefore choose to ignore me? Did they have other competing tasks on their time? I would also be listening very carefully to their answers to design the way forward. The last thing I would be doing is publicity humiliating my colleague. Why do some women find it difficult to afford the same level of courtesy to your life partner? (I am saying this because a few other women phoned in with their stories which were duly aired). If we are hoping to change the power dynamic between men and women, surely dirt slinging is not the route to take? This radio incident is still bothering me. What do others think?

Edited

I think you're being ridiculous and that women know their husbands better than you do. If they're criticizing them for things like that then most likely there is some kind of pattern of not listening or 'weaponised incompetence'.

I also think it's irrelevant what you'd do if a colleague at work did it because that's a completely different relationship.

I also think that most people have self awareness and would know if they're giving too many or unclear instructions so they wouldn't need to approach it from a maybe I caused the confusion perspective.

I am curious to know if you have any suggestions on how to change the power dynamic between men and women yourself?

Why are you looking at this behaviour in isolation? Yes it's common for women to ridicule husbands for not being able to do x, y and z. The same women are often living in an environment where they get accused of nagging if they ask a man to complete a task he said he was going to do loads of times, that she shouldn't have to ask him to do in the first place et. You're criticizing women for a reaction to their husbands actions.

kkloo · 21/01/2024 19:29

@Kosenrufugirl
Or living in an environment where if a man does anything around the house or with the kids she has to hear "I washed the dishes FOR YOU". "I got the kids ready for bed FOR YOU".
Acting like he's doing her a favour.

The reaction of openly criticising husbands is on the back of a lot of infuriating behaviour that wives are subjected to.

Sweden99 · 21/01/2024 20:24

I have the impression (perhaps wrongly) that MN has become more pro-male in the last ten years or so.

Waitingfordoggo · 21/01/2024 20:28

I take the piss out of my husband gently about things like man flu, inability to multi-task etc. It’s very much tongue in cheek and he joins in (sometimes he even starts it). Equally he sometimes pretends he thinks I can’t drive or take the bins out. It’s all done with a hefty dose of irony in our case.

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