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Friends Will Disown Me if I Date Him Again

267 replies

Moohana86 · 03/10/2023 13:23

Hi All

This is my first time posting on MN and I was apprehensive about it but here goes.

Im 37, never been married. Was engaged once but it wasn’t meant to be. No kids. I have had lots of involvement with my nieces and nephews though which is great.
Anyway I was dating a guy for nearly two years. He’s now 45 and divorced, one son who is nearly 20 but at university and doesn’t see him much.
I broke it off close on a year ago and just staying single. We never lived together but I spent a lot of time with him. He is a half hour drive away.
My mates can’t stand him because yes he’s very well educated and smart and sensible and a good business brain on him
but he’s always right. He’s a my way or highway guy and very stubborn. He doesn’t like doing anything that involves my friends or their partners. He’s quite judgmental and opinionated and kind of a snob only wanting to keep to his circle which is very small. He’s not a big social person at all. He has made comments that friends of mine are dumb as dog shit or gutter trash or beneath him. He criticises some of my family. He criticises me for a lot of things and would get frustrated that I wasnt listening to him on areas I need to change. He dislikes my nieces and nephews being around if he’s with me and has zero patience or interest in them. He criticises my work and compares my income to his and how many hours he works. He is very impatient and gets snappy fast and can let loose with verbal abuse of swearing at me and running me down which he won’t apologise for as it’s my fault apparently. He’s not the type to go out his comfort zone or compromise and doesn’t have a romantic bone. In the near 2 years there were no flowers or gifts or dinners. He is more a practical man.
We were arguing a lot and I felt like he was more critical of me than supportive and if I wasn’t valued I should leave.
He does have his good points and we had fun times the two of us. I guess a big part of me misses him. He wanted to keep in comms and we’ve talked a bit since the split. He’s been telling me he wants to give it another go. He said it’s not exactly me that he was frustrated with before, it’s more the people around me that annoy him
and he felt I should make better choices with who I am friends with and not look after my nieces and nephew so often.
Well - I’m torn between what I want to do but the biggest issue for me is literally all my friends as well as my sister are against me dating him again and several friends said they won’t hang out with me if he’s back in my life because he’s no good for me and they hated seeing me upset from the arguments with him plus knowing how cynical he is about them and others.
A few people think he is controlling and wants to isolate me from family and friends.
I’d be interested in outsiders opinions

OP posts:
WallaceinAnderland · 03/10/2023 13:40

Whoah, your bar is on the ground OP. You have nice friends though.

Deadringer · 03/10/2023 13:41

He has one thing going for him, he is honest. He is an arsehole and he has made it clear that if you give him another chance he will continue to be an arsehole.

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/10/2023 13:41

It’s really sad you’re even considering it.

Don’t you want to be happy, to feel loved, respected, admired, cherished by the person you choose to spend your time with?

There are other better men in the world. And being single is infinitely better than wasting your life with someone who by your own admission is a nasty judgemental bully who makes you sad.

Work on loving yourself before thinking about dating anyone again.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 03/10/2023 13:41

He sounds exhausting and not worth the hassle.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 03/10/2023 13:42

A few people think he is controlling and wants to isolate me from family and friends

This absolutely screams out from what you’ve said tbh

And if he thinks all your friends are beneath him and all your family are beneath him do you really think he has high respect for you?

IncompleteSenten · 03/10/2023 13:42

Bloody hell. How desperate would a person need to be to even consider giving this sack of red flag village bunting a second chance?!

Malificent1 · 03/10/2023 13:43

Your friends are right. He is controlling and he is trying to isolate you.

AFieldGuideToTrees · 03/10/2023 13:44

You're torn?!?!?!?!?!?!

He's rude, dismissive, opinionated, critical, abusive, controlling, selfish, judgemental, snobbish, barely sees his son, doesn't like you seeing your family, thinks your friends are beneath him, and on and on and on.

Your friends must think you've lost your mind.

GilbertMarkham · 03/10/2023 13:44

He’s been telling me he wants to give it another go

Of course he does ..... Very very few people would put up with half of that shit that you outlined.

And no wonder your friends dislike him.

He thinks he's better than everybody and looks down on everybody, doesn't he?

He's now saying it's not you, just your friends and family .... But when you were with him he was slagging you off and putting you down and verbally abusing you too.
I'd put money on him doing that again sooner or later.

Just no.

Oh and 37 is not too late to have kids of your own.
Try and find a non abuser if you'd like them, which is not him.

DancerForMoney · 03/10/2023 13:45

If your friends have said that l imagine there's a lot more he's done than be critical. I have only heard people say this to others when physical abuse is involved.

AlohaRose · 03/10/2023 13:46

I’m not willing to give up my friends and family at all. Never said that. I said I’ve been on the fence with giving him another try but my friends are totally anti.
So how exactly would resuming a relationship with this man work out then? He will only be happy if you are completely isolated from your family, friends and not helping them out anymore.

He does have his good points
Do share some of them! Because all you have said so far paints him as a vile, sweary, misogynistic bully.

littlebopeepp234 · 03/10/2023 13:46

Well first of all - I’m not surprised he’s divorced if that’s how he behaves!!!

second - you say he is well educated, smart and sensible with a good business brain on him! Actually well educated business people don’t go around calling other people names.

Third - his way or the high way attitude is the attitude of an extremely selfish, self centred, nasty, narcissistic person.

There are so many red flags here op! He is an abusive arse hole and once he’s cut you off from your friends and caused a divide, he will then start on you and start calling you names!

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 03/10/2023 13:46

Of course he tells you your friends are dumb, OP - that’s because he’s aware that they’re smart enough to see straight through him.

wheresmyshoe · 03/10/2023 13:47

He sounds like a twat.

Wallywobbles · 03/10/2023 13:47

He's trash. Well brought up people treat the lowest and the highest of people well.

To be honest he's no where as clever as he and you think he is.

Iamclearlyamug · 03/10/2023 13:48

Omfg no. Just no.

Please please raise your standards. You're so much better than this

fruitbrewhaha · 03/10/2023 13:48

I think you must know we are unanimously going to tell you he is awful. Just look at what you’ve written. You’d have to be insane to get back on that horse.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 03/10/2023 13:49

He sounds truly awful. Please raise your bar.

Razzle39 · 03/10/2023 13:49

Yet another post from a woman who thinks they deserve to be treated like shit. Seriously what is going on in the world that you think that this is anyway ok, that you would even think about getting back with him.

What would you say to a friend who wrote the above post?

Moohana86 · 03/10/2023 13:49

This is why I’ve posted on here because I’ve not felt sure about him based on what I posted. But I needed to have advice from people who don’t know me. Outsiders looking in.
He works very hard. He takes good care of his mother who is widowed. He provides above and beyond for his son. He coaches boys rugby voluntarily. He keeps fit and healthy. He can have a great sense of humor. Very domesticated and never expected me to cook and clean for him. Can be very affectionate and caring - unless it’s an act. But then has the bad points I’ve stated which outweighed the good and made me break it off

OP posts:
Bigminnie1 · 03/10/2023 13:49

Moohana86 · 03/10/2023 13:37

I’m not willing to give up my friends and family at all. Never said that. I said I’ve been on the fence with giving him another try but my friends are totally anti. Just getting opinions from posters here to see if they would take same stance as my friends.

This man sounds absolutely vile and I totally agree with your friends. I can't believe you are even contemplating getting back together with him.

VeridicalVagabond · 03/10/2023 13:51

Don't be a prat op, he sounds like an absolute tool. You'd be better off single forever than stuck in a relationship with this prick.

Namechange666 · 03/10/2023 13:51

You've met people before to have relationships with and you will again.

Being alone is 100% better than being with that trash can. He sounds horrendous.

Please listen to your family and friends. They care about your well being. Don't do it op. You split for a reason and he's still saying he doesn't like them Etc. He hasn't changed one iota!

Lottapianos · 03/10/2023 13:52

'But then has the bad points I’ve stated which outweighed the good and made me break it'

Absolutely. All of those 'good points' are just basic decent human being stuff. They don't make him Prince Charming or win him any gold stars, and they do nothing to balance out your list of truly awful behaviours

Tinkerbyebye · 03/10/2023 13:52

for goodness sake. Red flags all over. Re read your post and pretend it’s happened to one of your friends, what would you advice be

hes a controlling twat, tell him no, and block him