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Lack of Intimacy is Killing Me

169 replies

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 08:02

I’m a 49 year old woman, turning 50 soon. My partner of nearly 2 years is almost 64. He looks good, in great shape. We are compatible in many areas with similar interests, views, lifestyles. He’s a good conversationalist. Knows what he wants in life and very practical.
We fell in love surprisingly quick and had both been single a while.
My issue is that for a while he’s been less affectionate both in words and physically. He used to kiss and hug me often, sit holding hands, lots of caresses. His words were loving and caring and had pet names for me. He loved to cuddle in bed and enjoyed sexual intimacy.
Then he started changing and became increasingly distant physically in the bedroom and just generally. Even the way he speaks to me changed and he has become distant. I feel very rejected and it’s like I’m in a purely platonic relationship and I’m dying inside because I need and miss that physical closeness. I have spoken to him often about this and asked what is wrong and if I have done anything wrong. I even asked if he has someone else he’s seeing on the side because why does a man suddenly lose interest. When I raise the subject he dismisses it and even gets annoyed. He claims he loves me and wants me in his life, yet it’s at the stage mostly where I feel like his roommate. It’s not just about lack of sex which only happens occasionally when he desires, but all the other signs of affection and loving words are almost extinct.
Maybe I’m being too sensitive but I don’t want to carry on feeling this kind of rejection and not knowing if the spark is going to come back his side.
Do I hang in there or give up?

OP posts:
Newestname002 · 06/08/2023 08:39

@Angela1973

His opinion is that if sex is such a big deal then leave.

That's hurtful and uncaring. What is your position regarding accommodation and finances if you did decide to leave? 🌹

ErmWhatever · 06/08/2023 08:39

Give up. It wont get better. And if it does, things will go right back to where they were. Dont prolong the inevitable.

AllSoComplicated · 06/08/2023 08:41

This will be hard to do, but don't stay hoping it'll go back to where it was. He's stopped trying because he's got what he wants. This, I'm afraid, is likely to be the real him.

If he's using anger to shut down conversation and says awful comments like the drooling one, this is giving me red flags for emotional abuse.

Know your worth. I'm your age. I've had an abusive relationship. I would rather be alone than tying myself in knots ever again. You can't save it because he is not going to try. He's ok with your unhappiness. That's not a man worthy of you.

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 08:41

As to sex, when it does happen he’s only out for his satisfaction. He can be loving and affectionate but it’s so intermittent. I feel his attention towards me is 1/4 what it used to be. He’s more snappy than loving

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Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 08:42

I hear you about being tied in knots. I often feel this way because I’m trying to figure out where I’ve gone wrong and what I can do to win back his attention and affections

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RuthTopp · 06/08/2023 08:43

Also from you further posts , you are living in his place ?
I'm guessing you are cooking , cleaning , keeping everything going = housewife work ?
If yes , then maybe his plan was to lovebomb you to get you where he wanted , so he can go back to spending time wanking over porn all whilst he has a live in housekeeper doing his bidding.
What's in it for you ?
Tell him your moving out but want to continue the relationship , I m betting 100% your be surplus to requirements.

ErmWhatever · 06/08/2023 08:45

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 08:42

I hear you about being tied in knots. I often feel this way because I’m trying to figure out where I’ve gone wrong and what I can do to win back his attention and affections

You will kill whatever self esteem you have left doing this. You shouldn't have to jump through hoops for affection

AllSoComplicated · 06/08/2023 08:47

@Angela1973 sweetheart, you CAN'T fix it by yourself. I was stuck in an abusive relationship for years trying to get back to the happy place. Don't let this be your life at our age. Flowers

Your man is not unhappy with YOU being unhappy. Think about that.

Leave him. Have friends, a dog, hobbies, a full life.....maybe another man will come along....but the road with this one is sad and may be worse. It'll take your self esteem.

arethereanyleftatall · 06/08/2023 08:49

I honestly have absolutely no idea why you wouldn't just move on.

Relationships can run their course - and that's fine.

That's literally the beauty of relationships once you're older - no ties really -and you can both just move on once the relationship no longer makes you happy.

Prettyvase · 06/08/2023 08:52

Always go back and stay in girlfriend mode!! Especially with a big age difference!!

Girlfriends don't do any of the domestic crap but get wined, dined and given the princess treatment.

As soon as you get in the stage of washing his underpants, you change status in his eyes and become taken for granted.

You have become cook and cleaner and then companion and then the older he becomes you become his carer, nurse and housekeeper.

If you don't like the category he sees you in stop doing his laundry, cleaning and cooking and go back to girlfriend mode !!!!

And if it doesn't work out and he can't see you as anything other than doormat wifeykins, then with any new man, don't make the same mistake again and make sure you stay firmly in girlfriend mode.

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 08:55

I help in the house cleaning and cooking but he does do his 50%. It’s his house, I pay my way. He will retire in a couple of years. He can afford to.

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NeverMrsAgain · 06/08/2023 08:55

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 08:42

I hear you about being tied in knots. I often feel this way because I’m trying to figure out where I’ve gone wrong and what I can do to win back his attention and affections

I’m starting to get suspicious about this thread..

OP, giving you the benefit of the doubt, you are 50, you should not still be thinking like this. You are not a 15 year old raised on sexist bollocks ‘romantic’ literature of the 1980s anymore.

You should know that you cannot win him back and any man who puts you in a position of trying to do that, is not a man worth having.

You have 5 decades of life experience. You know this OP.

Treacletreacle · 06/08/2023 08:57

He love bombed you in the beginning. Gave you false hope of what it would be like. That was the act, what you have now is the real him. Sadly he won't go back to that act, why would he? For him he is happy with how it now is. And like others have said, you have told him how your feeling and he doesn't care. Time to think of you and move on from this selfish man. I bet his behaved his whole life like this. He thinks you should he happy with the tiny flakes of affection he throws at you. I bet when you are intimate it's all about his pleasure. I bet you are the one keeping his house in order as well. His got you right how he wants you. Time to make a stand and make it all about you.

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 09:00

It’s hard to make a decision to go when you love someone. I’m just not sure he feels the same way even though he says he does.

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Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 09:03

I just admitted I might seem silly posting in here being 50 but I’m genuinely after opinions. Due to the age gap it’s crossed my mind that maybe his behaviour is normal even though it upsets me

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Kpcs · 06/08/2023 09:03

I would have a big problem with daily porn use and no sex. Your priorities are different, I think you should leave. He sounds disrespectful and uninterested in fulfilling your needs. Find someone who wants you to be happy and fulfilled. Perhaps he was love bombing at the beginning to get you on board.

omgsally · 06/08/2023 09:06

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 09:00

It’s hard to make a decision to go when you love someone. I’m just not sure he feels the same way even though he says he does.

You really REALLY need to stop this way of thinking. The pp who said it will destroy your self esteem are right. Be very careful about mooning around, begging this man to care for you. You will end up a wreck of a woman. You need to read a ton of stuff about emotional abuse and stop romantisising his behaviour. Get out now. Work on your boundaries and leave him.

Mummy08m · 06/08/2023 09:08

You're only 50, that's one year out of your 40s... why be with an old man? He's not just old, he's a porn addict... he sounds really gross tbh.

Prettyvase · 06/08/2023 09:09

There it is in a nutshell, your biggest mistake was moving in with him.

Him get you to that stage was him reeling you in by grooming you to become his housekeeper and carer!

All the lovely dovey stuff was a fake act.

Now he has got you doing the unpaid wifey work you are getting the real him.

Tusktusk · 06/08/2023 09:14

There are two things from your posts that majorly worry me OP.

Firstly, as many have pointed out, he does not care that you are unhappy. This is clear. If he told you he was unhappy in some way I bet you’d be bending over backwards to make it better for him. He does not love you.

Secondly, that you think it is your fault, that you have done something wrong and you can change it. It is not you. It is him.

For what it’s worth, I am your age and my partner is your partner’s age. The only thing that sounded similar with me here is that his sex drive is slightly lower than mine. Even so it’s an acceptable amount. And as you say, I can live with a bit less sex if the intimacy is there in the little daily interactions. He still wants to please me. He still holds my hand when we are watching TV. He still gives me cuddles, unasked.

And perhaps most importantly, if I was unhappy, he would listen to me and if he could fix it, he would.

OP, leaving is hard but sometimes necessary. This man does not seem to love you (how can he when he cares so little for your happiness?) and it is NOT YOUR FAULT. The fact that he is a porn user is quite telling.

I know it’s hard to hear but you really are better alone than living like this. You need to show yourself some respect and love.

Needanewnamebeingwatched · 06/08/2023 09:16

Why shouldn't you want and have love at 50?

I've just married again at 52 and my DH treats me like a queen, always saying how much he loves me and how beautiful I am etc

Sex is the best it's ever been, we are a team and split everything 50/50

You might have another 50years yet so find someone who loves you like your the most precious thing to him.

loislovesstewie · 06/08/2023 09:19

Firstly there are lots of 64 year olds who are still having lots of sex,I can certainly vouch for that.
I don't actually think that is your real problem; I think it's that he is no longer being affectionate, that he is indifferent to you and that he just doesn't seem to care if you are happy or not. You have said when you do have sex it's all about him and that sums it up. Generally he is selfish, he's got what he wants but doesn't care about what you want.Sorry, but I would be leaving.
FWIW, there are plenty of men who are kind and loving; there are plenty of men who are the opposite, it's nothing to do with age.It's what their personality is like. He's probably always been the same.

Alcemeg · 06/08/2023 09:19

"More snappy than loving" doesn't sound like much fun. The relationship dynamics sound very unhealthy.
And it's still early days, so this spiral into gloom is likely to take you down further over time.
I'd cut your losses and draw a line under this one. He sounds rather cruel and cold. Go and find some warmth!

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 09:21

It is the daily things that count, being shown you’re loved and appreciated. Being listened to when you’re worried about something is definitely necessary too.
His opinion is he’s opened up his lovely home to share with me which he wouldn’t do if he didn’t want me, he doesn’t cheat on me and not violent nor does he abuse alcohol or drugs so why can’t I be happy with that instead of focusing so much on his lack of intimacy

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arethereanyleftatall · 06/08/2023 09:21

Angela1973 · 06/08/2023 09:00

It’s hard to make a decision to go when you love someone. I’m just not sure he feels the same way even though he says he does.

Stay then. Be miserable. Your choice.

You're not in love with him 'now'. You're in love with your memories of who he was, and your fantasies of him.

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