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I had DH arrested yesterday

280 replies

Neverimagined · 03/08/2023 23:41

I'm just in utter shock. I was too ill to get out of bed, he was demanding I get up and look after the children. I begged him to let me rest and he threw a glass of water over me then dragged me out of bed and down the stairs. In front of my DD9 who was screaming at him to get off me.

I'm just in shock. I was starting to open my eyes and realise that some of his behaviour was controlling/coercive/gaslighting, but I never thought he'd be violent. Especially in front of the kids. He hasn't shown any remorse. Everything is always my fault because I'm crazy/unstable/hormonal according to him and he's been messaging my family trying to convince them as much.

I'm heartbroken. Running on adrenaline I think because I can't sleep or eat. I need to figure out the next steps in terms of the practicalities of divorce and the children but I can't think straight because I have 2 under 2 to look after. I'm on maternity leave at the moment so have no income of my own. I can't believe he's done this to us, to our family.

OP posts:
roses321 · 04/08/2023 13:01

Just to also add that I genuinely thought I had BPD/narcissism or some other massively awful cluster b personality disorder when I was with him because he persuaded me that I did.

We did couples counselling and the counsellor suggested I had CPTSD and he latched onto that and basically tried to force me to get help for it. When I left I had serious symptoms including anxiety, stomach upsets, my health was downhill, mental health was on the floor, stomach pain, pain in my joints and all sorts of other things. I was also reclusive and didn't want to go out and had social anxiety and was almost "not there" talking to people.

Now that i've been out for a few months i'm a different person, the pain has gone away physically and I am just so much clearer. I couldnt' stop ruminating and blaming myself and obsessively trying to diagnose myself with disorders for weeks after I left, I cried because I thought I was beyond help.

There was nothing wrong with me that wasn't present in most of the population to be honest - i wasn't seriously ill at all, I was in a coercive relationship and he gaslit me so effectively that I believed it. You don't think it can happen to you but seriously it can and you don't even believe it.

You can do this, you will be ok now. I promise you will be ok but please don't expect it to be easy straight away, it will take a long time but I promise that you will feel so differently a year from now. x

CornishGem1975 · 04/08/2023 13:01

I have no advice or words of wisdom but well done OP, it takes strength to do what you did and domestic abusers thrive off being the 'strong' one and making you feel like you don't have any strength or power at all. You've got this.

Treaclemine · 04/08/2023 14:12

One poster suggested changing the locks. Do it at once, because there's no guarantee he won't breach the bail conditions. And add a mortice lock and bolts on any door from outside. Then find window locks and alarms. There must be no way he could get in. He'll claim he needs access to documents for example to justify breaking the conditions.
It may seem a bit paranoid to think this, but it's as if a woman who was murdered here a few years back is at the window telling me this. (No, I don't think it's a ghost, but a bit of my brain running through your story and thinking of his options.)

Hotflushesinthesunfun · 04/08/2023 15:22

Please get advice before changing locks. It may be different because if his bail but it can be illegal if he owns the home too.

roses321 · 04/08/2023 15:28

Hotflushesinthesunfun · 04/08/2023 15:22

Please get advice before changing locks. It may be different because if his bail but it can be illegal if he owns the home too.

This. But essentially he can legally break in and enter provided he's not causing a nuisance. Get legal advice stat.

hopelessmum1 · 04/08/2023 17:18

roses321 · 04/08/2023 15:28

This. But essentially he can legally break in and enter provided he's not causing a nuisance. Get legal advice stat.

Poster is protecting her children, two of which are under two so I think changing the locks would be seen as acceptable

roses321 · 04/08/2023 18:42

hopelessmum1 · 04/08/2023 17:18

Poster is protecting her children, two of which are under two so I think changing the locks would be seen as acceptable

I've got no doubt you are right but legal advice is a must in this situation because legally he can break in if he's a joint owner. What you think isn't really relevant in the situation despite the fact most would agree with you.

Flittingaboutagain · 04/08/2023 19:41

roses321 · 04/08/2023 15:28

This. But essentially he can legally break in and enter provided he's not causing a nuisance. Get legal advice stat.

Even if it's to enter the victim's property?

Eteiene · 04/08/2023 20:16

Just wanted to echo what others have said about how brave you have been (even though I'm sure it may not always feel it right now..) . I'm at a stage where I need to seriously consider leaving ... it's erupted into much less physical violence than for you .. but echo everyone that legal advice and womens aid can be very helpful.
And hang onto the power and courage it took you in calling the police- kudos to you.

Qwaszx · 04/08/2023 21:17

You're very brave. Well done.

I don't know what advice Women's Aid will give, but can I suggest you get practical pdq, and separate your finances. My ex ran up a 1k overdraft as I wasn't quick enough to freeze all the joint accounts. Being a joint account I was liable for half. Tell the bank there's a marital dispute and they prevent this happening.

If you both own your home, you are both legally allowed to change the locks. You could change them today, he has the right to change them tomorrow. A chair back under the handle might be a cheaper option for now.

Phone tax credits, universal credits, child benefit, whatever it is these days. Make sure any incoming to you is in your sole account.

I wish you well. You've taken a massive step into a better future.

Neverimagined · 04/08/2023 21:51

Sorry for the delay in updating, I barely slept again last night and can't eat because of the abscess, so I've been running on fumes looking after my two little ones whilst trying to get my head around what practicalities to start with - and also get a minutes peace to actually do them.

I'd just like to thank you all so much for your support, advice and wisdom. I'm so so so glad I posted. I've read and taken on board every single post and they have lifted me up and made more difference than you all could ever know. Thank you.

@BertieBotts your post in particular was especially helpful and I'll keep coming back to it. I've tried a few times today to get through to Women's Aid but the queues are long, so thank you also to the poster who suggested going to my GP, I'm going to do that on Monday. I'll also speak to them about some counselling for my DD because I'm so worried about how this might have affected her.

I have plenty of friends and family who have all rallied round, so I have lots of support and I've told everyone who's been in touch with me over the last few days exactly what has happened. I'm not hiding it from anyone, as I know that it's not me who should be ashamed. Tonight is my first night without someone staying with me though, I'm 99.9% sure he's 100 miles away with his family so I'm not scared for our safety but I have started to feel a bit sad and lonely and missing the 'nice' him. I'm not letting myself wallow and grieve though until all of the practicalities are sorted and I know my babies are safe.

To whoever asked, DD isn't his, and to be honest part of the concerns I already had about him were around the way in which he treated her. He was always so critical of everything she did and so quick to punish her for the slightest thing, when actually she's an amazing kid and the most wonderful big sister to her baby brothers. I was starting to see how his treatment was affecting her, and after a couple of recent incidents I had already made up my mind to start getting my ducks in a row in case things didn't improve.

Her dad and I split when she was a toddler, he wasn't abusive, just your garden variety useless manchild. We've had our fair share of arguments over the years but we're amicable now and co-parent together relatively peacefully. His family are wonderful too and she's actually away with his mum this week, which is a godsend as she knows what's happened and is doing a brilliant job of keeping her happy and distracted. I'm hoping that by the time she comes home things will have settled down.

I've been on Mumsnet for years, so I know the script and I'm well prepared for the various tactics he's going to use. He's already messaged my brother to apologise and take back his (6 page) rant about how I'm so crazy I essentially drove him to it. I'm horrified that he attacked me, but in a way I'm also glad because the scales have well and truly fallen from my eyes and now I'm not trying to make sense of his behaviour from the perspective of 'this is my husband who loves me', I can truly see his behaviour for exactly what it is.

I desperately want to write down past incidents but I'm so busy with the boys, they really don't give me a minute. It's DS's 2nd birthday tomorrow and I'm so overwhelmed by it all that I'm on the verge of burning out, so I've decided to spend this evening watching crap TV and we're going to have a nice normal family day out tomorrow and just try not to think about it all for a day. On Monday I'm going to try and get some childcare in place for smallest DS (the bigger one already goes to nursery 3 days a week), just to give me a bit of breathing space and a chance to get the wheels in motion and take steps to organise things like an injunction and a child arrangement order.

As far as money is concerned, I've already changed all of my passwords (he had access to all of my bank accounts and email addresses) and transferred myself half of our joint money. Thankfully it's the beginning of the month so all the bills are paid, so all I need to worry about is food and things for the kids. Applying for universal credit and speaking to work about coming back early are on my to do list, but my first priority is making sure my babies are safe.

The one thing that's bothering me is that I can't find our passports. We went on holiday recently so there's a chance they've just been put away somewhere I haven't thought of, but I'm a little bit paranoid because DH isn't English and he has family abroad. The fact that all 5 are missing is reassuring me, because surely he would only have taken his and the boys' if he was planning to abscond with them? He was also arrested empty handed and hasn't been back to collect any belongings, but still. I need to find them.

OP posts:
Neverimagined · 04/08/2023 21:59

I think the saddest thing of all is that if I hadn't been quite so ill, I would have just got up and done as he'd said to keep the peace and stop him from having a go at me in front of DD. I was so confused to wake up to him angry at me when I had no idea what I'd done wrong, and I'm so used to doing what he wants to try to keep him happy and being nice. It's mind blowing how you can be in that situation and not even realise it.

OP posts:
HappyintheHills · 04/08/2023 22:16

You could let the police know about the passports- they may choose to block their use for a while

cinzanoandcoke · 04/08/2023 22:34

OP, I'm so sorry you're going through this, and im glad you have real life support, but please do continue to rally round this community for support. Tell the police about passports - better safe than sorry. Hope GP is helpful.

Stillanothernamechange · 04/08/2023 22:37

OP, you’re such an inspiration (I mean you’re being so strong, it might not feel like it right now but really - you are). Re passports: if you’re not going anywhere for the foreseeable could you just report them as lost and apply for new ones?

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 04/08/2023 22:39

Stillanothernamechange · 04/08/2023 22:37

OP, you’re such an inspiration (I mean you’re being so strong, it might not feel like it right now but really - you are). Re passports: if you’re not going anywhere for the foreseeable could you just report them as lost and apply for new ones?

That's probably a very good idea.

And second that, you are an inspiration. You are doing snazingly, and setting a great example for your kids, too.

Happy Birthday for your DS. :)

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 04/08/2023 22:40

*amazingly !!

Rabbitsandgerbils · 04/08/2023 22:58

Hope you can get some sleep tonight OP and that you can enjoy DS’ 2nd birthday tomorrow even a little bit.

Definitely mention the passport concern to the police.

You may be on your own at home tonight but you have the support of your family, friends and all of us Mumsnetters all across the country so you are not alone.

Power to you brave lady and if you are reading this at night put the phone down now and go to sleep. xx

Neverimagined · 04/08/2023 23:07

Rabbitsandgerbils · 04/08/2023 22:58

Hope you can get some sleep tonight OP and that you can enjoy DS’ 2nd birthday tomorrow even a little bit.

Definitely mention the passport concern to the police.

You may be on your own at home tonight but you have the support of your family, friends and all of us Mumsnetters all across the country so you are not alone.

Power to you brave lady and if you are reading this at night put the phone down now and go to sleep. xx

Thank you for making me smile. The phone is going away now but I'll be coming back to this thread to keep my strength going. You are all amazing and several posts have brought me to tears tonight.

Thank you as well to everyone who has shared their experiences of going through similar. As sorry as I am that there are so many women who have had to deal with this, it really helps to know that there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Right now I feel like my life and future have been ripped away from me and I just can't face the idea of being a single mum to three children. I'm exhausted just thinking about it.

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TheWayoftheLeaf · 05/08/2023 00:00

I'm so sorry OP. You did the right thing.

A man who assaults his wife instead of looking after his own children because she's horribly sick isn't fit to be out around other humans.

He's an animal. A monster.

Nat6999 · 05/08/2023 04:32

Treaclemine · 04/08/2023 14:12

One poster suggested changing the locks. Do it at once, because there's no guarantee he won't breach the bail conditions. And add a mortice lock and bolts on any door from outside. Then find window locks and alarms. There must be no way he could get in. He'll claim he needs access to documents for example to justify breaking the conditions.
It may seem a bit paranoid to think this, but it's as if a woman who was murdered here a few years back is at the window telling me this. (No, I don't think it's a ghost, but a bit of my brain running through your story and thinking of his options.)

You can ask your local council if they run a sanctuary scheme, if they do, they come & address security to your home, I got window alarms, outside lights, security locks & a panic button on my burglar alarm. They can also make you a rescue room which is where they put a steel lined door on one bedroom that can't br broken down so you can lock yourselves in if anyone was to try to brake in.

Fraaahnces · 05/08/2023 04:44

If you can’t find the passports soon, cancel them asap. You don’t want him to have the possibility of taking the kids. (Also he is a potential flight risk due to charges, so I think there is a way of notifying ports so he can’t take them. I’m not from UK so someone else will mention what this is called.) I hope he doesn’t use your kid’s bday as an excuse to kick off.

Tilllly · 05/08/2023 07:41

What a vile, weak excuse for a man

Thank God you're an amazing, strong woman

You've definitely got this 💪🏻
One day at a time

Make notes about everything

Local police will have a crime reduction officer who can come to your home and advise about window locks, security lights and so on. Sometimes they can provide you with some items

rainbowstardrops · 05/08/2023 08:25

Oh I'm so sorry that he's put you and your DD through this but you sound amazingly brave and strong (even if you don't feel it right now).
Happy birthday to your little one today 🎉🥳

Siouxiesiouxiesioux · 05/08/2023 10:09

Nat6999 · 05/08/2023 04:32

You can ask your local council if they run a sanctuary scheme, if they do, they come & address security to your home, I got window alarms, outside lights, security locks & a panic button on my burglar alarm. They can also make you a rescue room which is where they put a steel lined door on one bedroom that can't br broken down so you can lock yourselves in if anyone was to try to brake in.

I have never heard of this scheme. It sounds wonderful. I’m glad they were able to do that for you.