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Married to a Neurotypical - Support Thread Number 1

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Dustyyy · 20/06/2023 22:55

This thread is for partners seeking to understand the dynamics of mixed NT/ND partnerships. It is a support thread, and a safe space to have a bit of a rant. Avoid sweeping generalisations if possible, try and keep it specific to you and your partner. (Neurotypical partners welcome to lurk or pop in, but please don't argue with other posters and tell them they are wrong).

I’ll start. My husband is neurotypical (or if you prefer, person with neurotypicality) and he annoys me with his constant low-level noise and general presence around the house. He doesn’t understand that some of us need peace and quiet and aren’t interested in mundane chit chat. How do other autistic people cope?

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ContractQuestion · 21/06/2023 23:20

FatGirl- yet again such good points. The world of work cant be expected to adjust to NT people really. Think of the cost and the effect on the ND workers!

Craftycorvid · 21/06/2023 23:20

Such a relief to have this thread! I had great hopes of DH as I thought he might be quite high functioning for an NT - logical and usually quite clear in communication. Unfortunately, he does have some challenging NT traits: moving my things being just one (so much that I may never find ever again and he can’t seem to grasp out of sight is out of mind); talking…. Loudly. And getting huffy if I use earplugs. Failing to appreciate the importance of my collections. Sigh! But these pale into insignificance beside not caring about my deep interests. He expects me to answer questions about subjects that interest me in one or two sentences at most. Ought I to LTB? I mean, it’s bad, isn’t it? They don't mean to be abusive, they just lack theory of ND mind.

LameBorzoi · 21/06/2023 23:20

ContractQuestion · 21/06/2023 22:48

Fatgirlswim - gosh that really is a bad case. Have they no shame? Next you'll be telling me they're fine with "eating noises" - what disgusting table manners NT peope have, why can't they eat quietly without scraping.

It's taken me years, but my husband has finally learned not to eat his breakfast next to me. NTs can learn, don't give up!

Amethystanddiamonds · 21/06/2023 23:21

Potentially NT DH is a real problem at the moment. Clear lack of research and planning taking place. He's suggested that we don't obsessively research where we're going on holiday and that we should "just wing it when we get there". Clearly its unacceptable not to know every attraction in the area, which days they are open, 3 available car parks for each one, where to eat and whether acceptable public toilets are available. I'm really not sure how I can cope with this slovenly attitude?

Oh and don't get me started on the mismatched cutlery he used at dinner!

Wellgoodforyou · 21/06/2023 23:24

Babdoc · 21/06/2023 23:17

If you want to help your ND kids understand the weirdo NTs in their class at school, there’s an excellent book called “Why Johnny doesn’t flap - NT is ok!” by Clay and Gail Morton.
It explains how Johnny doesn’t stim, can’t focus on a special interest, can’t manage lengthy monologues, doesn’t separate his foods on his plate, invades your personal
space, etc. It’s a very useful look into the strange world of a child disabled by neorotypicality.

Thank you . I did ask ask for genuine advice from this thread about husband and replies have been so negative!

Dustyyy · 21/06/2023 23:26

Reading so many brilliant messages on this thread makes it clear that people in society really don’t understand neurotypicality. I think we need one-of those Chris Packham style documentaries - “Neurotypical Me” - a fascinating insight into the lives of people without autism. How a non-complex brain with limited neural pathways limits your capacity to lead a meaningful life. That plastic-surgery faced girl from Geordie Shore could present it……<<pauses>>……actually scrap that idea……Love island does the same job.

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MyWishIsMyCommand · 21/06/2023 23:28

@Dustyyy 🤣😂😂🤣

ContractQuestion · 21/06/2023 23:30

Dusty that is perfect. Please don't stop!

Dustyyy · 21/06/2023 23:30

You are all my tribe 😍🤣

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FatGirlSwim · 21/06/2023 23:31

Dustyyy · 21/06/2023 23:30

You are all my tribe 😍🤣

I can’t tell you how happy this thread has made me.

Dustyyy · 21/06/2023 23:34

FatGirlSwim · 21/06/2023 23:31

I can’t tell you how happy this thread has made me.

@FatGirlSwim 🔥🔥🔥

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Allthecheeseplease · 21/06/2023 23:35

This is my favourite thread ever on MN 🤣

MyWishIsMyCommand · 21/06/2023 23:37

@Dustyyy I've never really watched Love Island and shows like that except in passing or a few clips here and there. Your post has made me realise I should be watching them like documentaries for exactly the reason you gave. Thank you for these 'documentaries' recommendation on NT disorder. You've sparked a possible special interest and research study.

Dustyyy · 21/06/2023 23:42

@MyWishIsMyCommand be very careful. Every 10 minutes watching Love Island severs a neural pathway. If you watch a whole series you might become NT (unless you’ve had the MMR, it offers some protection against neurotypicality I believe).

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JeandeServiette · 21/06/2023 23:46

Dustyyy · 21/06/2023 23:26

Reading so many brilliant messages on this thread makes it clear that people in society really don’t understand neurotypicality. I think we need one-of those Chris Packham style documentaries - “Neurotypical Me” - a fascinating insight into the lives of people without autism. How a non-complex brain with limited neural pathways limits your capacity to lead a meaningful life. That plastic-surgery faced girl from Geordie Shore could present it……<<pauses>>……actually scrap that idea……Love island does the same job.

Do we have to learn about them? Can't we just avoid them and slag them off?

FatGirlSwim · 21/06/2023 23:46

My children all had a double dose of the MMR for that very reason. I understand that a massive demand on the immune system can preserve the delicate pathways required for ND thinking.

MyWishIsMyCommand · 21/06/2023 23:46

😱😤 Nope. I don't think I want to catch the NTs. I'll wait for an ND person who is immune to give me a quick breakdown then.

On second thoughts, I never found them interesting when I tried to watch them, which is why I couldn't/stopped. I suppose it would be hard to sit through but for research and NT training purposes, I'll put on a hazmat suit and get the vaccine! <fingers crossed>

FatGirlSwim · 21/06/2023 23:50

JeandeServiette · 21/06/2023 23:46

Do we have to learn about them? Can't we just avoid them and slag them off?

I can understand your frustration, believe me. Living with NT in the family is sometimes soul destroying. But I do think it’s important to be compassionate and understand that they can’t help the way their brains work and it must be awful for them too. It sounds like you’re burnt out from the caring role, maybe some respite would help so that you can feel empathy for them and remember what an incredible job you are doing.

JeandeServiette · 21/06/2023 23:52

Honestly @FatGirlSwim a lot of the time I think they're putting it on just to rile me.

Dustyyy · 21/06/2023 23:53

@JeandeServiette hmmm you do make a strong case. I’m ok with avoidance and some slagging off, interspersed with disdain and a bit of patronising. Remember, it’s not their fault.

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JeandeServiette · 21/06/2023 23:56

Thanks @Dustyyy I'll try some disdain.

Wellgoodforyou · 22/06/2023 00:01

So now I get it…I have been so confused for hours! The first thread that I have actually commented on 🤦‍♀️

OfCourseFailureIsNotABadOptionAtAll · 22/06/2023 00:11

I'm not autistic. I have ADHD. Can I still join? Dh is as NT as they come. I mean he's totally bonkers but in a very efficient and competent way. He's basically the anti-me and it's very difficult. He actually finishes jobs and expects me to do the same. Or to be able to keep socks together when washing. Or to remember every tiny little thing that has ever happened to any creature in the history of this planet. And he excels at doing stuff even if he doesn't love it or doesn't have a gun being held to his head. It's exhausting failing so badly in comparison constantly.

ContractQuestion · 22/06/2023 00:11

It can be confusing partnered with a NT which is why it's so great we have these tools to assess and understand them.

However it doesn't always work, I've been given some hope by posters above that NT can change.

Youreatowel · 22/06/2023 00:37

BeastOfBODMAS · 21/06/2023 20:36

@ContractQuestion of course it’s very early to label them but whenever we take her on the train she just shows a normal amount of excitement, no hand flapping or anything? We’ve tried mainline and a couple of specialist steam interventions.

Have you considered she might prefer a diesel rather than steam engine? Don’t give up on her yet, there is still hope.