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Husband hates our baby

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MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 13:53

We have a 3 year old daughter who is an absolute angel. Of course, she is 3 so still fucking hard but over all she's happy, is not remotely worried about ever leaving us, she is cuddly and now sleeps very well.

When she was a newborn it was HARD. I got pre natal and subsequently post natal depression. My husband was lazy and mostly unhelpful. I had a c section so struggled after with recovery and did too much too soon. Since then his mum had major surgery, which she visibly struggled with and that made him realise how much I did and just dealt with..... he was very apologetic and said he would be different next time.

We have spoke about a second child often. At one point he was all for it, when we get 30 hours free. Then he went totally off the idea. Then was up for it again. I fell pregnant, unplanned, this year and he instantly said to abort. I asked if we could just discuss once our daughter was in bed. There was an awkward silence so I wrote out pros and cons for right now, all quite true to myself and brutally honest. He said "lets have it". Then he was off with me for days. Then spoke about it again, said he felt I didn't listen to him (despite me thinking it's actually me who's feelings aren't being considered). Got emotional, he changed his tune.

This has been a constant cycle until a few weeks ago, when our daughter had a cough and was very upset and not easy to calm (about 9/10pm) and he was very off with me for days. I said what is it. He said I just had a flashback of telling you I didn't want to do this again and you've done it anyway... I said I am not taking "blame" for this anymore, this took two of us, It was a genuine "accident" (for want of a better word!!!). He was so off with me for days and I mean not talking at all, not eating, not sharing the bed. Awful. I was also in bits, angry, hurt, upset.

We spoke again and he repeated his concerns and things felt lighter. Then the next day back to the same attitude when I was told "doesn't mean it's all gone away you need to not talk about the baby. I need time".

Now.. I'm 23 weeks pregnant, quite uncomfortable, taking care of a 3year old basically on my own, feeling these little kicks...and I'm not allowed to express joy (or anything) for this child/pregnancy. Knowing how hard the first time was for me, it fucking hurts.

The other night I packed my bags and said unfortunatley we don't get the luxury of "space" and "time" because we have a CHILD who needs us HERE RIGHT NOW who doesn't understand. he said he needs time to accept that this is happening as he doesn't want to be an absent father but needs time.

We have known since 3 weeks btw... it's not some sudden shock now. All of this is killing me and making me so angry. I don't know how I can forgive him. I feel like he is being so disgustingly selfish. I am totally okay with him having feelings differing from my own but if he had spoke to me about it like a normal person instead of just spouting about abortion instantly..... who knows!!!I don't want my kids to grow up in a broken home but I don't want them having a shitty dad like I did. All or nothing!

I would be grateful for any advice!!!!

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MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:40

Dacadactyl · 18/09/2023 16:26

Your husband is unbelievable.

My now DH was a 23 yo student and we'd been together just 5 months when I got pregnant. He didn't act like your DH is doing now.

Sorry you are going through this.

Similar situation to you when we had our first- when he was excited and nice about most of it.

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MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:41

Fuckitydoodah · 18/09/2023 16:26

Wow. He sounds like an utter c**t.

He's basically trying to guilt trip you so that you'll end up doing everything, because after all 'it was you that went ahead with having another baby, not his decision'. There's also some serious gas lighting going on.

I know it's never easy, but I think this is a clear case of LTB.

I've been accused of gaslighting too. I'm at the point where I sort of can't remember a lot of what was said so I fumble my words when I'm trying to defend myself

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MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:45

saythatagaintome · 18/09/2023 16:29

Op how on EARTH can you tolerate this????? The stress of being with someone like that, under normal circumstances let alone whilst pregnant, would honestly depress the life out of me.

look after your well-being! All this flip flopping from a partner, holy sh*t. What a major turnoff.

He was treated so badly in the past, his family are amazing and I just feel terrible even thinking of leaving him. Like incredibly guilty

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Somanycats · 18/09/2023 16:47

I don't get why you are surprised. He told you from the start he didn't want the baby. When people tell you stuff, believe them first time! He still doesn't want the baby. You're going to separate because of this aren't you realistically? Then at least you both get a bit of what you want. He gets no day to day responsibility for the baby and you get a baby. Of course it's not the milkman's baby but no one has to step up and be a parent. They just don't. Which is a good thing as the last thing a child needs is a resentful parent. That way lies even more child abuse and neglect than we already have. Let him go on his way op.

LookingForPurpose · 18/09/2023 16:47

I till agree with what @whatchulookinatwillis says, you need to take your power back. No half hearted gestures. If you want him to see that you and your children aren't just an option, you need to make him WANT to be part of your lives. And you do that by getting rid of him, very strict communication policy etc, not just texting for any old thing. He goes to his mums and you drop his daughter off at X and x time. That's it. Act as breezy as you can, almost dismissive of him. Because you need to show him you don't need his bull shit games. It will probably take 2-7 weeks. Do not let him talk you into it earlier. He needs to show you he's steering up without you micromanaging his edits etc. if he doesn't? Walk away .

MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:47

Crazydoglady1980 · 18/09/2023 16:30

You need to leave as he will keep throwing things back at you. When you’re tired and need a rest it’ll be ‘I told you not to have another one’ when one is unwell or you are unwell it’ll be the same.
He may have mental health issues and trauma but where does the excuses stop? When he is choosing to only parent one child? When your children are copying his behaviour? When they are the ones experiencing the same behaviour from him and think this is how Dads/partners act?

I know you're right, I do. I think I just like to believe in people 🥺

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Maplestars · 18/09/2023 16:49

What a waste of space, im embarrassed for him

‘you’ve done it again’
was he not there during the conception then no?

you’re 23 weeks. It’s done now. He needs to get a grip, shut up, be a supportive husband,
he didn’t even do anything first time round, so how hard can it be for him, he’ll just carry on being a selfish, lazy, manchild like now, no different.

Add in that he’s sulking for days as well? So so embarrassed for him

Panaa · 18/09/2023 16:50

He came in and just said he didn’t want to split and that’s why he’s ‘shutting off’ from me because he loves me but is struggling to see a family of 4…

He doesn't seem to see you as a family of 3 either, it's just him and you (and your 3 year old).

He was treated so badly in the past, his family are amazing and I just feel terrible even thinking of leaving him. Like incredibly guilty

You are going to have to find a way to detach. I've been there.... staying stuck out of guilt and concern for my ex so trust me I get it. But it's not just your own happiness you're sacrificing, it's your kids happiness too. He's a shit dad. You can't make him be a better one. He can only do that himself.

And he doesn't get to have you but not his own kids.

MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:52

Somanycats · 18/09/2023 16:47

I don't get why you are surprised. He told you from the start he didn't want the baby. When people tell you stuff, believe them first time! He still doesn't want the baby. You're going to separate because of this aren't you realistically? Then at least you both get a bit of what you want. He gets no day to day responsibility for the baby and you get a baby. Of course it's not the milkman's baby but no one has to step up and be a parent. They just don't. Which is a good thing as the last thing a child needs is a resentful parent. That way lies even more child abuse and neglect than we already have. Let him go on his way op.

Because he changed his mind so many times? Why would I take that he doesn't want another child but not listen to when he says he does? I heard him out every single time, if someone's thoughts are fleeting what am I meant to do? Abort the baby then magic it back to life? Only to have the same shit again?

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MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:53

LookingForPurpose · 18/09/2023 16:47

I till agree with what @whatchulookinatwillis says, you need to take your power back. No half hearted gestures. If you want him to see that you and your children aren't just an option, you need to make him WANT to be part of your lives. And you do that by getting rid of him, very strict communication policy etc, not just texting for any old thing. He goes to his mums and you drop his daughter off at X and x time. That's it. Act as breezy as you can, almost dismissive of him. Because you need to show him you don't need his bull shit games. It will probably take 2-7 weeks. Do not let him talk you into it earlier. He needs to show you he's steering up without you micromanaging his edits etc. if he doesn't? Walk away .

How do I even do this?? What if his mum don't want him Grin

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Maplestars · 18/09/2023 16:53

He was treated so badly in the past, his family are amazing and I just feel terrible even thinking of leaving him. Like incredibly guilty
was he yeah?
or is it possible he contributed to it like he’s contributing to this?

why he’s acting like you got yourself pregnant and you’re acting like if you leave him it’s your responsibility even after he’s been foul to you, I have no idea
he’s also not been responsible for much childcare so far.
i guess awful things just happen to him and non of them are in any way related to his behaviour.

MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:54

Panaa · 18/09/2023 16:50

He came in and just said he didn’t want to split and that’s why he’s ‘shutting off’ from me because he loves me but is struggling to see a family of 4…

He doesn't seem to see you as a family of 3 either, it's just him and you (and your 3 year old).

He was treated so badly in the past, his family are amazing and I just feel terrible even thinking of leaving him. Like incredibly guilty

You are going to have to find a way to detach. I've been there.... staying stuck out of guilt and concern for my ex so trust me I get it. But it's not just your own happiness you're sacrificing, it's your kids happiness too. He's a shit dad. You can't make him be a better one. He can only do that himself.

And he doesn't get to have you but not his own kids.

God I know you are right!!!!!

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MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:55

Maplestars · 18/09/2023 16:53

He was treated so badly in the past, his family are amazing and I just feel terrible even thinking of leaving him. Like incredibly guilty
was he yeah?
or is it possible he contributed to it like he’s contributing to this?

why he’s acting like you got yourself pregnant and you’re acting like if you leave him it’s your responsibility even after he’s been foul to you, I have no idea
he’s also not been responsible for much childcare so far.
i guess awful things just happen to him and non of them are in any way related to his behaviour.

Hard truths here.

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Venturini · 18/09/2023 16:55

its not because of the baby. It’s because he’s an abusive piece of shit. The worst thing you could do for your kids is stay with him. Any emotional fall out or repercussions from the separation and divorce on them will pale in comparison to what they will have to deal with if you stay in this marriage. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

cestlavielife · 18/09/2023 16:59

He can choose to take responsibility and go talk to someone about his "conflicted feelings"
But maybe better he just leaves and you get on with it find other support

WowOK · 18/09/2023 16:59

He was a shit partner and father.
He is a shit partner and father.
He will continue to be a shit partner and father.
You need to leave him.
You need to prioritise your health and the health of your baby.
You need to focus on improving your MH. You already had pre and post natal depression in the first pregnancy. His behaviour isn't helping and is increasing your risk of being unwell because he's putting you under unnecessary stress and emotional distress.
In all honesty I think it's better to be alone and to know your alone rather than putting up with a fuck wit that does nothing but add to your physical, emotional and mental load.

Get rid @MoodyMum94. The baby isn't the problem. He was a wanker before this pregnancy and will be one infinitely.

GoryBory · 18/09/2023 17:02

and he was very off with me for days.

How many times have you said this in your OP?!

Being ‘off with you for days’ as you’re not doing exactly what he wants is abusive!

Catsafterme · 18/09/2023 17:03

MoodyMum94 · 18/09/2023 16:25

He has said that he 'just needs to man up' and I agree.... get on with it. As if I'm not terrified of this myself!

Yeah, I can imagine. Can he actually do it though or is it all words... wouldn't treat partner that way either.

Makes me mad all these fuckwit dads, I stepped up all the way and mine are now being withheld, I'd do anything to see them. Don't know lucky they are.

Malificent1 · 18/09/2023 17:05

So you both willingly had sex and you fell pregnant. And now he is punishing you for refusing to have an abortion.

That’s what it all boils down to OP. None of this “he needs time” crap. He told you what to do with your body, and you quite rightly refused. And now you’re being punished.

Silent treatment, hot and cold moods, refusing to sleep in the bed with you. They’re all classic punishments doled out by controlling men, and you’re currently letting him get away with it. This won’t get better once the baby is born. I’m really sorry but you should be making plans to get you and your children far away from him.

Adelaff · 18/09/2023 17:08

I like to think that I wouldn't accept this dithering, childish behaviour. He needs to get his act together, or you need to separate. A full and frank conversation needs to be had - one where you tell him you wont put up with any more sulky silent treatment, where he parents your 3 year old, and where he gets onboard with baby 2, because he/she is coming whether he likes it/is ready or not. If he can't get on board then he needs to leave because you haven't capacity to parent a man-child as well

LuluBlakey1 · 18/09/2023 17:12

(Sorry. No idea how I have managed to underline everything)

He might not want another baby but his wife is pregnant and it's his baby and unless he is going to break his marriage and family up, he needs to behave like a decent human being, a responsible parent, a good husband and get a fucking grip of himself.
He is behaving pathetically and making your life even more difficult. It is unforgivable.
Personally, I would make him leave and take control of the situation. He is not putting you and his children first.

Purplewarrior · 18/09/2023 17:13

This man is abusive and you are just enabling him.

Do you own or rent? Do you have anywhere to go with the DC if he refuses to leave?

StopStartStop · 18/09/2023 17:14

Here is my advice - leave him. He's a nasty bastard.
Take your unborn and your lovely three-year-old and get the fuck out.
Write down every nasty thing he's said about the baby, because that pos should not be having unsupervised access.

Sueretiredawhileago · 18/09/2023 17:17

What a disgusting man. A home would be far more broken with him in it.

Yalta · 18/09/2023 17:18

Easier said than done. Money is a huge factor sadly. I do work, but can't work anymore hours. Plus mat leave pending.... I couldn't afford the house on my own

But you wouldn’t be just paying from your own salary

You would have maintenance from him and maybe entitled to benefits as well or you could go your separate ways and sell the house and divide all the marital assets, in court. With 2 children especially if he doesn’t want to have anything to do with the 2nd then there is a chance you might get more than 50%

You need to look after yourself and your little girl and your unborn baby. You are already a split family and if you let it linger you will be a split family with broken family members all living under the same roof

As a friend once said, it is hard being a single mum. It is even harder being a single mum when you are still married and living together

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