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Well that can only mean one thing, can't it

375 replies

furbys · 02/01/2024 20:40

Married, two kids, still on maternity leave with the second. I thought we were good.

On Sunday I saw a WhatsApp message on my husbands phone, number saved as a boys name, picture very much a woman, no previous texts just one message from my husband saying "Furbys will be in with the baby asleep by 9.30. Don't text before then. I promise I'll phone tonight xxx"

Total fluke that I saw it, the baby had grabbed his phone when he was on his play mat and it was open on that message. I somehow instantly knew exactly what I'd just read and clicked off when I heard my husband coming back into the room. He snatched it off the mat so quickly. I didn't have a chance to check his phone again for days as he hasn't had it out his sight but he did today and I checked and the message isn't there now.

Well thats fucking that then isn't it? I've said nothing, to be honest I'm trying to not even think about it, but I know what I've found Sad

OP posts:
DidiAskYouThough · 03/01/2024 14:00

XMissPlacedX · 02/01/2024 22:19

You don't need to tell him you know op, you could just take the ball out of his court and say you want to end the relationship as you don't love him anymore. That would pull the rug from under the cheating bastard.

Exactly. The posts describing how to humiliate yourself by snooping on the adulterer would just be a waste of OPs time.
Once you’ve seen a solicitor, tell the man you no longer find him attractive and the marriage is over. He will parent his kids 50/50, so email you to discuss the contact schedule. When he blusters or tries to argue, just wrinkle your nose and repeat you cannot be married to a man you’re not attracted to.

retinolalcohol · 03/01/2024 14:18

OP, when you confront him and he concocts some convoluted story about what you saw - it was regarding a gift for you, she's just a friend but he knew you'd overreact hence the secrecy, etc etc.

Occam's razor - the simplest explanation is preferable to a more complex one. He's far more likely to be cheating and lying to you than some far fetched story.

C1N1C · 03/01/2024 14:22

Echoing the above. You don't know the stage it's at... could just be the casual flirting stage, or many months in. As you said OP, if it can be considered, it's probably already past the point of no return.

If this were me, I'd probably do one final test... just leave your phone somewhere and ask for his. Something simple like booking theatre tickets or looking up train tickets to see a friend. Ask when he has his phone, ideally when he's put it down so he can't say 'give me a minute' (time to delete the messages). His response will tell you everything.

MarkWithaC · 03/01/2024 16:17

Forget drowning his phone or asking to borrow it to see his reaction.
Be the bigger person.
Just say 'I saw your message to Andy' and wait. Then take it from there.

momtoboys · 03/01/2024 16:51

I'm sorry.

SusanKennedyshouldLTB · 03/01/2024 17:01

iontheprize · 02/01/2024 21:25

get accounts in order before any confrontation

This. He doesnt need to know you know.

oakleaffy · 03/01/2024 17:30

furbys · 02/01/2024 20:49

I don't know what to do. I want him to have the balls to say it to my face. He's said himself so many times that he doesn't understand why people would cheat, surely the second you're so much as tempted that's when you know it's over and you'd just end it. The absolute hypocrite.

He acted put out when I said I wasn't staying up for the countdown, the baby isn't sleeping well and I'd said I'd go in with them and try and get a bit more sleep because I'm running on empty. He acts put out to me then goes and tells some other bloody woman yay she's going to bed early I promise I'll phone you.

I'm so angry.

@furbys My husband was just the same- So say horrified by men he knew who cheated and would say how awful it was…..

Then he did exactly the same thing…,

I’m so sorry

Your poor child/ren too.

It’s just all so emotionally exhausting.

Whyyoulyingfor · 03/01/2024 17:35

DaftFlerken · 03/01/2024 11:17

It doesn't look good but could it be his Mother or Sister?

I’m sure she knows what her mother in law or sister in law looks like! Why would they need to be saved under a male name?! and why would he need his partner to go to bed to ring either?! Perplexed by your contribution.

DinkyW · 03/01/2024 17:38

Don’t say anything to him.

Call the number and introduce yourself and then sit back and wait to see what happens.

You deserve so much more than this behaviour from him.

Kommm · 03/01/2024 18:34

Whyyoulyingfor · 03/01/2024 17:35

I’m sure she knows what her mother in law or sister in law looks like! Why would they need to be saved under a male name?! and why would he need his partner to go to bed to ring either?! Perplexed by your contribution.

And why would he need to leave the house to call them?

3ornotto3 · 03/01/2024 18:38

LolaLaLaLou · 02/01/2024 20:43

I'm so sorry 😟what a bastard!

This will most likely go one of two ways - he'll be full of remorse or he'll try to convince you that you imagined it.

Put you and your baby first, get your ducks in a row and decide what you want to do before facing it with him would be my advice ❤

Agree with all of this!

slore · 03/01/2024 18:54

HarrietTheFireStarter · 03/01/2024 01:30

Crikey, how many posters are going to trot out the ducks in a row cliché? What does it even mean?

OP literally just saw a message, she is hardly ready to separate bank accounts/engage a solicitor etc.

Why are you so offended by the phrase "get your ducks in a row"? Do you literally not know what it means?

It means get yourself organised and prepared. It's solid advice for anybody potentially facing the turmoil and vulnerability of a separation.

There are a whole lot of things you can do to protect yourself and your finances, the example I gave was to sort out any joint accounts. There are endless stories on Mumsnet of men clearing out joint accounts the moment separation is threatened, leaving their partner (and usually mother of their children) penniless.

Also, preparing for the future, such as organising childcare, housing, support from friends and family, or getting work sorted out, etc - sorting out these things ahead of time can make a split easier and smoother for a future single mum.

2024BigWhoop · 03/01/2024 19:02

slore · 03/01/2024 18:54

Why are you so offended by the phrase "get your ducks in a row"? Do you literally not know what it means?

It means get yourself organised and prepared. It's solid advice for anybody potentially facing the turmoil and vulnerability of a separation.

There are a whole lot of things you can do to protect yourself and your finances, the example I gave was to sort out any joint accounts. There are endless stories on Mumsnet of men clearing out joint accounts the moment separation is threatened, leaving their partner (and usually mother of their children) penniless.

Also, preparing for the future, such as organising childcare, housing, support from friends and family, or getting work sorted out, etc - sorting out these things ahead of time can make a split easier and smoother for a future single mum.

But genuinely, how can a woman simply pretend she doesn’t know her husband is having an affair whilst she does all this?

What does she do when he next comes up to her and goes to kiss her? Or when he next initiates sex?

Just go along with it?

Surely a woman can’t act as though
nothing has changed for weeks/months and act completely normal with her partner?

furbys · 03/01/2024 19:13

He's gone to stay at his brothers. Instead of showing any remorse he's just doubling down and getting defensive and making ridiculous claims about him getting the house, he will fight for full custody and not going down without a fight. I just calmly said that my interest is in an arrangement that works best for the children but if he wants to use them as a weapon it'll be his loss in the long run. He didn't deny a thing, just got vicious.

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Changingtides1234 · 03/01/2024 19:17

I am sorry to hear this op.

Cynical85 · 03/01/2024 19:18

@furbys you know the Script!

He is an awful man and I'm so sorry you have to go through this, but it's for the best.

Silly man, thinking he'll get full custody and the house because he says so.

Because he wanted to keep his family but have his fun on the side.

You deserve so much better which I know you know!

Vegandiva · 03/01/2024 19:19

Good for you for standing firm and staying calm in the face of his histrionics. Are you relieved he is gone?
Virtual hug Flowers

DragonMama3 · 03/01/2024 19:20

furbys · 03/01/2024 19:13

He's gone to stay at his brothers. Instead of showing any remorse he's just doubling down and getting defensive and making ridiculous claims about him getting the house, he will fight for full custody and not going down without a fight. I just calmly said that my interest is in an arrangement that works best for the children but if he wants to use them as a weapon it'll be his loss in the long run. He didn't deny a thing, just got vicious.

Are you married OP? I think you are but thought I'd ask again.

He won't get full custody. He won't get the house either...

I am truly sorry but you are worth so much more. xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 03/01/2024 19:21

Aww, honey. You really need to tell him what you read!! You have no other options!!. Forget all the "ducks in a row"shit. You need to have a big people conversation about this. You both have 2 dc to consider. (albeit, he is jeopardising this family life)
Do not ignore, you have your own self worth to consider!!

MissHarrietBede · 03/01/2024 19:22

He is a cornered rat now, lashing out.. Any more of his full custody talk, say yes, great, wow all the freedom I will have!

They never mean it.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 03/01/2024 19:23

Vile man.

Don't let him scaremonger you. Keep your cool head, and get legal advice, you can get free 30min consultations, you can have at different practices until you find the best solicitor for you.

You'll be so much better off without this horrible man in your home. Don't you worry, you'll be absolutely fine.

DragonMama3 · 03/01/2024 19:26

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 03/01/2024 19:21

Aww, honey. You really need to tell him what you read!! You have no other options!!. Forget all the "ducks in a row"shit. You need to have a big people conversation about this. You both have 2 dc to consider. (albeit, he is jeopardising this family life)
Do not ignore, you have your own self worth to consider!!

She needs a decent qualified solicitor in her jurisdiction. She should also apply for child maintenance

Catoo · 03/01/2024 19:26

It will get better OP.
He won’t get the house and DC. They always threaten this.
Get some good legal advice and take it one step at a time.

What an absolute arsehole he is.
💐

DragonMama3 · 03/01/2024 19:28

MarkWithaC · 03/01/2024 16:17

Forget drowning his phone or asking to borrow it to see his reaction.
Be the bigger person.
Just say 'I saw your message to Andy' and wait. Then take it from there.

The baby knocked it into the sink??