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If you travelled 3 hours to visit relatives ...

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Xmasgingerperson · 26/11/2023 15:01

would you expect a biscuit with your cup of tea? I ask because we did this recently and thankfully we had taken something along as well as loads of presents.

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ilovepixie · 26/11/2023 22:57

Always offer biscuits, buns, cake with a cuppa. But then I live in Northern Ireland where it's the law to offer food with a cuppa! My granny put out sandwiches, breads, cakes and biscuits with tea. You never left her house hungry.

harerunner · 26/11/2023 23:01

Eve223 · 26/11/2023 18:25

This reminds me of an old friend I used to drive to see. Only 30 minutes drive each way, but not once did she ever offer me even a drink although one time was quite happy to declare that she wanted curry, so placed an order and I drove to collect it.

Another time she even said she'd forgotten I was coming.

Always had to pay for her on nights out even though she could afford to spend hundreds at the hairdresseers, on new furniture and once refused to pay back some money I had lent her, as she "needs the money more than I do".

Why... just why did you allow yourself to be treated like this?! Do you generally let people walked their shit covered boots all over you?

user1477391263 · 26/11/2023 23:23

burnoutbabe · 26/11/2023 19:49

I am glad I live in London and people don't ever "call in"

Sone prophet nay come and stay so I'd check what cereals they like and what meal they are here for.

But I still wouldn't ever automatically think "this also needs biscuits"

Maybe I am not womaning correctly? Do men always offer biscuits? Or whip up a cake?

I don’t know what men tend to do when another man calls on them, but I visited a couple of male friends at their homes over the summer and both made tea or coffee and offered biscuits.

user1477391263 · 26/11/2023 23:26

I don’t always have biscuits in the house but I’d get some cake in or make some if I was expecting someone to call. If I’d forgotten, I’d offer to make toast with something or sandwiches, cut up some fruit etc.

SwordToFlamethrower · 27/11/2023 00:01

I don't buy biscuits so I'd fail to meet your expectations.

I would prepare a meal though.

CurlewKate · 27/11/2023 04:08

I'm half Irish half Italian. Nobody leaves my house unfed...

Differentstarts · 27/11/2023 06:56

harerunner · 26/11/2023 22:51

@Differentstarts

And where do you live? Are you in the UK? Have you lived your whole life in a particularly rough area, without any civility or manners?

I live in england and yes it's a deprived area

Differentstarts · 27/11/2023 06:58

harerunner · 26/11/2023 22:42

@Differentstarts

So you're so anti-social that you don't want to encourage people to visit, and yet your house is such a revolving door of visitors that you'd be bankrupt if you offered them all biscuits!?! 🤔🤣

That's pretty accurate. But people come to see the kids

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/11/2023 08:05

Differentstarts · 26/11/2023 21:17

If I bought a box of chocolates for visitors they'd be gone before anyone came. Chocolates and biscuits don't last long in my house, which is why I don't buy them

Well learn some self restraint or go to the shop literally before they arrive. Your inability to restrain yourself doesn’t justify you being rude to guests by not offering them something.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/11/2023 08:06

SwordToFlamethrower · 27/11/2023 00:01

I don't buy biscuits so I'd fail to meet your expectations.

I would prepare a meal though.

Then you would be fine, it’s about offering something not necessarily a biscuit. Biscuits are just easy so least someone can do if they don’t want to go to more effort:

Charles11 · 27/11/2023 08:06

I'm disorganised and we don't eat biscuits. When dc were younger, I'd often have people just pop over. It would get so stressful as I'd never have anything in and would have to go to the shops with small dc etc so I learned to have cookie dough in the freezer.
10 minutes on a baking tray and people thought I'd gone to so much trouble. Godsend.

burnoutbabe · 27/11/2023 08:35

I imagine though those of us who don't get biscuits in for guests, would have already established that:

The guest was arriving at 1 but had already had lunch.

And wanted to leave before tea time.

Ie they really didn't want to eat at our house and were avoiding that for sone reason (I'd assume eating disorder/issues and wanted to control their diet, as other reasons like unclean house or me having no cash to provide food don't apply)

So I'd overall assume food was an issue for this particular guest and avoid the topic or offering anything beyond tea/coffee.

Overall it's a weird visit, deliberately avoiding meal times for unspecified reasons.

ColleenDonaghy · 27/11/2023 08:48

user1477391263 · 26/11/2023 23:23

I don’t know what men tend to do when another man calls on them, but I visited a couple of male friends at their homes over the summer and both made tea or coffee and offered biscuits.

Unisex here too, ever since student age. The men tend to put out bigger portions than the women, that's the only difference I'd notice!

In one house as soon as the doorbell rings, he starts making pizzas.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 27/11/2023 08:50

In one house as soon as the doorbell rings, he starts making pizzas.
Halloween GrinHalloween Grin I take it that's someone from the Italian side of your family, @ColleenDonaghy! Love it!

ColleenDonaghy · 27/11/2023 08:52

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 27/11/2023 08:50

In one house as soon as the doorbell rings, he starts making pizzas.
Halloween GrinHalloween Grin I take it that's someone from the Italian side of your family, @ColleenDonaghy! Love it!

None! Irish friends. It's their go to easy catering, they keep bases in the freezer and sauce and mozzarella in the fridge. It's a very nice house to visit Grin

gannett · 27/11/2023 08:52

I don't understand how so few people manage to communicate beforehand. If I was either driving for 3 hours to visit, or hosting people who had driven for 3 hours, the number one thing to sort is whether they're coming for a meal or not. I'd assume they were but if circumstances meant this wasn't the case I'd then arrange what kind of refreshments they would like.

TinkerTiger · 27/11/2023 10:01

Purplerain0505 · 26/11/2023 16:06

This thread is bizarre. Why are you making a fuss over a biscuit? I don’t remember the last time I even bought a pack.

It isn't about a biscuit though. It's about being offered nothing to eat. The biscuit is an example of the barest minimum that should be offered, and not even that was.

I'm sure if you have guests you offer them something, if not biscuits

TinkerTiger · 27/11/2023 10:03

UsingChangeofName · 26/11/2023 16:16

See above about the posters who've said 'depends on context' and 'did you discuss food beforehand' and 'I wouldn't want to fill up on biscuits' (the host should offer, guests can refuse if they don't want to 'fill up on biscuits')
etc etc

Only on MN, honestly

Sorry if the point being made was too subtle for you. The point is, biscuits isn't the issue here. If you have family driving 3 hours to see you, then you provide them with a meal.

The 'it depends' is allowing for the drip feed that this family member has just had her new born triplets come out of NICU the day before, as you tend to get big drip feeds when posters post an out of context question like this. If that were the case, then I wouldn't be worried they hadn't gone to the shop to buy me some biscuits. But, in all normal circumstances, then they should be providing a meal, not a packet of biscuits.

Omg thank you. Mumsnetters are so literal. 'I don't have biscuits' the point is would you just sit and stare at guests that have travelled hours to see you, or would you offer them something edible? 🙄

TinkerTiger · 27/11/2023 10:10

No I genuinely find this so odd I don't have a biscuit tin. I wouldn't plate up a biscuit as that's weird and I don't understand why when someone enters your home you would give them a pack of biscuits just like I wouldn't hand someone a loaf of bread. A drink absolutely, a meal if they come at meal time and want food but a snack for an adult is strange to me

How do you serve the food, I find it so confusing? Do you pass the pot around or just throw it at them as they walk through the door? Generally baffled.

And Mumsnet is meant to be the place where the majority of posters earn 6 figure salaries Grin yeah right

Xmasgingerperson · 27/11/2023 10:20

Differentstarts · 27/11/2023 06:56

I live in england and yes it's a deprived area

The funny thing is that generosity is usually greater in deprived areas. I come from an area of generational unemployment and deprivation and it is exactly those people who rally round each other.

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SD1978 · 27/11/2023 10:23

Biscuits and other nibbles. I would assume I wasn't welcome if all I got was a scabby cup of tea after a three hour drive, and for a,four hour visit. Rude as hell

Xmasgingerperson · 27/11/2023 10:25

burnoutbabe · 27/11/2023 08:35

I imagine though those of us who don't get biscuits in for guests, would have already established that:

The guest was arriving at 1 but had already had lunch.

And wanted to leave before tea time.

Ie they really didn't want to eat at our house and were avoiding that for sone reason (I'd assume eating disorder/issues and wanted to control their diet, as other reasons like unclean house or me having no cash to provide food don't apply)

So I'd overall assume food was an issue for this particular guest and avoid the topic or offering anything beyond tea/coffee.

Overall it's a weird visit, deliberately avoiding meal times for unspecified reasons.

Don't be silly and extreme - we were not expecting lunch or tea. I'm not going to state " we will want tea and biscuits" when it is imo normal behaviour. I obviously know now that for many it's something they would never think about. I'm thankful that I grew up in such a different way. Even my stingiest Grandmother would give you biscuits😂

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ChristmasPuddingFace · 27/11/2023 10:40

If you arrived at 1pm, the family would think you'd had lunch.

Had you? Where on the 3 hour trip did you stop and eat?

Why did they not offer lunch if you were arriving at that time of the day?

There's so much here that we don't know.

We don't buy biscuits. If someone is coming and they might be around for a cup of tea, I would buy biscuits BUT on many occasions they are refused on the basis of 'trying not to' (ie losing weight, being healthier.)

On the other hand if someone was arriving around 1pm, after 3 hours on the road, I'd pretty much insist on providing lunch!

TBH that's the odd bit- arriving then and presumably you ate en route at services or in the car?

Yes?

Differentstarts · 27/11/2023 12:39

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/11/2023 08:05

Well learn some self restraint or go to the shop literally before they arrive. Your inability to restrain yourself doesn’t justify you being rude to guests by not offering them something.

I have no self restraint which is why I don't have junk food in the house. I don't always know when guests are coming so can't go to the shop beforehand. If its a planned visit around a meal time or evening drinks then food would be discussed beforehand like a takeaway or a meal. If an adult can't go an hour or 2 between meals without a snack there's something wrong

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/11/2023 12:48

Differentstarts · 27/11/2023 12:39

I have no self restraint which is why I don't have junk food in the house. I don't always know when guests are coming so can't go to the shop beforehand. If its a planned visit around a meal time or evening drinks then food would be discussed beforehand like a takeaway or a meal. If an adult can't go an hour or 2 between meals without a snack there's something wrong

If someone drops by unexpected then it’s fair enough not to have anything to give them and they can’t expect it. Planned visits are different.

In this case it was a 5 hour visit not just an hour or two. whilst not over a mealtime I don’t think offering something mid afternoon would be strange and there’s isn’t something wrong with someone not being able to go 5 or more hours without wanting a snack.

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